Why did the CFP turn everyone into limp-wristed pansies?

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
18,661
15,643
113
Prior to the advent of the CFP, teams ranked outside the top 5ish or so rarely uttered a peep about being left out of the title conversation. It would have been ludicrous to do so. If you were ranked outside the top 3 or 4 teams at the end of the season, you really didn't have an argument and just accepted that you weren't good enough that year. Maybe you finished 3rd and had an argument that you should have been #2. But if you were 5th, 6th, etc, it was too much of a leap to suggest you should be in the top 2. Along comes the CFP and everyone and their brother believes they're a title contender and deserves a shot. I can't remember ever hearing a 10th ranked team (or lower) whining and complaining that they weren't getting a shot to play for the title. The 4-team CFP made sense. There's variability in rankings and a lot of years and some years there's not a great deal of distinction between top 3-4 teams. Now you have teams ranked in the mid-teens b*tching that they aren't getting a shot. It's like the grownups have left the building.

And everyone's grand solution? Expand it even more! People weren't happy with 2 teams. People weren't happy with 4 teams. People aren't happy with 12 teams. So 16 teams is OBVIOUSLY the magic solution. You'll have teams ranked outside the top 25 b*thing and moaning about not getting a shot. Mark it down.

I'm not arguing the way things are it. The die has been cast and the damage is irreversible. I just want to know WHY, and nobody has ever been able to explain it. People will argue the point, but nobody ever actually defends the point.

Why is that pre-CFP nobody ever, and I mean EVER, in the entire history of college football felt that a 10th ranked team should be considered a title contender but with the advent of the CFP it's just a foregone conclusion that the 10th ranked team is a contender and also that they DESERVE it?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lurker123

3USC1801

Joined Dec 10, 2020
Dec 10, 2020
1,079
3,300
113
Well, I think you know the answer to your own question but it is interesting how once a “playoff system” was established, anyone remotely close to being ranked as one of the 12 eligible teams all of a sudden lobbied for a higher position. And, if a good team was left out (aka, BYU, Vanderbilt), the cry for additional teams to be added became louder.

What is significant is how Notre Dame somehow strong armed the CFB committee into giving them a written decree that from now on ND is guaranteed a CFP spot if they are ranked 12th in the polls at the end of the season!! That tells me all I need to know … it’s all political. Forget SOS, conference strength, etc.

And while I’m ranting, it befuddles me how Sankey could move the SEC into playing 9 conference games beginning next year! Kirby Smart is correct in calling him out! The SEC will be the loser in that move, especially if they stay at 12 teams for the CFP.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Go Gamecocks

gamecock stock

All-Conference
Jan 21, 2022
3,462
3,097
113
Football is the most popular sport. The masses demanded playoff expansion. I, for one, draw the line at 16. There you get rid of byes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jonesz2

Piscis

All-Conference
Nov 30, 2001
24,603
2,137
113
The CFP is a football based reality show presented by Disney. The more teams Disney can get into the show, the more viewers they can sell ad time for. They even have shows about the committee and who they will pick and where. There is no real objective formula for who gets in outside of the P4 conference champions (As long as they are a big enough name to draw a nice tv audience and present a compelling argument that they will be competitive in the show. FSU with a hurt qb and Duke, being Duke with 5 losses, didn't make the cut). It is a lot like a beauty pageant.

The CFP is all about money, mostly money for Disney.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3USC1801

SC95

Joined Mar 31, 2008
Jan 31, 2022
616
1,211
93
There will always be someone complaining about being left out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jonesz2

Lurker123

All-Conference
May 4, 2020
5,595
4,636
113
What is significant is how Notre Dame somehow strong armed the CFB committee into giving them a written decree that from now on ND is guaranteed a CFP spot if they are ranked 12th in the polls at the end of the season!! That tells me all I need to know … it’s all political. Forget SOS, conference strength, etc.

This bothers me. The clause should have been top 10 at least. But 12 is too much.

If they end up 12th, with auto qualifiers taking a spot or two, ND will be forcibly included over teams ranked higher than them.

ND really just needs to join a conference.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3USC1801

gamecock stock

All-Conference
Jan 21, 2022
3,462
3,097
113
That doesn't answer the question though. And nobody can say why 16 teams will do what 12 teams didn't do.
I was not trying to answer your question. Just saying why the expansion happened in the first place. For those who don't want expansion, that toothpaste is out of the tube. 16 playoff teams is inevitable.
 

3USC1801

Joined Dec 10, 2020
Dec 10, 2020
1,079
3,300
113
This bothers me. The clause should have been top 10 at least. But 12 is too much.

If they end up 12th, with auto qualifiers taking a spot or two, ND will be forcibly included over teams ranked higher than them.

ND really just needs to join a conference.
It is written that if the CFP‘s go to 16 teams and ND is ranked 13th, they get an automatic bid. Notre Dame is essentially saying, “We ARE a conference!“ It’s completely ridiculous, and as Piscis says above, it’s all about the money.