Wilkerson to Indiana

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I think the product on the court is more healthy than it has been in years.

Despite all the turnover and drama, players staying in college generally and low and mid majors playing minor league has made for higher quality competition for the major conferences and top programs.

I also think the portal season keeps the momentum of the interest going.
A lot of things would keep interest going, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. Players shouldn’t be allowed to change schools every year it’s just silly. If they’re going to get paid like pros and have agents there should be contracts.
 

KYFOSSIL

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He looked uncomfortable as hell at Keeneland. The stage was too big, and I think that's part of why Pope takes them there.
I thought the same thing he didn’t look like he was having that great of time to me just based on two pictures
 

billoliver40

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Folks, go ahead an throw the "ignorant" label on me again but not getting a guy that wasn't NBA ready, had one good shooting year and admitted didn't like to a)distribute the ball b) rebound or c) play defense doesn't really sound like a season ending problem when you're trying to find PT for Noah, Chandler and Perry....and none of those three hesitate to shoot.

This stuff about hand wringing over a kind of player we have three of already really doesn't make just a ton of tears to me.
 
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LmdCat

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Me too. Think people are sleeping on him. I wouldn’t be surprised to find he starts at 2G. Dead serious, probably get crushed but I’m a Chandler guy too!
I agree with you about Chandler. I would not recruit over Chandler. Chandler has shown himself to be a team player who understands Pope's system. I expect him to have breakout season even more so than Lamar because his floor was much higher.
 

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Me too. Think people are sleeping on him. I wouldn’t be surprised to find he starts at 2G. Dead serious, probably get crushed but I’m a Chandler guy too!
I agree. I totally understand why we would want an established shooter. But during the last seven games of the season, we all were noticing how it seemed Chandler had turned a corner. He shot 12-23 from three during that stretch. It's a small sample size, but we can hope it coincides with what had been said all season - that he had great potential but it would take awhile to catch up after two years off. Maybe he can continue that trajectory?
 

kyhoward

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Why not Kentucky? He said it was because he didn’t want to be one of several go-to pieces on the roster. Many more players available.

Obviously not a team guy. Probably got more money and promise of 30+ minutes. Thank you Lamar for not picking UK.
 

Bluegrassking

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I agree with you about Chandler. I would not recruit over Chandler. Chandler has shown himself to be a team player who understands Pope's system. I expect him to have breakout season even more so than Lamar because his floor was much higher.
I'd "recruit over" Jordan, Bird, and Wilt.

They will beat who I bring in and make them stronger for when they depart for the draft in a few months.

I'm not going for barely enough guys to practice and pray nor am I looking for guys that clearly can only provide depth below Chandler at this level.
 
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LmdCat

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Maybe I misheard what he said, but it sounds like Lamar disrespected IU by saying if he went to UK he would just be another guy. But he didn't feel that way going to IU. It sounds like he thinks he is bigger than the IU program or at least he thinks he will be as great as anyone they have which I think is incorrect.
 

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We don't know that. At all. We don't know what goes on in these discussions or decisions.
Dude stayed an extra day, soaked up the love, attention and food. Then when it was all said and done, went somewhere else. Guy was quoted as saying he loved the facilities and the fit. You can't spin it any other way.
 

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Maybe I misheard what he said, but it sounds like Lamar disrespected IU by saying if he went to UK he would just be another guy. But he didn't feel that way going to IU. It sounds like he thinks he is bigger than the IU program or at least he thinks he will be as great as anyone they have which I think is incorrect.
I mean, is he wrong?

Indiana is a has-been program. They’re not a blueblood anymore.
 

Bluegrassking

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Perry is an elite shooter. He just isn’t an SEC athlete.
Tony Delk was damn near a unicorn playing shooting guard at his height three decades ago and Perry isn't withing eye shot of being that level of athletic and even he isn't so much better a shooter (he would do very well to be as good, to be honest) to bridge the gulf.

He MUST get stronger, get the ball on a string, and develop into a point guard to be a meaningful contributor here.
 
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jessieshorts8

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I did think it was strange that he was the one to reach out to UK. Looking back now it's obvious his agent was using UK to get more money from Indiana.
 
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He wasn't always the player he is now. There is no reason to not believe someone currently on this roster can become that player. Lamar was a JUCO player who is described as a player who polished up his game. Well if a JUCO player can do that, there is no reason to think that someone who started with a higher floor can't do the same.
You're making too much sense LMD. I know it took Chandler a long time to shake his rust and jitters but once he found his confidence didnt he show a little bit of exactly what you are talking about?

He went from somebody who was scared to death to let it go and when he did might go over the backboard, to turning them loose from everywhere and hitting over 50% dow the stretch! And remember he wasnt even thought of as a shooter and pre-season was one of our best slashers so he has that game in him too that still is yet to be seen and developed.

We have our two man on the roster and he's a former 4/5 start guy and better athlete that Wilkerson.
 
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katwest

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It sounds like it took everything Indiana had to get him there, money, starting position and several more undisclosed perks. Kentucky wasn’t willing to meet all of his demands. There is a reason he was at Sam Houston to begin with, I’d rather Pope get the right one, than one that wants to be the guy. He was the guy at Sam Houston, Kentucky wants team players that want to win, he can take 30 shots a game at Indiana, that way his ego won’t take a hit.
 

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I mean, is he wrong?

Indiana is a has-been program. They’re not a blueblood anymore.
I guess he better enjoy his time at IU because it is likely to be the end of the road for him. If he thinks he has to go to a has-been program to shine, he doesn't sound like anyone who can take on the challenge required to become an NBA player.
 
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I’d take a flyer on a guy that won’t be super expensive…offer Wes Enis from D2 Lincoln Memorial. 6’2” CG. Conference POY and Defensive POY. Played HS at Miami East OH.

Has some deep range. 20.1 ppg 4.4 rpg 3.1 apg. Can help at both guard positions. 44% 3s.
 

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A half million balloons that's how. Your 20 years old and have 2 job offers, one pays a half million dollars than the other which do you take? Common folks it's about MONEY for most of these kids.
lol when you put it like that it's pretty sobering...
 

SemperFiCat

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Dude stayed an extra day, soaked up the love, attention and food. Then when it was all said and done, went somewhere else. Guy was quoted as saying he loved the facilities and the fit. You can't spin it any other way.
So, it's simply not possible he was actually trying to gather information, explore his options, 'do the math', and then decided IU was the best option for him? That's not a possibility? The only answer is he was playing a game with Kentucky?
 
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jessieshorts8

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So, it's simply not possible he was actually trying to gather information, explore his options, 'do the math', and then decided IU was the best option for him? That's not a possibility? The only answer is he was playing a game with Kentucky?
Well his comments in the interview make me think he was never coming.
 

tj4fun

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I agree. I totally understand why we would want an established shooter. But during the last seven games of the season, we all were noticing how it seemed Chandler had turned a corner. He shot 12-23 from three during that stretch. It's a small sample size, but we can hope it coincides with what had been said all season - that he had great potential but it would take awhile to catch up after two years off. Maybe he can continue that trajectory?

It might've been a small sample size, but it was against good competition. Not Bucknell/wright st/Sam Houston. Also was on a big stage.

I also really like JJ. I feel like he has a complete game. Good ball handling, good shooter, good mid range game. A lot to like. He is much better then most of the freshman guards that went thru this program the past 5 years! Imo by March 2026 he will be a hand full!
I really hated to see Lewis go as well. I really like his work ethic and the way he played the game. But I guess he felt it was best for his career to go elsewhere where he had more MPG opportunity!
 

BigBlueGuru

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Well his comments in the interview make me think he was never coming.
I agree. I was traveling for work most all day yesterday and didnt get to logon and see what was going and the comments until late last night. I just had a strange feeling about how this played out. I think he used Kentucky 100%. Why? First his team reached out to UK instead of us reaching out to him right before his visits. Then he is miraculously really high on UK. He was a heavy IU lean before making any visits. Then supposedly he had a bad experience at IU or so we were told by the talking heads. Who leaked that supposed info was what I was thinking because I cant remember the last time a recruit came out and said they had a bad visit. Then supposedly Kentucky made such an impact that he ended his recruitment and didnt even visit his other schools but oh by the way if it was an easy decision why did he need to go home without committing while at UK to discuss with family and pray? It was all a leverage move to get more from IU. That why I made my post this morning and stated it is not over IU will raise their offer. I did not think they would hire his Assistant Coach and Mentor but I would expect that is something Wilkerson and his team put in to IU as a potential deal closure. Kid and his handlers played it well.
 
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