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Really like Reyna. Dude is going to be good. I kind of get why he’s coming off the bench though.

Have to play McKennie, Adams and Musah. Our midfield is our strength. Have to play Pulisic. I think you have to play Weah for quickness. So this leaves the decision of a false 9 with Reyna in middle or traditional st.

If the US had a real killer at st, then makes more sense to start Reyna at CAM and McKennie and Adams in midfield but we don’t have a striker who can create.

Albeit, I also like idea of bringing Musah and McKennie up to box with Reyna in false 9 and Pulisic and Weah cutting inside. I think that makes more sense vs Netherlands than Iran
Reyna has been injured much of the year, hasn’t played in qualifiers hasn’t practiced much with the team. Reyna has great potential but other than late against wales the role he plays hasn’t been needed. He’s going to become but is not yet the stud many are wishing he is.

Prior to WC I wanted to see heavy dose of Reyna even with pulisic at the 9 and Reyna and weah on the wide. Wright who was brought on was brought on a berhalter whim bc of his production in the Turkish league and at that spot you can take some chances bc there isn’t much he can do to hurt the team. Reyna in the mf in a tight match may cost us on the defensive end. He is a light player. I think people are ready for the next step but Reyna this year isn’t the answer he’s just a convenient outlet for frustration.
 

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Really like Reyna. Dude is going to be good. I kind of get why he’s coming off the bench though.

Have to play McKennie, Adams and Musah. Our midfield is our strength. Have to play Pulisic. I think you have to play Weah for quickness. So this leaves the decision of a false 9 with Reyna in middle or traditional st.

If the US had a real killer at st, then makes more sense to start Reyna at CAM and McKennie and Adams in midfield but we don’t have a striker who can create.

Albeit, I also like idea of bringing Musah and McKennie up to box with Reyna in false 9 and Pulisic and Weah cutting inside. I think that makes more sense vs Netherlands than Iran
Really kind of bummed to see Sargeant go off yesterday; thought he was having as good a game from the STK position as we've seen for some time.

Here's the problem with Reyna...with Dortmund he has been something of an inverted winger mostly on the rightside of a great--and deep--Dortmund attack, feeding combinations of Erling Haaland and Marco Reus for goals. Reyna is wildly creative by the American standard and is the most raw talented attacker we probably have ever produced and possesses three or four of the most spectacular goals scored by an American in Europe...but who do you take off for him? Weah who is the embodiment of someone who elevates his game in the American shirt and has truly been a constant throughout WCQ...a Weah who peels back well defensively? Obviously Pulisic as the Left wing who is lethal with his slaloming runs and among the more fouled attackers per minute in the EPL if not CONCACAF? Pulling McKennie makes that MMA midfield vastly different and McKennie is alot like Weah...when there has been a big match for the USMNT McKennie elevates his game in a very noticeable way. Beyond all that...All of those players and Aaronson played a substantial amount of minutes together through WCQ and Gio didn't because of his injuries subsequently he wasn't there in a physical capacity.

I keep coming back to this because Weah and Reyna are the two players I watched most with the USYNT as U17 and U20 players--but this pronouncement of USMNT fans saying "put them at the 9 or False 9" never saw the disasters that both were when they tried that very thing. Reyna drops way too deep to get on the ball and when he gets it in the channels the last thing he is thinking is laying it off to a runner or making a pass--he takes on the world; Weah can't stand waiting for the ball and his runs behind lines invariably come off of a 9 holding CBs. And beyond that think of the number of highlights during WCQ and even in the first three WC matches that have a Weah cross attached to it. That goes by the boards if he's solo up top. I can foresee a day a couple years down the road if we are in Copa America or something like that where we'd have Reyna at the top of a Diamond midfield above McKennie/Musah as dual 8s above Adams...but you'd be playing Pulisic sort of out of position up top and something we haven't really seen in the last two years is that Pulisic and Reyna sort of look like Stephen Gerrard and Frank Lampard; historically great and part of the same generational pool, but not complimentary talents.
 
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Really kind of bummed to see Sargeant go off yesterday; thought he was having as good a game from the STK position as we've seen for some time.

Here's the problem with Reyna...with Dortmund he has been something of an inverted winger mostly on the rightside of a great--and deep--Dortmund attack, feeding combinations of Erling Haaland and Marco Reus for goals. Reyna is wildly creative by the American standard and is the most raw talented attacker we probably have ever produced and possesses three or four of the most spectacular goals scored by an American in Europe...but who do you take off for him? Weah who is the embodiment of someone who elevates his game in the American shirt and has truly been a constant throughout WCQ...a Weah who peels back well defensively? Obviously Pulisic as the Left wing who is lethal with his slaloming runs and among the more fouled attackers per minute in the EPL if not CONCACAF? Pulling McKennie makes that MMA midfield vastly different and McKennie is alot like Weah...when there has been a big match for the USMNT McKennie elevates his game in a very noticeable way. Beyond all that...All of those players and Aaronson played a substantial amount of minutes together through WCQ and Gio didn't because of his injuries subsequently he wasn't there in a physical capacity.
Anybody can feed Haaland for goals. NBD.
 

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Dutch backline is arguably one of best in WC

Dutch forwards are arguably among the best in WC

US has advantage at midfield due to slow old Dutch white guys. I want to believe that but de Jong is better than any US midfielder

Dutch performances have been pretty meh in WC

US has that post-UK beating Florida glow where we think like we are Alabama

Feels a bit like UK vs a top 15 SEC team. We are going down with a fight
 

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US has advantage at midfield due to slow old Dutch white guys. I want to believe that but de Jong is better than any US midfielder

Dutch performances have been pretty meh in WC
There is a compelling argument to be made that de Jong is reputed to be better, but in reality isn't in this World Cup better than any of the three of MMA.

It isn't an understatement to say that Tyler Adams has been great. It's a little disconcerting though what happens to the MM portion of the MMA midfield after the 70 minute mark so far. Also now that you are in the Knockout stage that virtually mandates different substitution usage; your PK takers have to be on the field still don't they? Who would ours be? Musah notoriously missed his in the Copa del Ray.
 

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Really kind of bummed to see Sargeant go off yesterday; thought he was having as good a game from the STK position as we've seen for some time.

Here's the problem with Reyna...with Dortmund he has been something of an inverted winger mostly on the rightside of a great--and deep--Dortmund attack, feeding combinations of Erling Haaland and Marco Reus for goals. Reyna is wildly creative by the American standard and is the most raw talented attacker we probably have ever produced and possesses three or four of the most spectacular goals scored by an American in Europe...but who do you take off for him? Weah who is the embodiment of someone who elevates his game in the American shirt and has truly been a constant throughout WCQ...a Weah who peels back well defensively? Obviously Pulisic as the Left wing who is lethal with his slaloming runs and among the more fouled attackers per minute in the EPL if not CONCACAF? Pulling McKennie makes that MMA midfield vastly different and McKennie is alot like Weah...when there has been a big match for the USMNT McKennie elevates his game in a very noticeable way. Beyond all that...All of those players and Aaronson played a substantial amount of minutes together through WCQ and Gio didn't because of his injuries subsequently he wasn't there in a physical capacity.

I keep coming back to this because Weah and Reyna are the two players I watched most with the USYNT as U17 and U20 players--but this pronouncement of USMNT fans saying "put them at the 9 or False 9" never saw the disasters that both were when they tried that very thing. Reyna drops way too deep to get on the ball and when he gets it in the channels the last thing he is thinking is laying it off to a runner or making a pass--he takes on the world; Weah can't stand waiting for the ball and his runs behind lines invariably come off of a 9 holding CBs. And beyond that think of the number of highlights during WCQ and even in the first three WC matches that have a Weah cross attached to it. That goes by the boards if he's solo up top. I can foresee a day a couple years down the road if we are in Copa America or something like that where we'd have Reyna at the top of a Diamond midfield above McKennie/Musah as dual 8s above Adams...but you'd be playing Pulisic sort of out of position up top and something we haven't really seen in the last two years is that Pulisic and Reyna sort of look like Stephen Gerrard and Frank Lampard; historically great and part of the same generational pool, but not complimentary talents.
Really kind of bummed to see Sargeant go off yesterday; thought he was having as good a game from the STK position as we've seen for some time.

Here's the problem with Reyna...with Dortmund he has been something of an inverted winger mostly on the rightside of a great--and deep--Dortmund attack, feeding combinations of Erling Haaland and Marco Reus for goals. Reyna is wildly creative by the American standard and is the most raw talented attacker we probably have ever produced and possesses three or four of the most spectacular goals scored by an American in Europe...but who do you take off for him? Weah who is the embodiment of someone who elevates his game in the American shirt and has truly been a constant throughout WCQ...a Weah who peels back well defensively? Obviously Pulisic as the Left wing who is lethal with his slaloming runs and among the more fouled attackers per minute in the EPL if not CONCACAF? Pulling McKennie makes that MMA midfield vastly different and McKennie is alot like Weah...when there has been a big match for the USMNT McKennie elevates his game in a very noticeable way. Beyond all that...All of those players and Aaronson played a substantial amount of minutes together through WCQ and Gio didn't because of his injuries subsequently he wasn't there in a physical capacity.

I keep coming back to this because Weah and Reyna are the two players I watched most with the USYNT as U17 and U20 players--but this pronouncement of USMNT fans saying "put them at the 9 or False 9" never saw the disasters that both were when they tried that very thing. Reyna drops way too deep to get on the ball and when he gets it in the channels the last thing he is thinking is laying it off to a runner or making a pass--he takes on the world; Weah can't stand waiting for the ball and his runs behind lines invariably come off of a 9 holding CBs. And beyond that think of the number of highlights during WCQ and even in the first three WC matches that have a Weah cross attached to it. That goes by the boards if he's solo up top. I can foresee a day a couple years down the road if we are in Copa America or something like that where we'd have Reyna at the top of a Diamond midfield above McKennie/Musah as dual 8s above Adams...but you'd be playing Pulisic sort of out of position up top and something we haven't really seen in the last two years is that Pulisic and Reyna sort of look like Stephen Gerrard and Frank Lampard; historically great and part of the same generational pool, but not complimentary talents.
I think the US needs more of that.
Very easily could have gone 0-0-3 which would have gotten us eliminated.

I always think pressure is the great equalizer in sports. Press a basketball team, changes things. Pressure a quarterback, changes things. Pressure someone on the back nine at the masters, changes things.

For a long time in my opinion the USMNT has had a lot of meaningless possession. Possess the ball, only to give it away and then the other team advances and does something positive. Lots of low scoring games and fighting for draws. That style of play might work in CONCACAF, but probably not in a WC. Yes we made it to the knockout round, but we are going to have to score at least 2 goals to eliminate anybody from here on.
 

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For a long time in my opinion the USMNT has had a lot of meaningless possession. Possess the ball, only to give it away and then the other team advances and does something positive. Lots of low scoring games and fighting for draws. That style of play might work in CONCACAF, but probably not in a WC. Yes we made it to the knockout round, but we are going to have to score at least 2 goals to eliminate anybody from here on.
I remember back to 2014 against Belgium thinking it was some roper dope strategy where we immediately kicked or cleared the ball back to the Belgians for 120 minutes; it led to a record setting performance from Howard and as a son of a father who generally endures that sort of withering assault on goal as a GK for his HS it's one I'd just as soon never see from the US.

This is a very different pool that 2014 and certainly the Couva disaster culimination to the WCQ cycle for 2017. I don't get that sense at all given the nature of how we handled England; our midfield funnels attacks to the wings and upon possession off of counterpressing we appear to have a constructed quick attack.
 

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Ticos getting screwed by these female officials. The woman in the center is terrible. Has no business in a mens WC. She is very nervous
 

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Did Spain just duck playing Croatia on purpose and screw Germany over in the process?
 

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Did Spain just duck playing Croatia on purpose and screw Germany over in the process?
The second goal for Japan looked like it resulted from a play where the ball completely crossed the endline before the Japanese player got to it and passed it to his teammate right in front of the goal. I mean, one of the replays was from a great angle and it certainly looked completely over the line, which is the rule. The entirety of the ball has to cross over.

The video won't embed for some reason, but here's the link.

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/play-6101530be001519
 

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The second goal for Japan looked like it resulted from a play where the ball completely crossed the endline before the Japanese player got to it and passed it to his teammate right in front of the goal. I mean, one of the replays was from a great angle and it certainly looked completely over the line, which is the rule. The entirety of the ball has to cross over.

The video won't embed for some reason, but here's the link.

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/play-6101530be001519

I see some green there. Either way, that was a ridiculous save and even more absurd to get it to a teammate to score.
 

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I ask cause I've been out and about so I didn't see the noon games just the morning ones and on paper that is what looks like.
 

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The second goal for Japan looked like it resulted from a play where the ball completely crossed the endline before the Japanese player got to it and passed it to his teammate right in front of the goal. I mean, one of the replays was from a great angle and it certainly looked completely over the line, which is the rule. The entirety of the ball has to cross over.

The video won't embed for some reason, but here's the link.

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/play-6101530be001519

I see some green there. Either way, that was a ridiculous save and even more absurd to get it to a teammate to score.
The ball was in. Doesn't matter if there was green in between the ball and the endline. The whole of the ball needs to be over the whole of the line.

Here's a really good image of it


And a great illustration of how it could look clearly out and still be in.

 

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The ball was in. Doesn't matter if there was green in between the ball and the endline. The whole of the ball needs to be over the whole of the line.

Here's a really good image of it


And a great illustration of how it could look clearly out and still be in.



I hadn't seen the overhead angle before. Wow. It's good that the play continued till completion.
 

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Not sure why we don’t play a 3-1-3-1-2-1. Take the goalie out and let’s play 11 on 10.
 

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Those Mexicant’s and Hosers sure did talk a lot of **** about the US leading up to the WC.

Suck it losers.
 

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Been a pretty interesting WC so far.
Belgium gone.
Mexico gone...YAYYYY
And for a brief moment yesterday, Spain and Germany were bye bye.
 

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He may be their best player right now, too. While it sucks teams are getting sick, will happily take any advantage for the US to keep advancing. That and I want to see the US in the F4 so Chumps head explodes.
 

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I would hate to be a midfielder coming off or having any respiratory problems to play against this US midfield; they are withering even if you were completely healthy.

...if it is flu one more strike against a Winter World Cup.
 
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The sustained drama of the World Cup is unmatched. Freakin love it.
 

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Uruguay players going nuts, grabbing the refs. Tough to win and still lose.