Why shouldn't we hire Franklin?

[Go Gamecocks]

Spurrier was still an a**hat when he was here.

Maybe to you, but not to me. Steve & Jeri are good people. Maybe you're the "a**hat"?

 

[Lurker123]

If Shane gets let go by us he won't be a head coach again. That's typically the norm here-graveyard of coaching-head coaches either die (RIP Joe), retire or join another coaching staff with a lower title.

Agree here.

Not because its the norm, but because he was a position coach elevated before he was ready. (If he was ever going to be ready)

Would you hire him to run your offense, or defense? ST?

Unless he takes over some small local school as HC, I think hes stuck in a tough spot after this job. Granted, a tough spot with a filled up retirement account.

 

[18IsTheMan]

What will the temperature be on Monday morning if we are sitting at 3-4?

Honestly, probably not much different.

Those who think Beamer needs more time will say a loss doesn't change anything.

Those who think Beamer is running or has run out of time will say a loss to OU is just one more piece of support for dismissing him.

 

[Lurker123]

South Carolina fans are convinced that the sexy hires de jure are clawing at our doors and could do what Dietzel, Holtz, and Spurrier could not if we would but throw more of the millions they complain so much about at them.

Some may be, but some are much more grounded. I and others have stated the desire for what Piscis said. Pick a younger guy coming up.

Yes, that was what was done with Sparky. But we cant negate every scenario that has failed before, we'd have no options.

I've seen Stock say that our best successes were with older, established coaches nearer retirement, and thats true.

But I dont mind if a young coach uses us as a stepping stone. To me, that means he's done a good to great job here in the mean time.

 

[kidrobinski]

I agree it's not a mistake yet. Also not a success. The jury is still out. But should the jury still be out in Year 5? I think we probably have seen what we're going to get with Beamer. If he hits in the portal, good years. If he doesn't, bad/mediocre years.

Or take the sure thing. We've already seen what Franklin can do with less resources than us (Vandy) and what he can do with more resources than us (PSU). He'd be a sure thing to get us 8/9 wins a year.

There were a lot of folks around here who thought we should have pursued Richt after he was fired from UGA. We've seen Franklin's floor and ceiling. His floor here would probably be about 7 wins. Ceiling would probably be 10 wins.

I have advocated in the past on here for just giving Beamer a 10 year contract and seeing what happens, so I'm not totally down on Beamer (recent post history aside). This is just a very rare opportunity.

Of course, I know this isn't happening. You are right that Beamer is secure this year no matter what. It's just a Friday thought exercise. It makes total sense to me, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I hear you. It is indeed a tempting and providential situation.

Maybe this new AD is a gunslinger and you’ll get your wish. I would not be unhappy with Franklin truthfully.

 

[will110]

Beamer has a $27 million buyout. I have a really hard time seeing South Carolina paying that no matter what happens this season.

 

[Lurker123]

Beamer has a $27 million buyout. I have a really hard time seeing South Carolina paying that no matter what happens this season.

If polled, I dont think a single poster really thinks he's going to be let go this season. Regardless if we win only the coastal game or not.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If polled, I dont think a single poster really thinks he's going to be let go this season. Regardless if we win only the coastal game or not.

I don't think he will be. I don't think it would be hard to argue against it, though, particularly if we end up 4-8 with wins only over terrible teams.

 

[USC2USC]

He's available. He'd probably be very open to going somewhere like USC that has dreams of greatness but overall low expectations. He's the perfect program builder. It would be a very low pressure situation for him coming from PSU. I'm positive he'd build us into a consistent 9-win type team. If he could win 8 or 9 games a year semi-regularly, our fans would be in hog heaven. He'd probably get a state holiday in his honor. We could pay him at least as much as he was making at PSU. He'd be back in the SEC where he made his name.

He's still relatively young, but has a very strong track record as a head coach. Not very often you get a chance at hiring a proven head coach who is in his early 50s. Yeah, he was just fired, but only b/c he didn't win a national title, so he's far from a coaching re-tread.

It would be a very alpha move by Donati to fire Beamer and hire Franklin, but chances like this don't come along often. Maybe once ever in your tenure as AD. I don't think it's in our DNA to do it, but it would be slam dunk by any measure. He's really the perfect coach for us with his track record at building programs, which is exactly what we need. In spite of his demise at PSU he's still very highly regarded in coaching circles and would be able to attract very good assistants, which is something we can't do now.

I see no downside.

Because we have a coach.

An interesting thing I read about the PSU buyout, is that Franklin is required to look for another coaching or broadcast job and if he takes one the buyout is reduced. Not sure how they would monitor his job search but thought it was an interesting element of the contract.

 

[gamecox4982]

I actually believe Franklin is good with being let go at PS… He can now start over with a pocket full of money and can go to a school with lower expectation. He’s now on GAMEDAY interviewing for his next job. Trust me he’s glad they let him go. $$$$$$$$$

 

[psychocock1984]

Why not hire an ex Vandy coach as it is clear Vandy has surpassed us. (Yes I am being a troll but watching the LSU Vandy game I believe I am an honest and accurate troll).