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I wouldn't want to be in the ACC for any reason whatsoever.

Having to deal with a "basketball rules" mentality, been there, done that. Don't want Tobacco Road and I've never been happier to go to WVU games playing the Big XII murderers row every year..

VPI is a school I always liked playing. Beamer and Weaver stopped the series.
 

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Texas has a history of running off other schools. A&M, Arkansas, CU, NU, and MU all got out of dodge as fast as they could once they had a safe landing place. Texas was a large reason each left.

Other than OU, the rest of the schools in the Big 12 are only there because no one else wants them.
 

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Texas has a history of running off other schools. A&M, Arkansas, CU, NU, and MU all got out of dodge as fast as they could once they had a safe landing place. Texas was a large reason each left.

Other than OU, the rest of the schools in the Big 12 are only there because no one else wants them.
That is one opinion I guess.
 

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Just saying, it has to be the least stable P5 conference. Yea, the ACC lost MD, but the Big 12 lost 4 teams, and the 4 that left are prestigious AAU schools (not sure about Nebraska) with big time athletic programs. You don't see other conferences have schools running like hell to leave.

I think the the Big 12 is fine for WVU in the interim, but I'm hoping the leaders at our school are positioning us for a good landing spot if/ when the Big 12 blows up.
 

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I wouldn't want to be in the ACC for any reason whatsoever.

Having to deal with a "basketball rules" mentality, been there, done that. Don't want Tobacco Road and I've never been happier to go to WVU games playing the Big XII murderers row every year..

VPI is a school I always liked playing. Beamer and Weaver stopped the series.
Spot on. The ACC ship has left port and is not coming back. There are only three schools in the ACC where football is a true priority - FSU, Clemson and VT. Football is the priority in each B12 school except for KU.
 

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Hi Blufield EER I saw your post on a visit to this site tonight. I had to respond because Football is a major concern at Kansas too. Please don't forget that Kansas has hired 3 coaches in what about 6 years trying to find the right one. The University has spent a lot of money on buy outs for bad hires recently,but it's trying hard to find a good coach. Kansas also has been working on plans for an expensive Stadium upgrade. Kansas will be doing a Stadium upgrade in a few years,maybe. Yesterday Kansas added another respected and known coach to it's staff. Kansas has interest in the football program. I'm going on record now despite last year this will be the staff that fixes it in a few years.
 

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Hi Blufield EER I saw your post on a visit to this site tonight. I had to respond because Football is a major concern at Kansas too. Please don't forget that Kansas has hired 3 coaches in what about 6 years trying to find the right one. The University has spent a lot of money on buy outs for bad hires recently,but it's trying hard to find a good coach. Kansas also has been working on plans for an expensive Stadium upgrade. Kansas will be doing a Stadium upgrade in a few years,maybe. Yesterday Kansas added another respected and known coach to it's staff. Kansas has interest in the football program. I'm going on record now despite last year this will be the staff that fixes it in a few years.
I would bet on Kansas turning it around before Pitt or Syracuse, or Boston College or... Better fan support, more money, better football conference.
 

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Without question, the Big 12 is the P5 conference in the most precarious position. That only becomes a factor though if the P5 consolidates into a P4.

For whatever reasons, the schools in the broad Southwest have always been in shifting alignment. Even the original Big 12 was a marriage of convenience.

3 of the 4 schools that left the Big 12 after it formed, came from the old Big 8. Only Texas A&M was among the SWC schools absorbed into the Big 12, but the early and recent history of schools in that broad region shows change has been the one constant.

If you look at all the schools that played in either the SWC or the Big 8 during the modern era, Arkansas, Houston, Rice, SMU, Houston, Texas A&M, Nebraska, Colorado and Missouri now play somewhere other than the Big 12. Additionally, OSU was in both the SWC and Big 8, and TCU played in the WAC, CUSA and the MWC in addition to joining (but never playing in) the Big East after the SWC collapsed.

Whether this means anything is debatable, but over the past 100 years Baylor is the only school that has been in the same conference with Texas the entire time.
 

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I would bet on Kansas turning it around before Pitt or Syracuse, or Boston College or... Better fan support, more money, better football conference.

I'd take you up on that bet any day. And Pitt is turning it around, in case you didn't notice they finished with a better record than us. Plus they actually played their close in their losses to good teams, unlike us. This is after they lost their all american RB to injury and illness.
 

skygusty_rivals

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I'd take you up on that bet any day. And Pitt is turning it around, in case you didn't notice they finished with a better record than us. Plus they actually played their close in their losses to good teams, unlike us. This is after they lost their all american RB to injury and illness.
Well it is a long road. Kansas has loads of untapped potential. I would neither count them out or be too sanguine about Pitt's long term trajectory. Lets review the subject again in 10 years. My preference would be for Kansas to improve. I could not care less what happens to Pitt or whether they have a good year or a bad year.
 
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Well it is a long road. Kansas has loads of untapped potential. I would neither count them out or be too sanguine about Pitt's long term trajectory. Lets review the subject again in 10 years. My preference would be for Kansas to improve. I could not care less what happens to Pitt or whether they have a good year or a bad year.

Kansas is a Top 25 athletic department in terms of revenue with about $100 million. With that much money you can't count them out especially if they renovate their stadium. Pitt had an easy schedule this year - don't expect them to repeat next season. Plus the fan support is awful even with their success this year.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article9761414.html
 
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