WKU Undefeated In The SEC????

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I been running this simulator with WKU in the SEC in place of UK and they keep going 13-0 and always beat Bama by at least 4 touchdowns in the SEC title game. They just have no answer for Brohm's coaching and their elite players.

I'm surprised someone hasn't snatched this guy up yet.


 

Mr Schwump

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I been running this simulator with WKU in the SEC in place of UK and they keep going 13-0 and always beat Bama by at least 4 touchdowns in the SEC title game. They just have no answer for Brohm's coaching and their elite players.

I'm surprised someone hasn't snatched this guy up yet.



Which would be surprising considering LSU beat them by 4 TDs just a few weeks ago.
 

Crushgroove

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Wasn't it by 1 point or something?
I think they could have gotten to a bowl with our schedule though.
They lost to IU by a FG, beat Vandy by 2 and beat LaTech by a FG. I guess in some alternate reality that does somewhat resemble an SEC schedule. OD, RIce and North Texas is a regular who's who of NCAA FB, don'tcha know.

09/03/15 at Vanderbilt
Nashville, Tenn. W, 14-12
09/10/15 vs. Louisiana Tech *
Bowling Green, Ky. W, 41-38
09/19/15 at Indiana
Bloomington, Ind. L, 38-35
09/26/15 vs. Miami (Oh)
Bowling Green, Ky. W, 56-14
10/03/15 at Rice *
Houston, Texas W, 49-10
10/10/15 vs. Middle Tennessee *
Bowling Green, Ky. W, 58-28
10/15/15 at North Texas *
Denton, Texas W, 55-28
10/24/15 at LSU
Baton Rouge, La. L, 48-20
10/31/15 at Old Dominion *
Norfolk, Va. W, 55-30
11/07/15 vs. Florida Atlantic (HC) *
Bowling Green, Ky. W, 35-19
11/21/15 at FIU *
Miami, Fla. W, 63-7
11/27/15 vs. Marshall *
Bowling Green, Ky. W, 49-28
 

TJS4UK

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I been running this simulatorwith WKU in the SEC in place of UK and they keep going 13-0 and always beat Bama by at least 4 touchdowns in the SEC title game.

Somebody forgot to tell your simulator that LSU is an SEC team. They spanked WKU 48-20. LSU (8-3) certainly had an answer & they weren't even the best SEC team, so it would appear that your simulator is malfunctioning.
 

Mr Schwump

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The common theme in the 2 games WKU actually played vs SEC teams was the paltry showing of Brohm's supposedly vaunted offense. He managed only 14 points vs Vandy and 20 vs LSU. Nary a true threat which is why no P5 school came calling for Saint Brohm.
 
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The common theme in the 2 games WKU actually played vs SEC teams was the paltry showing of Brohm's supposedly vaunted offense. He managed only 14 points vs Vandy and 20 vs LSU. Nary a true threat which is why no P5 school came calling for Saint Brohm.

You might need to get a better source,
 

Crushgroove

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UK lost 41-3 to LSU, one that may have been considered lesser talented.

At least WKU scored!

That was last year. Are we comparing any year to any year now to make points?

They would spank us, that's for certain.

Probably, but let's not use wins against UK and Vandy as a measure of a CUSA team's chances vs. the entire SEC. WKU would likely throttle UL this year, too.
 
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That was last year. Are we comparing any year to any year now to make points?



Probably, but let's not use wins against UK and Vandy as a measure of a CUSA team's chances vs. the entire SEC. WKU would likely throttle UL this year, too.

And let's not make the SEC out to be something it's not. This year there are a couple of good teams at the top, a few decent teams in the next tier and a bunch of bad teams outside of that.
 

Crushgroove

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And let's not make the SEC out to be something it's not. This year there are a couple of good teams at the top, a few decent teams in the next tier and a bunch of bad teams outside of that.

And it's still a damned sight better than CUSA. UK lost to exactly 1 team (Vandy) that isn't bowl bound and you guys are using that same win for WKU to make your point about the SEC. Just slow down in the WKU slurp fest.
 
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And it's still a damned sight better than CUSA. UK lost to exactly 1 team (Vandy) that isn't bowl bound and you guys are using that same win for WKU to make your point about the SEC. Just slow down in the WKU slurp fest.

Let's put it this way, if WKU had the advantages that UK has by residing in a P5 conference, they would likely finish better than 5-7.
 
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And it's still a damned sight better than CUSA. UK lost to exactly 1 team (Vandy) that isn't bowl bound and you guys are using that same win for WKU to make your point about the SEC. Just slow down in the WKU slurp fest.

And had zero wins against bowl bound teams which is hard to do with so many of them.
 

Crushgroove

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Let's put it this way, if WKU had the advantages that UK has by residing in a P5 conference, they would likely finish better than 5-7.

It's fun to speculate based on non-facts. However, we could actually hard info and speculate that if UK played the 101st ranked SOS like WKU did instead of the 5th ranked SOS like UK did, they'd have likely produced similar results to WKU.
 
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It's fun to speculate based on non-facts. However, we could actually hard info and speculate that if UK played the 101st ranked SOS like WKU did instead of the 5th ranked SOS like UK did, they'd have likely produced similar results to WKU.

A team that essentially tied EKU and lost to Louisville at home and LOST to Vandy? Those facts aren't helping your case.

And if the NCAA has UK with the 5th toughest schedule in the country, then they need to call the help desk. A quick check of two other sites has them at 60, which seems about right. Easiest schedule in years.
 
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WKU averaged 17 PPG against the SEC. 17!!

Dawson averaged 17.5 PPG against the SEC this year & he got fired.

Again, I think that the simulator is malfunctioning.

So are you suggesting UK had a better year than Western?

And Dawson was actually "stooped". Just like Spurrier, Pinkel and Hood.
 

TJS4UK

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So are you suggesting UK had a better year than Western?

The stats say that WKU's PPG stats were not any more productive against SEC competition than UK's PPG stats. The PPG stats prove that. Anything beyond that is nothing more than pure speculation. 17.5 to 17. That's the facts.
 
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Wow, I had to do a double take. We're on a two game losing streak to an in-state CUSA team. We both played Vandy in Nashville this year...WKU won and we lost. WKU looks fundamentally sound and we look uncoached. We had a second straight crash & burn second-half of a season to miss bowl eligibility by a single game at a time when the SEC East is weak. WKU in turn goes 8-5 and 12-2 in the past two years including two bowl victories. We gave up a 21 point lead in a loss to a bad UL team and needed a miracle to beat an in-state 1-AA squad in EKU........AND WE'RE TALKING TRASH!?!?!?!? I know we're "s'pose to be SEC" and all, but the fact of the matter is we would get run by a dozen FCS teams this year. Keep rolling with the conference-affiliation trash talk....it doesn't get us any wins....doesn't get us to any bowl games, but it seems to make some of the BBN fan base feel better.

I'll hold the trash talk until we start to look like a FB team, play some decent football and win some games on the field. GBB!
 

Crushgroove

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A team that essentially tied EKU and lost to Louisville at home and LOST to Vandy? Those facts aren't helping your case.

And if the NCAA has UK with the 5th toughest schedule in the country, then they need to call the help desk. A quick check of two other sites has them at 60, which seems about right. Easiest schedule in years.

Preseason SOS rankings courtesy of Phil Steel. You know a better source?

Post-season adjustments saw UK's SOS fall to 60th and the vaunted Hilltoppers jump from preseason 101 all the way to 99th. And that somehow helps your argument? Bravo. Interesting how you left that bit out when we both know you checked on it. Point me to all the CUSA teams in the playoffs and I'll listen. Better yet, point me to a single major bowl for CUSA teams and I'm all ears. Until then, go be a Topper fan until some school poaches Brohm and they return to being an also ran. I'm sure you'll find another team to pull for when they do.
 

Crushgroove

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Wow, I had to do a double take. We're on a two game losing streak to an in-state CUSA team. We both played Vandy in Nashville this year...WKU won and we lost. WKU looks fundamentally sound and we look uncoached. We had a second straight crash & burn second-half of a season to miss bowl eligibility by a single game at a time when the SEC East is weak. WKU in turn goes 8-5 and 12-2 in the past two years including two bowl victories. We gave up a 21 point lead in a loss to a bad UL team and needed a miracle to beat an in-state 1-AA squad in EKU........AND WE'RE TALKING TRASH!?!?!?!? I know we're "s'pose to be SEC" and all, but the fact of the matter is we would get run by a dozen FCS teams this year. Keep rolling with the conference-affiliation trash talk....it doesn't get us any wins....doesn't get us to any bowl games, but it seems to make some of the BBN fan base feel better.

I'll hold the trash talk until we start to look like a FB team, play some decent football and win some games on the field. GBB!

I don't see anyone talking trash, only some with common sense illustrating that WKU beating lowly UK and Vandy does not equate to SEC dominance or even a better record than UK posted this year. You can try to pull reasoning out of your *** like Pedro to bolster your point, but there exists none outside of pure speculation, as has already been proven.
 

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Preseason SOS rankings courtesy of Phil Steel. You know a better source?

Post-season adjustments saw UK's SOS fall to 60th and the vaunted Hilltoppers jump from preseason 101 all the way to 99th. And that somehow helps your argument? Bravo. Interesting how you left that bit out when we both know you checked on it. Point me to all the CUSA teams in the playoffs and I'll listen. Better yet, point me to a single major bowl for CUSA teams and I'm all ears. Until then, go be a Topper fan until some school poaches Brohm and they return to being an also ran. I'm sure you'll find another team to pull for when they do.

Pedro is not a Topper fan. He's not a UK fan, either, but he IS a fan of one team located in the state of Kentucky.
 
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Crushgroove

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Pedro is not a Topper fan. He's not a UK fan, either, but he IS a fan of one team located in the state of Kentucky.

Well, no wonder he knows so much about CUSA. Or the Big East. Or the Metro. Or the AAC. Or the ACC. Conference bastard schools like UL and WKU gotta stick together.
 
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I don't see anyone talking trash, only some with common sense illustrating that WKU beating lowly UK and Vandy does not equate to SEC dominance or even a better record than UK posted this year. You can try to pull reasoning out of your *** like Pedro to bolster your point, but there exists none outside of pure speculation, as has already been proven.

I've never said WKU would dominate the SEC....don't know anyone who did. My "reasoning" is based on fact, and it is unassailable. We have a 2 game losing streak to WKU head-to-head. Moreover, they're playing winning FB and going to bowl games. We are not.
 

TJS4UK

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WKU had a very good season. Congrats!!! Enjoy it all of you WKU fans. I'd be more than thrilled if UK had their record!!

That said, despite the opinion of the OP's simulator, WKU DID NOT go undefeated against their 2 SEC opponents this year, nor did they go undefeated period. LSU soundly beat them by several TD's. That isn't trash talking, that is the facts.

Furthermore, this is a UK board, I'm not sure why fanatical WKU propaganda is being posted here. Doesn't WKU have a board of it's own?

Again, neither UK's nor WKU's PPG stats were very good against SEC competition. IMHO, both UK & WKU need to play a whole lot better, against the SEC level competition, before either team starts chirping very much.
 

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I've never said WKU would dominate the SEC....don't know anyone who did. My "reasoning" is based on fact, and it is unassailable. We have a 2 game losing streak to WKU head-to-head. Moreover, they're playing winning FB and going to bowl games. We are not.

But the OP did say that WKU would dominate the SEC. That is the very point of this thread. The OP tried to troll this board by insinuating that WKU would go undefeated with UK's schedule. That is what is being disputed, not whether or not UK would, could or should beat WKU. I, myself, even admitted earlier in the thread that UK would "probably" lose to WKU this year, as would UL. I think if you re-read the thread you'll see where your argument is merely a tangent point to the main theme, hence your confusion.

Furthermore, WKU is winning games b/c they play in an inferior conference and against a SOS that was 95+ preseason and 30+ spots post-season weaker than that of UK's. Again, maybe you need to read the entire thread before commenting. This is the very essence of the argument, not your assertion that WKU's program is trending higher than UK's right now. No one is disputing that point. But, if you think WKU could turn UK's schedule into a bowl game or even better as Pedro and Pepe were boasting, I ask that you provide proof beyond mere speculation born of disgust or frustration with UK/Stoops.
 

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I been running this simulator with WKU in the SEC in place of UK and they keep going 13-0 and always beat Bama by at least 4 touchdowns in the SEC title game. They just have no answer for Brohm's coaching and their elite players.

I'm surprised someone hasn't snatched this guy up yet.


Did we still suck every time you ran your simulator?
 
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