You can order your solar roof today.

[op2]

Note that these aren't solar panels that go atop a roof but rather is a solar roof. So unless you need a new roof anyway you probably won't want one. But if you do need a new roof and if the style they have looks good on your house then go for it. They cost more but then again the idea is that you have lower or non-existence electric bills in perpetuity.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ar-roof-orders-2017-05-10?link=MW_latest_news

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Note that these aren't solar panels that go atop a roof but rather is a solar roof. So unless you need a new roof anyway you probably won't want one. But if you do need a new roof and if the style they have looks good on your house then go for it. They cost more but then again the idea is that you have lower or non-existence electric bills in perpetuity.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ar-roof-orders-2017-05-10?link=MW_latest_news

How long before these are outlawed in WV ... like not being able to buy a Tesla

 

[op2]

How long before these are outlawed in WV ... like not being able to buy a Tesla

It wouldn't surprise me. More solar = less coal, thus ban solar. Sad.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Note that these aren't solar panels that go atop a roof but rather is a solar roof. So unless you need a new roof anyway you probably won't want one. But if you do need a new roof and if the style they have looks good on your house then go for it. They cost more but then again the idea is that you have lower or non-existence electric bills in perpetuity.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ar-roof-orders-2017-05-10?link=MW_latest_news

Too lazy, what is the price?

 

[bamaEER]

How long before these are outlawed in WV ... like not being able to buy a Tesla

That would be a riot. I think they should propose a bill to put solar panels on the WH.

 

[WVPATX]

Note that these aren't solar panels that go atop a roof but rather is a solar roof. So unless you need a new roof anyway you probably won't want one. But if you do need a new roof and if the style they have looks good on your house then go for it. They cost more but then again the idea is that you have lower or non-existence electric bills in perpetuity.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ar-roof-orders-2017-05-10?link=MW_latest_news

I think this is great. And I hope that all the warmists on the board put their money where their mouth is and buy a solar roof to save the planet. I would not suggest doing a simple financial analysis on payback time since the stakes are much higher than pure financials.

 

[op2]

Too lazy, what is the price?

That article didn't have it. But I think I read elsewhere that since the price is higher they may have an option of leasing or leasing to own or something so people won't have to pay such a big chunk at once. And also it probably depends on how big the house is and maybe by region of the country too.

 

[WVPATX]

That article didn't have it. But I think I read elsewhere that since the price is higher they may have an option of leasing or leasing to own or something so people won't have to pay such a big chunk at once. And also it probably depends on how big the house is and maybe by region of the country too.

Why would the price depend on region of the country? Payback certainly would depend on that since the sun must shine for it to work. Sun days in Texas are far more plentiful than sun days in WV, for example. The price would certainly depend on size of the home.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

That article didn't have it. But I think I read elsewhere that since the price is higher they may have an option of leasing or leasing to own or something so people won't have to pay such a big chunk at once. And also it probably depends on how big the house is and maybe by region of the country too.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the lease to own model is illegal in WV already. One company was using that model a lot and you can't do it in WV. You can purchase the panels outright though.

 

[op2]

Why would the price depend on region of the country? Payback certainly would depend on that since the sun must shine for it to work. Sun days in Texas are far more plentiful than sun days in WV, for example. The price would certainly depend on size of the home.

I don't know. I read it somewhere but I don't remember the details.

ETA: But realistically, since this is new it will probably cost a lot. That's how new technologies work. They cost a lot when they're new then when the technology matures things get cheaper. The big screen TV you have in your house would probably have cost 10 times as much 10 years ago.

 

[WVPATX]

I don't know. I read it somewhere but I don't remember the details.

ETA: But realistically, since this is new it will probably cost a lot. That's how new technologies work. They cost a lot when they're new then when the technology matures things get cheaper. The big screen TV you have in your house would probably have cost 10 times as much 10 years ago.

Solar panels are not new. They have been around for decades. They have gotten a bit better, but are still very expensive and I can tell you (I own part of a custom home building business in Texas that specializes in homes 6,000 sq. ft. and greater) that the payback period in our very sunny Texas is around 10 years or more, depending on a few factors (e.g. cost of electricity). Another issue in Texas is that we can choose our electric provider. I do so every year and generally pay in the 7 to 10 cent range/kwh. Thus far, all of our clients have opted to not use panels since financially, they don't make any sense (they can invest in the market instead and earn a better return).

 

[op2]

Solar panels are not new. They have been around for decades. They have gotten a bit better, but are still very expensive and I can tell you (I own part of a custom home building business in Texas that specializes in homes 6,000 sq. ft. and greater) that the payback period in our very sunny Texas is around 10 years or more, depending on a few factors (e.g. cost of electricity). Another issue in Texas is that we can choose our electric provider. I do so every year and generally pay in the 7 to 10 cent range/kwh. Thus far, all of our clients have opted to not use panels since financially, they don't make any sense (they can invest in the market instead and earn a better return).

As I said in the OP, it's not solar panels, it's a solar roof.

 

[WVPATX]

As I said in the OP, it's not solar panels, it's a solar roof.

Roof, panels, they use the same or very similar technology. As I said, I encourage all the warmists to buy this roof. You'd be putting your money to use in something in which you believe.

 

[op2]

Roof, panels, they use the same or very similar technology. As I said, I encourage all the warmists to buy this roof. You'd be putting your money to use in something in which you believe.

Do you still use a rotary phone too? You seem to resist anything new. Solar panels can't be used as a roof of a house. This is something new. Things keep changing whether we pay attention to the changes or not.

 

[WVPATX]

Do you still use a rotary phone too? You seem to resist anything new. Solar panels can't be used as a roof of a house. This is something new. Things keep changing whether we pay attention to the changes or not.

The technology of the roof and the panels are not substantially different. The efficiency is the same or nearly the same. Again, I suggest you buy such a roof. I am not against your doing so, I think it is great and it shows a real commitment on your part to save the planet.

 

[op2]

The technology of the roof and the panels are not substantially different. The efficiency is the same or nearly the same. Again, I suggest you buy such a roof. I am not against your doing so, I think it is great and it shows a real commitment on your part to save the planet.

You are focusing on one particular aspect. The fact that it can now be used as an actual roof is big change.

 

[WVPATX]

You are focusing on one particular aspect. The fact that it can now be used as an actual roof is big change.

Beautiful. Buy it. As I said, I am thrilled. BTW, it is a change in external design, not efficiency of conversion. Depending on where you live, I can almost guarantee you a 10 year or greater payback which would mean you would make the investment to green the planet, not as an investment.

 

[op2]

Beautiful. Buy it. As I said, I am thrilled. BTW, it is a change in external design, not efficiency of conversion. Depending on where you live, I can almost guarantee you a 10 year or greater payback which would mean you would make the investment to green the planet, not as an investment.

My guess is it will take longer than 10 years to make your money back. If it's only 10 years it really is a great investment considering that the roof itself is supposed to last longer than a normal roof.

I don't need a new roof right now. And I live in a condo anyway so I can't buy a new roof at will. And the condo had a new roof put on only a couple years ago anyway. It's a big country though and some people will buy it.

 

[WVPATX]

If you live in WV, you payback will be much longer than 10 years. In Texas, it is around 10 years for the customers which asked us to check it out.

 

[bamaEER]

My guess is it will take longer than 10 years to make your money back. If it's only 10 years it really is a great investment considering that the roof itself is supposed to last longer than a normal roof.

I don't need a new roof right now. And I live in a condo anyway so I can't buy a new roof at will. And the condo had a new roof put on only a couple years ago anyway. It's a big country though and some people will buy it.

I think it's a great idea. The panel kits you mount on your roof are kinda ugly, but having them built into the roof, like this, are cool. There's an outfit in Syracuse that installs the panel units on houses around here and there are two in my neighborhood. At our last HOA meeting, the homeowners said great things about them and the savings. I think they had a 10yr plan and their energy costs (including panel costs) were cut way back....30% I think. For an area that doesn't get much sun, like upstate NY, that's remarkable.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Note that these aren't solar panels that go atop a roof but rather is a solar roof. So unless you need a new roof anyway you probably won't want one. But if you do need a new roof and if the style they have looks good on your house then go for it. They cost more but then again the idea is that you have lower or non-existence electric bills in perpetuity.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ar-roof-orders-2017-05-10?link=MW_latest_news

Post is useless without cost and pictures. I'd need to see ROI timeline.

 

[op2]

Post is useless without cost and pictures. I'd need to see ROI timeline.

Of course the devil is in the details and you'd have to look into that for your particular case. According to the article below the warranty is for the lifetime of the house. If that's so and if it's permitted maybe it would make sense to just put one of these roofs on a new house under construction.

Apparently it comes with a battery backup. So I think the idea is that solar roof charges the batteries during the day and then you draw on the batteries at night.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-s-solar-roof-is-finally-ready-for-you-to-buy

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Post is useless without cost and pictures. I'd need to see ROI timeline.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Post is useless without cost and pictures. I'd need to see ROI timeline.

ROI lifetime is going to vary by location and orientation of your roof angles. Assuming the "shingles" have the same efficiency as panels you'd get more out of them if a large portion of your roof was facing south, and even more if it was at an angle equal to your latitude.

You'd have to look at irradiation tables and put all of that information into a calculator to see how much you could be expected to produce.

I did it for my house (just panels, not the shingles like these, and only on one side) and I'd produce more than I needed in Summer, less than I'd need in winter and just about break even in the Fall and Spring. Essentially I'd produce 90% of what I use in a year. I think the break even point for me was around 10-12 years.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

For all of you financial experts: isn't a good rule of thumb on investments pay back within 7 years? If longer, bad deal?

 

[WVPATX]

For all of you financial experts: isn't a good rule of thumb on investments pay back within 7 years? If longer, bad deal?

That is correct.

 

[op2]

Tesla has revealed more details about the solar roof. Also, there is a calculator where you can go and enter your address and estimate how much the whole thing will cost. I assume the address is to estimate how much Sun you'll get. And I assume that they assume that you don't have any trees blocking your roof. Of course, you're taking their word for it on these cost estimates.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/solar-roof
https://www.tesla.com/blog/solar-roof
And here is slo mo footage of a hail cannonball hitting their roof tiles. It's not very good lighting though.