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hmt5000

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I agree. one more WR makes sense considering we basically have 7 guys that will be juniors this year. We Dont want to have to replace that many seniors with freshman on 2 years
Plus we did rs 2 wrs last year. Ross has 3 years left and a couple good looking prospects in the freshman class. Might rs one of them I think. We still have talent behind that big Jr class.
 
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CATFANFOLIFE87

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More power to you if you think a 4* just about anything contributes as much to success as a 4* DT.
Hudson is probably the best defensive line the school has ever gained a commitment from. One of the other recruits that is close to committing is Alex King. The guy is an elite athlete/pass rushing DE
 

Beatle Bum

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More power to you if you think a 4* just about anything contributes as much to success as a 4* DT.

(1) people should question the guy who pretends there is something negative about every good piece of news.

(2) It is illogical to talk about DTs when UK gets a commitment from a four star athlete unless you think a class of ONLY 3-4 DTs would be a good class for UK in 2017. If you admit the class needs other recruits, your harping now about DTs makes no sense.
 

vhcat70

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Hudson is probably the best defensive line the school has ever gained a commitment from. One of the other recruits that is close to committing is Alex King. The guy is an elite athlete/pass rushing DE
No idea why you quoted me for this. I don't disagree that he's topnotch.

But now tell me about our DT commits - the positions I commented on. Thanks.
 

vhcat70

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(1) people should question the guy who pretends there is something negative about every good piece of news.

(2) It is illogical to talk about DTs when UK gets a commitment from a four star athlete unless you think a class of ONLY 3-4 DTs would be a good class for UK in 2017. If you admit the class needs other recruits, your harping now about DTs makes no sense.
It's never illogical to talk DT's. 3-4 4* DT's & you can fill rest in with 3*'s & have a great class.

Pretend? EVERY piece of good news?
 

CATFANFOLIFE87

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No idea why you quoted me for this. I don't disagree that he's topnotch.

But now tell me about our DT commits - the positions I commented on. Thanks.
You're living in fairy tale if you think we are ever going to be able to land 3-4 four star DT's. There are only ever 15-20 four star DT's in a class and they are damn near all in the backyard of Texas, LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, ect. The powerhouse programs in those areas have a death grip on those players and the schools that produce them. They are paid for a delivered so good luck ever being happy if that's the standard you've set for this staff. We have the best DL on paper that the school has ever had. Do you watch the tape on the recruits? Watch Bohanna, Looney, Miggins, and Cross on tape and tell me that they aren't a completely different level of athlete than we've ever gotten here. Can we recruit the position better than we have? Yes and that can be said for every position. We can still win a lot of games with the guys we have in the program now though
 
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UKSanders_rivals37733

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The Provitt kid from OH originally is another very good JUCO DT we might get for 3 years if he plays well and makes his grades after a redshirt season. IMHO, we're sitting better early with DL recruits for 2017 than most years in the past.

Can't believe I completely forgot about Provitt. I can't normally evaluate DL (especially DTs) from film, but this kid just looked explosive on film... super quick and strong. I would be completely content with a yearly DL class (on paper) of athletes who appear to be the quality of:

Bohanna
Hudson
Provitt

Now,
1) Provitt needs to be eligible,
2) He needs to commit to UK,
3) Stoops & Co need to keep these guys on board
4) One more jumbo DE/DT wouldn't hurt my feelings
 

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Still a lot of work to do to get them from committed to signed. Kentucky is one school that could really benefit from an early signing period in football.
 
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Hudson is probably the best defensive line the school has ever gained a commitment from. One of the other recruits that is close to committing is Alex King. The guy is an elite athlete/pass rushing DE


REALLY need this guy. Know that Tennessee wants him. This is definitely the type of Dlineman we need
 

greginky1957

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Hudson is probably the best defensive line the school has ever gained a commitment from. One of the other recruits that is close to committing is Alex King. The guy is an elite athlete/pass rushing DE

So you must be talking about the era of number of stars, because I cannot imagine him being better than Art Still
 
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Beatle Bum

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Does Richardson rank as one of the highest rated players to verbally commit to UK under Stoops?

If so, we should probably begin a discussion here about the value of a good kicker.
 

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Just watched his JR season HUDL - I retract any comments/concerns I had regarding his speed. To me, he looks way more explosive than his sophomore season (not surprisingly, but encouraging nonetheless).

Appears to be a great pickup... anyone know if he has a "recruiter" mentality a la Drake Jackson and Drew Barker to bring in talent to play with them?

Do you think DL just fall out of the sky.. Some of you guys think this staff just ignores DL ... Unbelievable... Really...
 
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DL are probably the hardest to find and sigh, at least ones that can make an impact. If we sign quality defensive lineman it's usually a homeboy that grew up following us.
 

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It's never illogical to talk DT's. 3-4 4* DT's & you can fill rest in with 3*'s & have a great class.

Pretend? EVERY piece of good news?
V . . . it is (illogical) when the conversation has nothing to do with DTs. And even more so Especially when everyone else recognizes the intent of the thread is to celebrate the other subject.

It would be like me walking up to some guy eating a box of Spalding Doughnuts and saying to him . . . "You know what would be better than that . . . a big bowl of biscuits and gravy!"
 

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V . . . it is (illogical) when the conversation has nothing to do with DTs. And even more so Especially when everyone else recognizes the intent of the thread is to celebrate the other subject.

It would be like me walking up to some guy eating a box of Spalding Doughnuts and saying to him . . . "You know what would be better than that . . . a big bowl of biscuits and gravy!"
OK. Expanding the topic of recruiting beyond one player is off limits by those that enforce decorum on the site. Got it. I mean who new how uptight this place is? No deviation allowed. Wow.
 

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Sorry if you disagree but we are still not the kind of program that can turn down a player of this caliber. I'm not sure why fans think that we are not trying to get the best DL prospects. It could be that our record is holding back these kind of players from coming so winning is probably the key.
 
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OK. Expanding the topic of recruiting beyond one player is off limits by those that enforce decorum on the site. Got it. I mean who new how uptight this place is? No deviation allowed. Wow.

We are trying to celebrate a commitment of an extremely high rated receiver, and you threw a wet blanket on it and diverted the celebration portion. Want to talk DT's and recruiting them? Start a new thread. No need to turn a celebratory thread into an argument, which you pretty much have done. Nothing personal, but let everybody celebrate the commitment. If it was a 2-star DT that committed, then you'd have a legit reason to comment such as you are.
 

hmt5000

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so should we only talk about dt recruiting in every thread that comes up? we get a qb commit and we ask if he can hold 300 pounds on his frame and switch to DT? this is the craziest stuff i've seen in a while. dude is the highest rated wr that UK has had committed in a while. #2 player in the state of OH. this deserves it's own thread and deserves to not be minimized by the "get off my lawn" guy.

***** Please watch the language. Thanks. *****
 
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UKSanders_rivals37733

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Do you think DL just fall out of the sky.. Some of you guys think this staff just ignores DL ... Unbelievable... Really...

Not really sure why this is directed at my comment as I was talking about Richardson not a DL. My comment about our DLine recruiting was just a few posts above yours to me.

If you are going to accuse "some of you guys" of being "unbelievable", you may want to read (and understand) what is written.

Otherwise, lack of reading comprehension is what is really "unbelievable".
 

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OK. Expanding the topic of recruiting beyond one player is off limits by those that enforce decorum on the site. Got it. I mean who new how uptight this place is? No deviation allowed. Wow.
Well now you know . . . now lets talk punters, is anyone else concerned we're filling up so early with other position players we may not have room for a good one?
 
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You're living in fairy tale if you think we are ever going to be able to land 3-4 four star DT's. There are only ever 15-20 four star DT's in a class and they are damn near all in the backyard of Texas, LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, ect. The powerhouse programs in those areas have a death grip on those players and the schools that produce them. They are paid for a delivered so good luck ever being happy if that's the standard you've set for this staff. We have the best DL on paper that the school has ever had. Do you watch the tape on the recruits? Watch Bohanna, Looney, Miggins, and Cross on tape and tell me that they aren't a completely different level of athlete than we've ever gotten here. Can we recruit the position better than we have? Yes and that can be said for every position. We can still win a lot of games with the guys we have in the program now though

I would take Corey peters and Myron Pryor over any of those guys you mention.
 
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So....looks like a great commit for the Cats. Or does this completely suck? Can't tell.

This board is strange as hell sometimes. Sentiment and desire understood but holy crap.

Compartmentalization is possible. Good job by the staff on this one.
 

CATFANFOLIFE87

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I would take Corey peters and Myron Pryor over any of those guys you mention.
In hindsight since they've completed their careers that's easy to say. You may not say that 4 years from now when those guys have had a chance to develop and complete their careers here. You have no idea whether they will end up better than Peters and Pryor
 
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In hindsight since they've completed their careers that's easy to say. You may not say that 4 years from now when those guys have had a chance to develop and complete their careers here. You have no idea whether they will end up better than Peters and Pryor
Sure, once I'm a senior in college I'd be happy to reflect on our DL development.
 

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Catfanforlife87 I was being serious on that note. I'm just honestly skeptical at this point.
 

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Myron Pryor was a 2 star whose only other power 5 offer was Indiana. Troll would've crushed Rich Brooks for accepting his commitment if he were posting back then
Wasn't that before Rivals changed how many players they gave 3 stars? You're basically saying you like an unproven low ranked recruit over an already proven low ranked success story. In other words you think betting on the come is good strategy and suggest it as one for Kentucky to follow.
 

CATFANFOLIFE87

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Wasn't that before Rivals changed how many players they gave 3 stars? You're basically saying you like an unproven low ranked recruit over an already proven low ranked success story. In other words you think betting on the come is good strategy and suggest it as one for Kentucky to follow.
No I'm saying that it would be easy for Troll to make a statement like that knowing exactly what Peters and Pryor accomplished at UK. That doesn't make his statement accurate because he can't see the future and has no idea what these other guys are going to achieve before their careers at UK are over. Most of the guys we are recruiting now are more highly sought after than Pryor was coming out of high school. That doesn't guarantee that they will have more success at UK but there is reason to believe that they could
 

jauk11

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Myron Pryor was a 2 star whose only other power 5 offer was Indiana. Troll would've crushed Rich Brooks for accepting his commitment if he were posting back then

IIRC not only was Pryor a two star, he was a 5.2 two star------like a lot of Brooks best players. the 2009 class was the one that had a lot of two stars promoted to three stars, but probably only if they were 5.4 two stars to start with, and I don't think all of them made the jump.