Why did Trump take home and keep our sensitive and secret nuclear program and infrastructure?

The Midnight Toker

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What's disturbing, and I guess unsurprisingly, that among all my friends/family who are trunp supporters, and among those who I have personally talked to about this, this is my experience.

1. They initially deny that the tape is real.
2. When I get logical and say that trunp has never once denied it, and there are two witnesses, and I suggest there is tech that can confirm one way or another, they move on to the next step
3. They ignore that trunp did it, and commit whataboutism and talk about other people instead
4. When i dont fall for the deflecting, and try to stay on topic, we get to the real meat and potatoes
5. They then say that he was allowed to do it in the first place
6. When pressed that it's really not permissible, they say how they really feel. that they dont think what he did was wrong regardless of the legality OR, they dont care if it's illegal, he's still their guy.

What i've found is that the real problem we have is selective outrage. Being mad about clinton's intentional mishandling of classified data and not caring that he himself also intentionally mishandled classified documents.

And this is why politics f78cking sucks. It's why we never get anywhere. nobody wants accountability. they get more excitement out of pointing fingers outward
 

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What's disturbing, and I guess unsurprisingly, that among all my friends/family who are trunp supporters, and among those who I have personally talked to about this, this is my experience.

1. They initially deny that the tape is real.
2. When I get logical and say that trunp has never once denied it, and there are two witnesses, and I suggest there is tech that can confirm one way or another, they move on to the next step
3. They ignore that trunp did it, and commit whataboutism and talk about other people instead
4. When i dont fall for the deflecting, and try to stay on topic, we get to the real meat and potatoes
5. They then say that he was allowed to do it in the first place
6. When pressed that it's really not permissible, they say how they really feel. that they dont think what he did was wrong regardless of the legality OR, they dont care if it's illegal, he's still their guy.

What i've found is that the real problem we have is selective outrage. Being mad about clinton's intentional mishandling of classified data and not caring that he himself also intentionally mishandled classified documents.

And this is why politics f78cking sucks. It's why we never get anywhere. nobody wants accountability. they get more excitement out of pointing fingers outward
You nailed it! Whataboutism and deflections are their tools. Even some smart ones among us drink that kool-aid. Like you said, selective outrage abounds.
 

The Midnight Toker

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You nailed it! Whataboutism and deflections are their tools. Even some smart ones among us drink that kool-aid. Like you said, selective outrage abounds.
Yes, The cruelest irony lies in the fact that the selective outrage the dumbasses on one side loathe in their adversaries inevitably mirrors their own exhibited behavior, revealing the disheartening truth that they have become the very reflection they detest. It becomes an all consuming feedback loop. Which is why nothing ever changes, and it's why we are all having a lot of the same arguments today we had decades ago
 

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Yes, The cruelest irony lies in the fact that the selective outrage the dumbasses on one side loathe in their adversaries inevitably mirrors their own exhibited behavior, revealing the disheartening truth that they have become the very reflection they detest
Keep on roasting son. 👍
 

primus

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Yes, The cruelest irony lies in the fact that the selective outrage the dumbasses on one side loathe in their adversaries inevitably mirrors their own exhibited behavior, revealing the disheartening truth that they have become the very reflection they detest. It becomes an all consuming feedback loop. Which is why nothing ever changes, and it's why we are all having a lot of the same arguments today we had decades ago
You nailed it again. Unfortunately this is the era of projection, hypocrisy, and shamelessness.
 

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Your comment sounds Laa Laa Land all peaches and cream but #1. I don't see personal choice in abortion. I don't find liberals fighting for the life of the unborn, but instead seem to think that killing a baby in the mother's wound is above and beyond murder of the fetus. Is it freedom or propaganda telling young girls to have all the sex you want because if you get pregnant, the government will give encouragement to rectify the mistake as the baby has a hole drilled in its brain as it squirms for survival. #2. How do you see freedom in the ever encroachment of our current government into our daily lives, telling Americans how we must live, you can only buy small electric cars, can't have gas ovens, hot water heaters, central air and heat, and you name it the current government is at the average American's throat. #3. All this so-called maga misinformation is only the masses crying out for common sense in our government, not a bunch of race hustler's looking to make a buck off taxpayers. Trying to express their feeling against more and more divisive division of the masses by so-called liberal leaders. #4. All those crowds of so-called insane MAGA folk should tell you that your insane attitude of lumping them into nothing more than ignorant trailer trash no longer holds steam and never did. Those trailer trash folks cut off the heads of a king and queen several hundred years ago, so beware. #5. I don't see MAGA trying to destroy institutions in the phony so-called January sixth riot. Most of those folks were goaded into the actions they took by agents of this government, and yet the president had asked for the national guard, but your liberal house leader instead Poo-Pooed the idea in hopes what did happen would come to fruition. #6. Having a president who states he will save the earth by making policy edits that add hundreds to my living expenses by raising gas prices beyond common sense. # 7. How does putting government agents into church service add to being free to have an expression that some nerd employed by the government service deems to be hate speech, aka biblical words. Why are liberals as were the Nazis, Communist and Fascists, so afraid of churches, is it because they don't preach that the all encomposing self aggrandizing government is not their real god? #8. You brag about progress, but 350 million people all marching in lock step and bowing to the appointed leaders every whelm seem rather kind of a utopian world of mediocrity. I don't see sending some workers job to China or Mexico make good sense. Liberals love to gloat about Good Union Jobs, as the Big Guy loves to tell anyone who will listen. As a former union front office employee, I tell you unions are nothing but money pits for liberal politicians. There is nothing in being in a union that meets the definition of what unions used to stand for during their hay days.
#9. Please don't post the (I'm a liberal)drivel from some internet sight. I have been on both sides of the fence both liberal as a young man, conservative later, but I am now Independent, but then again I haven't let my liberal university professors turn me into a God hating, non-common sense thinking old man with four graduate level degrees.
No way you have four graduate level degrees and write the absolutely incoherent ******** you just spewed above.
 

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No way you have four graduate level degrees and write the absolutely incoherent ******** you just spewed above.
Well, your juvenile reply certainly confirms your ignorance of rational thought and why you failed 8th grade several times. So, Cole ole boy, don't get pregnant while screwing yourself.
 

ColeTucker

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Well, your juvenile reply certainly confirms your ignorance of rational thought and why you failed 8th grade several times. So, Cole ole boy, don't get pregnant while screwing yourself.
In the 8th grade I was setting records for high scores and winning state championships in Academic Bowl. You don't know me dipshit.
 

caldoc

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In the 8th grade I was setting records for high scores and winning state championships in Academic Bowl. You don't know me dipshit.
Actually, I do know individuals like you. You have a mental problem of attacking anyone in hopes of being part of the main group, as most keyboard warriors do. Your ignorance is exponential based on your very stupid remarks. Your remarks brand you more as the elementary school assclown bully. You were setting records alright, excelling yes, but in the bathroom toilet bowl. No one asked for your moronic input, but you were wanting to show the rest of the forum just how uneducated you are and your propensity to heap as much of the discourtesy living in that very small mind of yours on others. I can not help you, go away.
 

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Are you a member of MENSA? Why bring this up?
I am not a member of MENSA. I have no interest. I've engaged in extensive testing for years now. Kind of a hobby. I've seen a couple members charge obvious smarter members with having limited intelect. I find humor in such.

The lowest registered MENSA member IQ is 132.
 

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I am not a member of MENSA. I have no interest. I've engaged in extensive testing for years now. Kind of a hobby. I've seen a couple members charge obvious smarter members with having limited intelect. I find humor in such.

The lowest registered MENSA member IQ is 132.
This circle jerk of conservatives vouching for each others intelligence is pathetic and hilarious at the same time.
 

primus

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No way you have four graduate level degrees and write the absolutely incoherent ******** you just spewed above.
Well, if you understand his articulation, that's good enough. Grammatical construction is irrelivant nowadays, as long as one is able to communicate thoughts in a way that's understood. My 2 cents.
 

virgie76712

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This circle jerk of conservatives vouching for each others intelligence is pathetic and hilarious at the same time.
And you'll answer this question along with most conservatives here. I have 3 gold coins identical to the eye. One is counterfeit. How do I very quickly determine the fake? iasooner2000, LAY THE WOODY and I had 60 minutes to answer. No doubt you can match us. caldoc knows you can't. He reads your posts.