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Ccm1987

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Brian Cole has committed!! Will most likely redshirt this year unless granted a hardship waiver. Will have 3 years of eligibility left! Big pickup!
 
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oboroCATfan

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I would guess the chances for a hardship waiver are probably zero but either way he looks like a fantastic pickup for the future.
 
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Mr Schwump

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Pretty sure UK is on the NCAA's "no hardship waiver, ever, under any circumstances" list.

Isn't he from Michigan anyway? If hardship was an issue he should've stayed there.

But to your point...next time the NCAA makes a favorable ruling re UK will be the first. The NCAA, however, ALWAYS looks out for the best interests of the student-athlete.
 

Deeeefense

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He has to sit but get's three years, but could get a medical redshirt at the end.
 

Saguaro Cat

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Is he going to be able to practice this spring? I think it's too late to enroll for this semester.
 

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Starting to get excited again! I think though now through the coaching hires and the $$$ that is pouring in from some young (that I Know personally) men! We are in the best position to make a serious move up! Up meaning 7-10 win seasons in next 5 years! It will not be easy though but it is more possible now than it ever has been!
 
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seccats04

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Awesome! We could use him as a 6-2 200 4.4 WR or a headhunting safety. Let's just hope he doesn't go down Marcelys Jones' path and ruin a second chance. We aren't like Unlimited Chance U, 64 miles west.
 

vhcat70

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Awesome! We could use him as a 6-2 200 4.4 WR or a headhunting safety. Let's just hope he doesn't go down Marcelys Jones' path and ruin a second chance. We aren't like Unlimited Chance U, 64 miles west.
Why bring up BC in the context of MJ's issues? Tell us all you know to even imply a comparison. Thanks.
 

Blue Decade

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Awesome! We could use him as a 6-2 200 4.4 WR or a headhunting safety. Let's just hope he doesn't go down Marcelys Jones' path and ruin a second chance. We aren't like Unlimited Chance U, 64 miles west.
Don't see comparison between Jones and Cole, or between Cole and UL players. Why not compare Cole to Courtney Love and Greg Hart? Stoops is getting a lot of transfers from Big 10 programs. My suspicion is this has been in the works for a while, and explains why Stoops took 3 corners but no safeties in our 2016 recruiting class.
 

The_Oak

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Awesome news, no clue why he parted ways with Michigan, but I'm glad we got him.
 
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TJS4UK

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Don't see comparison between Jones and Cole, or between Cole and UL players. Why not compare Cole to Courtney Love and Greg Hart? Stoops is getting a lot of transfers from Big 10 programs. My suspicion is this has been in the works for a while, and explains why Stoops took 3 corners but no safeties in our 2016 recruiting class.

Good post, but I do want to point out that according to the UK coaches, Gilliam was recruited as a safety (although they said they that he may play some Nickel).

Landing Cole is some really good news
 
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Los Gatos

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He has to sit but get's three years, but could get a medical redshirt at the end.

A medical redshirt to do what? Can't see he could possibly get more than three year of eligibility as he has already played one. Do you mean six to play four years? Didn't the NCAA already change the rule re hardship waivers to allow six to play four?
 
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Los Gatos

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Is he going to be able to practice this spring? I think it's too late to enroll for this semester.

Seems unlikely he could practice this spring. I also think it's too last to enroll for the spring semester. In addition, he would have to obtain a release from his LOI from Mich. Far as I know he was released from scholarship, didn't hear anything about a release from LOI.
 

TJS4UK

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247 claims that the decision hasn't been made whether Cole will play Safety or WR.

Also, it's too late for him to enroll, so he won't be able to practice with the team this spring.

Regarding the hardship waiver... The way that I understand it, you now have to sit out a year, irregardless of your circumstances. However, if you have already used up a RS, you can petition to get that RS year back. It works similar to a player that has to RS twice due to an injury. Not 100% certain, but that is the way that I have heard it explained.
 

seccats04

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Don't see comparison between Jones and Cole, or between Cole and UL players. Why not compare Cole to Courtney Love and Greg Hart? Stoops is getting a lot of transfers from Big 10 programs. My suspicion is this has been in the works for a while, and explains why Stoops took 3 corners but no safeties in our 2016 recruiting class.
Cole was released from his scholly because he broke team rules several times and Harbaugh is a no nonsense coach according to UM boards. Jones was released from two different schools so all I was saying was I hope he doesn't turn out similarly. Jones may end up at UL if he ever gets a felony charge.
 

Deeeefense

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A medical redshirt to do what? Can't see he could possibly get more than three year of eligibility as he has already played one. Do you mean six to play four years? Didn't the NCAA already change the rule re hardship waivers to allow six to play four?

As a 2015 player that played one year he has 4 more years to play three.
However he played early in only 3 games I believe last season. It's not clear if he was benched due to disciplinary action or an injury. If an injury he could apply for a an extra year after his normal eligibility is up (medical redhshirt) which would make it a total of 4 years.

This has nothing to do with the hardship rule which changed. the hardship rule allowed players to play immediately after a transfer if due to a personal hardship. That rule changed which makes this all but impossible now.
 

Blue Decade

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Good post, but I do want to point out that according to the UK coaches, Gilliam was recruited as a safety (although they said they that he may play some Nickel).

Landing Cole is some really good news
I got a different understanding about Gilliam. On signing day, Stoops discussed Gilliam as a nickel and a special teams player. Safety was not mentioned by Stoops or Eliot. Every other reference I can find refers to Gilliam as a cornerback prospect. Nebraska, Pitt, and W. Virginia offered Gilliam as a corner. Gilliam is big enough to play safety if the coaches decide to develop him that way, but he is noted for having flexible hips and cover skills of a corner. With Quinn, Tiller, and Hytchye gone, and Harmon and McClain becoming seniors, Stoops may be reloading corners and nickels. He has only McWilson, Edwards, West, and Walker at safety. Cole won't be eligible until after his transfer redshirt.
 
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hmt5000

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As a 2015 player that played one year he has 4 more years to play three.
However he played early in only 3 games I believe last season. It's not clear if he was benched due to disciplinary action or an injury. If an injury he could apply for a an extra year after his normal eligibility is up (medical redhshirt) which would make it a total of 4 years.

This has nothing to do with the hardship rule which changed. the hardship rule allowed players to play immediately after a transfer if due to a personal hardship. That rule changed which makes this all but impossible now.
i think he just got passed up on O so that was why he moved to S. supposedly he was blowing people up in the run up to their bowl game and was expected to be a major contributor on D this year.
 

RV

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I got a different understanding about Gilliam. On signing day, Stoops discussed Gilliam as a nickel and a special teams player. Safety was not mentioned By Stoops' or Eliot's. Every other reference I can find refers to Gilliam as a cornerback prospect. Nebraska, Pitt, and W. Virginia offered Gilliam as a corner. Gilliam is big enough to play safety if the coaches decide to develop him that way, but he is noted for having flexible hips and cover skills of a corner. With Quinn, Tiller, and Hytchye gone, and Harmon and McClain becoming seniors, Stoops may be reloading corners and nickels. He has only McWilson, Edwards, West, and Walker at safety. Cole won't be eligible until after his transfer redshirt.

The only thing I can find in Stoops presser regarding the DB's was about Robinson and Griffin where he said "Him (Davonte) and Jordan Griffin, I think it's so important to get those corners, those talented guys. Everybody comes after them and battles for those corners till the very last second." He didn't mention Gilliam when referencing the corners.

In Ansley's interview he said it was like they signed more than 3 DB's as Gilliam can play Nickel and inside (meaning both safety positions) so it was like they had guys that could play all 5 positions.

Gilliam will likely settle in at Strong Safety.
 

hmt5000

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just watched cole's hs highlights and we may not want to use ink to put him on D. i would say pencil him in at S but he could very well play wr for us. that dude is a load for a wr. he looked like a faster dorian baker in hs. doesn't really have wiggle and kinda reminded me of anquan bolden as what he could develop into.

didn't show a lot of highlights on D but the ones it did show... if he hit you on the sideline you landed about 5 yards out of bounds. he hit like truck. lol
 

CloverforkCat

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I believe Cole goes back to his natural WR position, we are pretty stacked with DB's, and we lose Baker, Johnson, and Badet after the 2017 season.
 

Los Gatos

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As a 2015 player that played one year he has 4 more years to play three.
However he played early in only 3 games I believe last season. It's not clear if he was benched due to disciplinary action or an injury. If an injury he could apply for a an extra year after his normal eligibility is up (medical redhshirt) which would make it a total of 4 years.

This has nothing to do with the hardship rule which changed. the hardship rule allowed players to play immediately after a transfer if due to a personal hardship. That rule changed which makes this all but impossible now.

Thanks for the explanation. However, this is the first i heard that he may have been injured.

My understanding is that he will now have five to play three. The first year he must sit out so it becomes four to play three. And yes this does have something to do with the hardship rule changing. Under the old rule he would start with four to play three. After sitting out a year it would be three to play three. After the hardship rule change he ends up with four to play three.
 

Poetax

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A medical redshirt to do what? Can't see he could possibly get more than three year of eligibility as he has already played one. Do you mean six to play four years? Didn't the NCAA already change the rule re hardship waivers to allow six to play four?

Cole mentioned that he and Stoops discussed the possibility of a medical redshirt, not sure what his situation was but Cole talks about it in a article on him.
 

jauk11

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Hopefully he doesn't have any injury problems and plays to his considerable potential so he only plays here a couple of years, without making a dumb early entry. Best for everyone, much moolah for him and better records and reputation for us.
 
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Blue Decade

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The only thing I can find in Stoops presser regarding the DB's was about Robinson and Griffin where he said "Him (Davonte) and Jordan Griffin, I think it's so important to get those corners, those talented guys. Everybody comes after them and battles for those corners till the very last second." He didn't mention Gilliam when referencing the corners.

In Ansley's interview he said it was like they signed more than 3 DB's as Gilliam can play Nickel and inside (meaning both safety positions) so it was like they had guys that could play all 5 positions.

Gilliam will likely settle in at Strong Safety.
I thought I had a different recollection but I will gladly take your word for this. I don't have any concerns about Gilliam's physical size and other attributes to play at safety. He could handle it if he is the kind of kid who can get low and absorb hits on every snap. But Nebraska, Pitt, and West Virginia apparently recruited him as a corner because of his cover skills. I clearly remember a Kentucky coach saying Gilliam will start out as a nickel and ST player. I thought it was Stoops, but maybe it was Eliot or Marrow. There is no question that we are a little things now at safety.
 

3kidsandme

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I thought I had a different recollection but I will gladly take your word for this. I don't have any concerns about Gilliam's physical size and other attributes to play at safety. He could handle it if he is the kind of kid who can get low and absorb hits on every snap. But Nebraska, Pitt, and West Virginia apparently recruited him as a corner because of his cover skills. I clearly remember a Kentucky coach saying Gilliam will start out as a nickel and ST player. I thought it was Stoops, but maybe it was Eliot or Marrow. There is no question that we are a little things now at safety.
It was Ansley who said he is a nickel type. Ansley compared him to Blake mclain. Ansley also said signing him was like signing 3 guys. Gilliam can play nickel or either safety spot. Ansley did say Gilliam would start out at nickel.