The 1.5 seconds isn't as bad as it sounds unless you're sending 3 guys out in a 7 man coverage, which was the norm.
WKYT reporting that Dawson won't be back next season
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The 1.5 seconds isn't as bad as it sounds unless you're sending 3 guys out in a 7 man coverage, which was the norm.
I'm definitely taking this as good news....
I don't care what anybody on this board says, Shannon Dawson had sent this offense backwards and the stats prove it.
Also there was some real frustration with Shannon Dawson amongst the players and coaching staff. Coaches were frustrated after the Florida game, Towles was frustrated with him after that game as well. Stoops was irritated with Dawson after the Vandy lose as well, Stoops thought his play calling in the redzone could have been much better. So those are 2 games that I know they are frustrated with Dawson on and thought that UK could have or should have won both those....
I don't care what anybody on this board says, Shannon Dawson had sent this offense backwards and the stats prove it.
Also there was some real frustration with Shannon Dawson amongst the players and coaching staff. Coaches were frustrated after the Florida game, Towles was frustrated with him after that game as well. Stoops was irritated with Dawson after the Vandy lose as well, Stoops thought his play calling in the redzone could have been much better. So those are 2 games that I know they are frustrated with Dawson on and thought that UK could have or should have won both those....
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My pick would be Eddie Gran at Cincy now.
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frost-! I like your choice and he would be a good one. I know he doesn't make near the money Dawson made at UK. Also opens up another fertile, recruiting area in Ohio. Let's see what happens. Plus D J Elliot.
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My pick would be Eddie Gran at Cincy now.
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frost-! I like your choice and he would be a good one. I know he doesn't make near the money Dawson made at UK. Also opens up another fertile, recruiting area in Ohio. Let's see what happens. Plus D J Elliot.
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This had to be done. They were statistically worse this year than last without as many proven playmakers and schedule. He had to go, this was putrid offense, it was not able to come through except for first half of S. Carolina and the last 8 minutes of EKU.
I mean talk going around was after further review, the staff felt like UK gave 2-3 games away just on the offensive side, Fla, Vandy, UL. Most of the coaches feel like if they had made one drive or one TD score to twart UL in 3rd quarter that they win that going away. I have heard this from someone who was told this by a recruit's parent and or coach on a recruiting visit. They felt like 2-3 first downs in UL game puts that game away and you get one score after UL scores than you put them back at 2-3 scores, having to throw ball. Vandy game was no brainer. Fla. game was one that offense could not make a play with chances, apparently film shows 2-3 wide open lanes or throws.
Apparently defense is blamed for first half of Auburn game, failed to show but came back and made stops, UT game, the offense was abysmal, Miss. St. was a struggle.
Just evaluating things, looks like Mark feels most of damage was on offense end and this was also why defense broke down a lot especially later in season. Just saying what I have heard
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like i said...Dawson gets some blame...the overall offensive game plan and scheme was suspect at best...and effective in game adjustments were scarce...
but he wasn't coaching the OL, WRs, RBs every day in practice and directly responsible for their development...nor was he coaching them up on the sideline...
I think what CMS is going to learn, if he hasn't already, is that you're not going to get by on a good coordinator or two...or even a certain philosophy or "system" on either side of the ball...
you not only need top coordinators, but you need the very best assistants at every position...
and from top to bottom the UK staff for the most part is a relatively young staff without a lot of experience...especially in the SEC...and that has been reflected on the field the past 3 years and dawson was here for just one of them...
This times a million this has been my sentiment since the vandy game. The runs u the middle from the one 3 straight plays was about the worst play calling I've ever seen. I've honestly never seen worse play calling at the d1 level.
I'm sure this guy is available. Bring back Brooks as DC/Associate head coach.
Although it wont happen & some may scoff... he actually was a pretty good OC & his WR's developed pretty well too when he was the WR coach (Burton, Cobb, Johnson, Lyons, etc).
Would definitely love to have Brooks back @ UK in some capacity. But, that wont happen either.
I mean as bad of a head coach he was. Can we really argue that he was a bad OC? Certainly an upgrade over Dawson for sure. Obviously it would never happen but he wasn't a bad OC and he had less talent (as far as recruiting services go) to work with when he was the OC. But the play calling when he was in charge was also very woeful so who knows since it'll never happen again since he was chased out by an angry mob with torches (deservedly so).I'm sure this guy is available. Bring back Brooks as DC/Associate head coach.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the playcalling. The problem was who was running those plays. You have Kemp in there and we score, I guarandamntee it. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing OC's passing the ball when you're a yard or two from the end zone.
I bet you wanted them to throw it there didn't you?
No I don't think no matter who was back there it wouldn't have mattered it was horrendous play calling. You go under center. Hand it to a big boy in the FB spot in goal line formation and jam it in. Or qb sneak it 4 times. Qb sneak 4 times would have worked no questions asked. When you run out of shotgun from the one you're turning a one yard run into 4 or 5 yard run in order to score. Just plain stupid you'll never see that in the NFL ever.
That's really the sum of it. Human nature, in an uncomfortable or uncertain situation, is to not act, to hunker down so to speak. I'm encouraged Stoops is acting. Next year's schedule is difficult enough that it may not matter, but at least he's not gonna whistle past the graveyard.
He's a home run hire, until it doesn't work, and then everyone wants to fire the coach, the AD and the school president for making such a dumb hire.....
Well this is probably not a good thing. 3 OC's in 4 years does not lead to good stability. Now Stoops almost has to hire a guy that runs close to the same offense that Brown and Dawson ran....which was not a true Air Raid.
Now the offense has to learn new plays and schemes. this might be the undoing of Stoops.
Now the offense has to learn new plays and schemes. this might be the undoing of Stoops.
Serious question, did you watch this season of Kentucky tackle football? The playcalling was atrocious from the ULL game. Love how CJ Conrad was only thrown at like 3 games out of 12. And how Boom Williams was emasculating Auburn in the 1st quarter, then doesnt touch the ball in the 2nd?
There are still questions that I wonder about. First game, we were told that Dawson liked to play vertical, and we saw a vertical offense on steroids for one game. The next game it was almost gone and by the third game it was. What happened? Secondly, if we change the offense, how do current and future recruits look at us if we throw less? Last, another year of learning and being vanilla until we learn the offense. This definitely doesn't help the new OC, especially in SEC play. Hopefully with more talent coming in and our youth having more experience it will aid the OC in being more successful before we start hating him. 
I could care less how he treats media, I care that he couldn't make one GD first down against UL in second half.
He could be the biggest *** in the world if his offense was producing, it was awful, it was worse than year before which is disgraceful. He needed to go, this offense and this OL was put in terrible situations and the fact he could not get first downs, TD's cost UK 3 games in the coaches estimation. FLa, Vandy, and UL.
He was abysmal as OC and needed to go. He could have been cocky and prickly if he was calling up plays that scored TD's and won games, he was calling up plays that couldn't score 2 times inside the yard line against Vanderbilt.
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