Why not show it?
- Thread starter atlkvb
- Start date
Okay fair enough, just curious why have you chosen not to answer my hypothetical?
Or my question to you over what perogative does a woman have to terminate a conception she has no control over?
Since it doesn't appear you're going to answer my hypothetical let me ask you a factual question about abortion itself.
I think you would at least agree to the fact that it is not possible to abort a baby unless you first kill it correct?
Assuming you agree you must first kill it before you can abort it, why do you have to do that while it's still inside its mother's womb? Why not just birth it and then kill it?
The objective is the same, to kill a living baby is it not? So what makes it more sanitized to do it inside the womb rather than outside?
You're still killing it either way correct? And there is no other way to abort it other than to kill it isn't that also correct? So why don't we just birth these babies that we are killing instead of killing them inside their mother's womb? What's the difference? Killing the baby is still killing the baby correct?
I think you would at least agree to the fact that it is not possible to abort a baby unless you first kill it correct?
Assuming you agree you must first kill it before you can abort it, why do you have to do that while it's still inside its mother's womb? Why not just birth it and then kill it?
The objective is the same, to kill a living baby is it not? So what makes it more sanitized to do it inside the womb rather than outside?
You're still killing it either way correct? And there is no other way to abort it other than to kill it isn't that also correct? So why don't we just birth these babies that we are killing instead of killing them inside their mother's womb? What's the difference? Killing the baby is still killing the baby correct?
Last edited:
I know you disagree, I was asking why you don't show it on television to build more support for it?
What your scenario presupposes is that the opportunity to save either is equal and that's impossible if all I have is a choice to save one or the other. So given the fact I cannot save them both I would save the one who I have the greatest chance of saving since I cannot equally save both. If my chances of saving both are equal I would attempt to save both. If I couldn't save both I would save the one who had the greatest chance of me saving them since they would not both be equal.
Let me ask you another question...let's say a mother decides to have her Baby, then changes her mind about Motherhood and aborts it. (kills it) Should she be charged?
Why or why not? (Baby is born already)
She made her decision to end an unwanted pregnancy and just ended it didn't she? The only difference is she decided to carry the Baby full term, birth it, then kill it instead of killing it while it sat inside her Tummy. Why is she OK deciding to kill it pre-birth, but not after it's born?
Suppose she just tosses the Baby aside into a trash dumpster? Isn't it her body and her right to do with that Baby whatever she pleases? What difference does it make if it's born or not?
Last edited:
Alright, fair enough. So explain how if the woman (or Father) can control precisely when or if conception takes place why are so many pregnancies "unwanted" or "unexpected"? Conversely, many couples desperately attempt to have Children, some for years and cannot conceive for various reasons. If couples have that sort of control over this process, why can't they simply order their children on demand?
You said it's "crazy talk", so explain how what I just posted as fact is "crazy"?
Your silence is permitted by the way confirming you don't know what you're talking about.
jfc Christ dude. This is what I’m taking about. You are on here 24/7 arguing with yourself, it seems. Just because I didn’t answer you doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about. It might actually mean I’m spending my time with my family. You should try it some time.
Take a gd biology class if you want to know how people get pregnant. Here’s a hint: it doesn’t happen every time a couple has sex. Or it could happen the very first time. Science is amazing. Or boring. The fact that you think an invisible man in the sky has to be present to ensure that conception occurs is why I do not want to continue this conversation with you. We are on two completely different planes. We aren’t going to agree. So stop. Please. Go have sex with your wife and hope that the good lord above doesn’t assume you need yet another family member to ignore.
Nice explanation of my "craziness". See the mature thing for you to do instead of attacking me because you can't refute what I said "couples DO NOT CONTROL WHEN CONCEPTION OCCURS" would be to simply say..."know what atl...you're right, they don't. But they do have some participation in the process don't they?"
That would be accurate. But for you to simply insist they have complete control over something no Man could even begin to figure out...how a tiny microscopic Egg and a barely visible sperm unite and grow into a tiny Baby not only proves you are the one who needs to take a few more biology classes, but probably remedial Sex Ed too.
know what atl...you're right, they don't. but they do have some participation in the process don't they?
I've asked you many more questions in this thread you've also refused to answer proving you really don't know what you're talking about. It's OK, I get it.
Last edited:
So should I believe the first part of your post that there is no "invisible man" in the sky directing who gets pregnant, or should I follow your later advice in the same post and hope the "invisible man" you scoff at really exists yet has no future plans to bless me and my Wife of 36 years with any more than our fully grown 7 children (which of course we had total control over exactly when each was born, what they looked like, and how they turned out)
Either I'm confused or you are?
Last edited:
Just for the rest of the board...this is typical of how a Leftist argues. Make wild emotional charges, (you're crazy, go argue with yourself, take a biology class) get challenged on their emotional tirades to back them up, can't...lash out with more personal attacks in anger and frustration over their inability to factually defend what they're emotionally arguing, then just shut down the debate or simply refuse to answer any more questions to explain their illogical emotion filled arguments.
Leftists cannot argue based in logic or fact,(the facts are never on their side, and they are illogical thinkers) so they resort to emotion filled arguments to both protect their lack of credibility or inability to factually back up what they believe or advocate, and they resort to personal attacks against you for simply trying to get them to explain their irrational, illogical, emotional, unsubstantiated outbursts.
Exhibit A, in this thread.
Last edited:
Rape (the clarion call of the Left to defend Abortion on demand) is just 1% of all abortions performed.
excerpt:
Indeed, in a 1987 survey by the Alan Guttmacher Institute in which abortion patients were asked why they were having an abortion, only 1 percent of the 1,900 women questioned named rape or incest. And 95 percent of those who mentioned rape or incest named other reasons as well for deciding to abort, the institute said. ''The 1 percent number from the 1987 survey is really the best we have on abortions because of rape or incest,'' said Susan Tew, a spokeswoman for the institute."
Rape & incest just 1% of all abortions
link:
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/13/us/rape-and-incest-just-1-of-all-abortions.html
excerpt:
Indeed, in a 1987 survey by the Alan Guttmacher Institute in which abortion patients were asked why they were having an abortion, only 1 percent of the 1,900 women questioned named rape or incest. And 95 percent of those who mentioned rape or incest named other reasons as well for deciding to abort, the institute said. ''The 1 percent number from the 1987 survey is really the best we have on abortions because of rape or incest,'' said Susan Tew, a spokeswoman for the institute."
Rape & incest just 1% of all abortions
link:
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/13/us/rape-and-incest-just-1-of-all-abortions.html