PSU never took advantage of the momentum of beating them in 2016. Losing the next 2 games against them that should have been wins, hurt. PSU should have had a 3 game win streak against them..instead they kept getting better and beat PSU 9 straight times, If it wasn’t for the aforementioned Haley play, it would be 14 in a row for OSU….Kind of mind boggling.
Who would have thought after the Haley scoop and score, PSU would lose the next 9 in a row to OSU
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My freshman year at PSU was the beginning of what has become a 33 year nightmare in this God forsaken conference. Since 1993 they have beaten Ohio St all of 8 times, having played them every year. Mercifully they are off the schedule the next 2 seasons.
I remember when Penn State won that game, OSU fans were calling it a "fluke" win. That "fluke" was in what was one of Meyer's arguably worst seasons with OSU, and they still went 11-2 - and made the playoffs (lost to Clemson in the semis).
OSU transitioned very gracefully from Meyer to Day. They didn't skip a beat. Since Meyer took over (2012), OSU has lost 19 games total (including post-season) in 13 years (2012 -2024). That's really incredible. We may not like them, but they are the program to aspire to be. Sadly, it looks like Indiana is going to get closer to OSU-level than Penn State ever will.
OSU transitioned very gracefully from Meyer to Day. They didn't skip a beat. Since Meyer took over (2012), OSU has lost 19 games total (including post-season) in 13 years (2012 -2024). That's really incredible. We may not like them, but they are the program to aspire to be. Sadly, it looks like Indiana is going to get closer to OSU-level than Penn State ever will.
Don’t give up. Kraft took an important step this season. He signaled a desire to act on attempting to be an OSU type of program.
Who knows how the next coach will fare, but going for it is the only way you get there!
That was Urban's worst coached game at OSU. Everybody points to the fire drill confusion prior to the blocked FG. The real issue is that that play should have never happened in the first place. There were about 4 minutes left in the game. During the 4th quarter nursing a 4 point lead OSU was consistently running plays with 25-30 seconds left on the play clock with the game clock also running. To this day I have no idea at all what Urban was thinking.
Just because he signaled something doesn’t mean anything. Remember we were going to be elite.
The following year they changed the kick block rule, some fluke, right. Like the Oregon clock running at the end
of last year's game, change the rule this year. OSU beat us bad yesterday, but they still defend the no targeting
call, they are much the fan base like ND, hard to discuss the reality of the situations.
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Kraft is taking the shot. That’s a good start.
Urban was clearly playing the long game. Let Franklin win, build hope and then set him up to get fired 9 short years later.
The Columbus Dispatch said it was clearly targeting--backed up with different videos.
That may have been the most consequential play in PSU history. If that block isn't run back for a TD, how long does CJF last?
It's all about recruiting and development, although Cignetti's ascension at Indiana is an abberaton. We get good recruits and sometimes great recruits. We develop some of them but not enough, and that's a reflection on coaching. Can't wait to see what hapens at Indiana when they start getting great national recruits, which I think they will. Winning begets winning, and when you consistently get Top 5 recruiting classes like Ohio State and combine it with good coaching, you're going to win. Our coachng staff for the most part has been overblown. Period.
I was listening to Steve Jones and Jack Ham. They both said “no Targetting” was the right call.
I did NOT see the play
It's more about buying the right players now. This is about like the NFL now, need good scouting and be wise with your free agent signing dollars.
Penn State pissed their money away this year, but the NIL provides quick hope to teams with big bucks. Hopefully now they'll have smarter people making these financial decisions with the roster. They sure as hell couldn't be any dumber than this year.
They were really fuming at the no intentional grounding call benefitting Sayin in Q1. Bringing it up multiple times over the next 10 minutes.
I wonder if the league office can revisit it on Monday and suspend the player for the next game's first half
Good point but how do you explain the contract extension on the heels of pathetic 2020 and 2021 seasons? I think he hoodwinked everyone into look I have a great recruiting class coming in for 2022 so we will be great. All that did was prove he can beat teams that he has an overwhelming talent advantage over but never beat a team of equal talent.
By firing CJF when he did, Kraft cemented Franklin’s personal losing streak against OSU at 8 games instead of now 9, thus falling one short of the 9-game losing streak Joe once had against Michigan.
And now the “winless” number of years against OSU will become at least 11 since we don’t play them in 2026/2027. IIRC, that also parallels what happened with UM back in the day… 9 losses were over 11 years because they rotated off our schedule at one point.
Two very painful and disheartening droughts for PSU… and we’re still stuck agonizing and wondering when we might ever see the back of the current one. Ugh.
And now the “winless” number of years against OSU will become at least 11 since we don’t play them in 2026/2027. IIRC, that also parallels what happened with UM back in the day… 9 losses were over 11 years because they rotated off our schedule at one point.
Two very painful and disheartening droughts for PSU… and we’re still stuck agonizing and wondering when we might ever see the back of the current one. Ugh.
Exactly. Right now it is just a painful reminder of the dearth of such plays over the time since.
To be fair, I remember 2003, when Joe's 3-9 season was rewarded with a contract extension, while Nebraska fired Frank Solich after going 9-3. Then again, Paterno had won two NCs and had a number of undefeated seasons over his career, and there may have been extenuating circumstances with Solich. As far as Franklin - he was a great salesman, I'll give him that.
I'm not sure there is an extension without the 2016 win. There is no B1G championship without the win. That conference championship bought some hope.
Also, without the 2020 or 2021 extension, CJF would have had been in his last contract year this year, 2025. After 2024, he would have got an extension probably for more than a $8mm per year average. The buy-out w(c)ould have been higher and the mitigation clause w(c)would have been lowered. That contract may have saved PSU some cash.
He’d have been long gone before 2025 without that extension. Reality is that he probably would have gotten one (not 10 years but maybe) after 22 if he was at PSU in 22 at all.I'm not sure there is an extension without the 2016 win. There is no B1G championship without the win. That conference championship bought some hope.
Also, without the 2020 or 2021 extension, CJF would have had been in his last contract year this year, 2025. After 2024, he would have got an extension probably for more than a $8mm per year average. The buy-out w(c)ould have been higher and the mitigation clause w(c)would have been lowered. That contract may have saved PSU some cash.
He should have been fired after the '21 season.I'm not sure there is an extension without the 2016 win. There is no B1G championship without the win. That conference championship bought some hope.
Also, without the 2020 or 2021 extension, CJF would have had been in his last contract year this year, 2025. After 2024, he would have got an extension probably for more than a $8mm per year average. The buy-out w(c)ould have been higher and the mitigation clause w(c)would have been lowered. That contract may have saved PSU some cash.