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Why do athletes end up woke?
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Calling people woke is a weaponized term by right-wingers to describe anyone on the left that has a different opinion. Extremism on the right or the left is bad. Very few people athletes or celebrities meet any sort of definition as extremists, they simply have more progressive worldviews. Trying to conflate everyone on the left with being Marxist thugs is an intellectually stunted way of trying to minimize real issues.
No one in this thread (or even in the public at large) seems to have a consistent definition of woke, which makes the premise of this discussion invalid. My personal definition of “woke”, which is simply being aware of social injustices; I’m not sure how you can label that a bad thing. I wish those in this thread were woke so we would have debates on real issues that shouldn’t be politically motivated.
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What does Cultural Marxism mean? What does Marxism mean to you and how does that apply to culture? Sounds like a right wing propoganda word that doesn't mean anything but really gets people's drawers in a bunch.
What does a fact mean to you, and how do you check it?
A fact is an objective piece of information. It can easily be checked because it is either true or not true.
Example: grass is green
That's a fact because grass is green. Subjective things are not facts.
Example: I think NBA Players are all Cultural Marxists. That's an opinion. No one here knows all the NBA players and they certainly don't know their political opinions.
Also this paragraph is not a fact but is my opinion.
A phrase like Cultural Marxism is a bit subjective on it's face since Marxism is an economic philosophy and not a cultural philosophy. Cultural Marxism is a murky phrase without a clear definition. Generally what this means is that people of a certain political belief system will use phrases like this to demean and villianize people who have beliefs that are not like their own or that make them uncomfortable to think about.
Yes I have mostly liberal views. My opinions are not monolithic. The fact that you and others
try to minimize someone’s entire position as simply “liberal” is a problem. I don’t agree with everything on the left, but as a basic principle I view the world from trying to understand where others come from.
Ok. Now we’re talking! That actually sounds like an excellent idea!
List one “real issue” and let’s all debate it. Be mindful of your own rules and don’t be “politically motivated” in the topic you choose or in your stance on said topic.
Go...
Proven by who, the dimwits? How many terrorists do you think are slipping across the borders now, waiting for their chance? But the dimwits need their votes.
I'm afraid that you are going to have to either retract or submit a correction. There are varying shades of green, and color can often be subjective depending on an individual's sight. You can't just lump all grass into the color green like it's binary or something. And not to mention, not all grass is actually green. Some grass is yellow, brown, red, and some folks around here might even describe grass as "blue".
And this is why we need people fact checking the so-called "fact checkers."
The woke (who called themselves that first) are fools played like a fiddle.
Wokism is cultural Marxism; it’s communist ideology rebranded for modern times. A proper education enables one to understand what these ideas are, where they come from, and what they’re trying to achieve.
It’s a bunk philosophy with a long history, made by losers for losers, who exploit a person’s feelings and lack of knowledge or intellectual acumen to deceive them into supporting something they wouldn’t otherwise. Celebrities are a prime target, useful idiots to spread the agenda.
Wokism is cultural Marxism; it’s communist ideology rebranded for modern times. A proper education enables one to understand what these ideas are, where they come from, and what they’re trying to achieve.
It’s a bunk philosophy with a long history, made by losers for losers, who exploit a person’s feelings and lack of knowledge or intellectual acumen to deceive them into supporting something they wouldn’t otherwise. Celebrities are a prime target, useful idiots to spread the agenda.
Color can absolutely be subjective. One thing isn't. Gender/sex. You're either born a male, or female unless you have an extremely rare disease genetically.
Yep, just ask a color blind person like myself if color is subjective or not. I can’t even tell the difference between red and green on the taskboards at work.
But isn't part of the Dimo's agenda to let men play women's sports?
Marxism as an economic system was long ago thoroughly exposed as a total failure. So I can see why you are ashamed to have it associated with your political party. At least I hope you are. There are those on the left who aren't embarrassed by it at all and openly call for a full blown Socialist/Communist system.
The Cultural Marxism being pushed is based on the Marxist oppressor/oppressee concept. This is what the academic leftists shifted to in the 60s when they were being laughed out of the room for trying to support the failed communist system.
Instead of dividing the victims by economic status, the primary division is by skin color, gender, sexuality, and whatever other groups can be used to set up a power struggle. The end goal is to tear down the country and rebuild it into a “progressive” utopia (actually it will be dystopia).
Identity politics, political correctness, and cancel culture are some of the weapons in this system, and they seem to work if you are immoral and shameless enough to use them.
Social pseudoscience academics develop insane, baseless doctrines such as White Privilege, White Fragility (both are extremely racist and are setting back race relations many decades and causing tribalism), Toxic Masculinity, transgender women playing against and showering with biological women, and many other illogical, irrational, and divisive, destructive ideas.
Leftist politicians push for teaching the 1619 Project (CRT) into school curriculums to brown-shirt brainwash young minds and rewrite history to solidify the leftist system. There are even calls to limit free speech! I never thought Liberals would go for that, but they’re not liberal anymore.
The unscientific idea of equality of outcome is expressed as “Equity”. The new "liberal" definition of diversity says that there are more differences between groups than between individuals. Never mind that this is the same GD thing racists believe. The left are the new racists. But we’re probably not supposed to talk about that.
HR departments are now training “victims” offended by non-PC speech to report the offense to the Department of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion for investigation. Yes, this **** has been implanted not only in academia, but also corporate America.
Arguing about the term "Cultural Marxism" and where the political ideas driving it originated does not solve your problem. It is a deflection. You're still left holding a steaming bag of ****. We are witnessing the attempted destruction of society for political gain. There are true Liberals standing with Conservatives against the “progressive” radicals, but it’s going to take the help of all democrats to stop the spread of this pathological disease.
Great post. There’s a lot of information available (for now) that details the growth of Cold War era Marxism into cultural Marxism which has permeated all aspects of American culture today as wokeism.
If you don’t acknowledge the communist roots of wokeism it’s because you’re too lazy to research it or because you’re fully on board with its intent.