You are correct he was never down on the ground. Trouble with that is, that was never the argument. Keep telling yourself what ever makes you feel good. Like I said. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans.Cruz wasnt down. You do know a knee or elbow has to touch.
I have never understood why a coach would cuss a ref. When I coached youth I never once said anything bad to a ref. I may say “hey man watch for so in so he’s holding my kids” and would get a call. But I’ve seen others cuss and call refs all kinda names and never get a call. I know there’s a big difference between pee wee and high school (more at stake) but these are the same refs that ref on Friday nights. They have a job to doMy dad was a football official for over 25 years. Dad told me stories through the years of bad calls he and others on his crew made. Not to mention the time he wasn't quick enough to avoid a sweep to the sideline and ended up with a broken leg. They are doing the best you can in a hostile environment and these aren't paid professionals. There is a real shortage of guys willing to go out on the field, risk physical harm and take that kind of abuse from coaches, players and fans. Of course there are bad calls, and sometimes those calls can affect the outcome of games. The biggest problem I have is a culture of dogging referees all night. I hear it from some Tarboro folks in the stands when the Vikings are ahead 42-0 and the clock is running. Say what you will, being a high school football official is a calling. You don't do it because it pays well. You do it because you love the game and you are trying to contribute something. It is truly embarrassing how people that claim to love HS school football are so quick to hammer on the officials. They aren't perfect, but they don't deserve to be reviled. If anything, they deserve your thanks.
I'm not protesting this thread mind you, but I just ask that you show some respect. Everything posted so far is cool. This is just an itch I needed to scratch I guess.
You are correct he was never down on the ground. Trouble with that is, that was never the argument. Keep telling yourself what ever makes you feel good. Like I said. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
Having watched Cruz his whole HS career, he moved many a pile like that. In saying that I’m sure those refs called many of his games as well and seen it too. The pile never stopped so no whistle, hence his ability to break out and score. Did the same thing to Plymouth and N. Henderson.You are correct he was never down on the ground. Trouble with that is, that was never the argument. Keep telling yourself what ever makes you feel good. Like I said. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
I'm sorry mr perfect I see now I used the word "down".. but you obviously know what play I'm talking about and everyone knew what I meant. Agree to disagree is all we can do. I hope I didn't upset you.You said the runner was down now you said he was never down.
Which way you going with it?
Great post. I tryed calling football and I don’t care how much you think you know setting in the bleachers. It a whole different view on the field. It’s almost impossible to see Everyhing that goes on ever play.My dad was a football official for over 25 years. Dad told me stories through the years of bad calls he and others on his crew made. Not to mention the time he wasn't quick enough to avoid a sweep to the sideline and ended up with a broken leg. They are doing the best you can in a hostile environment and these aren't paid professionals. There is a real shortage of guys willing to go out on the field, risk physical harm and take that kind of abuse from coaches, players and fans. Of course there are bad calls, and sometimes those calls can affect the outcome of games. The biggest problem I have is a culture of dogging referees all night. I hear it from some Tarboro folks in the stands when the Vikings are ahead 42-0 and the clock is running. Say what you will, being a high school football official is a calling. You don't do it because it pays well. You do it because you love the game and you are trying to contribute something. It is truly embarrassing how people that claim to love HS school football are so quick to hammer on the officials. They aren't perfect, but they don't deserve to be reviled. If anything, they deserve your thanks.
I'm not protesting this thread mind you, but I just ask that you show some respect. Everything posted so far is cool. This is just an itch I needed to scratch I guess.
Worst call in the history of football....and there was no mistake about it.1983 - Clarence Pressley - Robbinsville at Rosman
Is this the whistle call or another?
That same ref hasn’t gotten any better I promise!During a game with Robbinsville at Smoky Mountain in 2014 or 15, I can't remember now. The side judge ran into a reporter on the SM sideline who was from Robbinsville taking pictures. The ref fell down and flagged me saying I was who he ran into. I was not. I pointed to the camera man as he slithered down the sideline to the other side. That same ref was the one accused of wrongdoing with Franklin.