You score 48 and lose by 47???

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18IsTheMan

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Don’t usually consider your logic but if it floats your boat, I’m ok with that.

Well, you scoffed and mocked when I asked a few weeks ago if he would make it through the season. Now you're saying it's time to pull the plug.

You said "it was nice while it lasted" regarding my question on the apparent demise of his tenure.

I guess I should turn that statement back on you.
 
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Anyone on here know what the buyout figures would be if terminated now, versus after the season is over ?
 

18IsTheMan

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Anyone on here know what the buyout figures would be if terminated now, versus after the season is over ?
Whenever we can him, we owe him 65% of his remaining contract.

We raised him to $3,750,000 for the '24-'25 season, with annual increases of $250,000 so that his salary in the final year, '29-'30, would be $5,000,000.

Not factoring in the remainder of this year, if my math is correct (and it's probably not) we would owe him $12,025,000 for the ''26-'27 season through the '29-'30 season.
 

18IsTheMan

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Whenever we can him, we owe him 65% of his remaining contract.

We raised him to $3,750,000 for the '24-'25 season, with annual increases of $250,000 so that his salary in the final year, '29-'30, would be $5,000,000.

Not factoring in the remainder of this year, if my math is correct (and it's probably not) we would owe him $12,025,000 for the ''26-'27 season through the '29-'30 season.

I don't know why you would guarantee annual $250,000 increases independent of job performance.
 

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I don't know why you would guarantee annual $250,000 increases independent of job performance.
They were scared someone was going to hire him away, LOL.

He looks to be terrible but I don't see the upside in firing him mid season. Unless they can get a coach who isn't currently working, like Marshall, to agree to terms, they aren't even going to be able to talk to a coach until after the season. Put the word out that Paris is gone after this season and see which agents give you a call.

Of course, the most Carolina thing ever would be for word to spread that Paris was a dead man walking, agents would start calling, and Paris would go on a run to end the season but not win enough to get in any tournament. Then, the narrative would be "Paris has turned it around, we owe him at least one more season".
 

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Well, you scoffed and mocked when I asked a few weeks ago if he would make it through the season. Now you're saying it's time to pull the plug.

You said "it was nice while it lasted" regarding my question on the apparent demise of his tenure.

I guess I should turn that statement back on you.

Its interesting how some people lack the ability just to say "you were right, I was wrong".

In another thread I asked when the shift happened, when firing Paris went from delusions of the "fire everyone" crowd to the accepted course of action.

I guess everyone was on board with you the whole time after all.
 
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Don’t usually consider your logic but if it floats your boat, I’m ok with that.

Odd. I remember Puppy claiming 18 was "logical and sincere" when he was shopping for a new leash holder.

I guess consistency is not a valued trait in some.
 

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I’m curious if anyone knows the numbers. Does the basketball program generate any money? I would think with NIL, Coach Salaries, Colonial Life Operating costs, etc. they would be losing money. If for nothing else something has to be done to sell tickets, let alone be a relevant, competitive program.
 

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I’m curious if anyone knows the numbers. Does the basketball program generate any money? I would think with NIL, Coach Salaries, Colonial Life Operating costs, etc. they would be losing money. If for nothing else something has to be done to sell tickets, let alone be a relevant, competitive program.


School year 23-24 article.

But this is probably fluctuating wildly this last year with the introduction of the settlement money.

Like you, I'd like to see the numbers by sport for the latest year, but hadn't seen it yet.
 

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I think all parties, staff, team, fans, Lamont himself, are aware that the Paris era is over. I agree, time to pull the plug; nothing to lose.
Wait till April and his buyout drops by $2.5M. This season is a lost cause already. Dead man walking. May as well save some money in the process. We have nothing to gain by firing him early, unless you know of a stud coach on the team or in the ether that could immediately take over and make something happen?
 
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Wait till April and his buyout drops by $2.5M. This season is a lost cause already. Dead man walking. May as well save some money in the process. We have nothing to gain by firing him early, unless you know of a stud coach on the team or in the ether that could immediately take over and make something happen?
I agree with this completely. Firing now would be a costly, feckless blunder. Donati can still be angling to get a new coach. I'd bet the house that he already is.
 
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I agree with this completely. Firing now would be a costly, feckless blunder. Donati can still be angling to get a new coach. I'd bet the house that he already is.

So, what you're saying is that Ray would have done it now.
 

atl-cock

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They were scared someone was going to hire him away, LOL.

He looks to be terrible but I don't see the upside in firing him mid season. Unless they can get a coach who isn't currently working, like Marshall, to agree to terms, they aren't even going to be able to talk to a coach until after the season. Put the word out that Paris is gone after this season and see which agents give you a call.

Of course, the most Carolina thing ever would be for word to spread that Paris was a dead man walking, agents would start calling, and Paris would go on a run to end the season but not win enough to get in any tournament. Then, the narrative would be "Paris has turned it around, we owe him at least one more season".
For all we know, Paris and Donati may have spoken and Paris has been quietly allowed to finish out the season, and a quiet search for a new head coach for men's basketball has begun.

To be clear, I have no way of knowing if this is true; just throwing it out there as a possibility.
 
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This thief will walk with $10 million to coach high school.
 

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I waited until emotion subsided before I commented so I could comment on this with an objective mind. I haven't felt this hopeless about basketball since the spring of 1999. These blowout losses we've suffered the last two years remind me of some of the games from that season:

76-48 at home vs Auburn
86-57 at Tennessee
74-40 at Kentucky
89-61 at Florida
70-56 at Georgia
56-34 at home to East Carolina(?)

And the crown Jewel that season, and the only performance I've seen that was as bad or worse than this Florida game:

84-37 at Syracuse

When it was all said and done they ended up 8-21 overall and 3-13 in the SEC. I still am amazed that the even won those three SEC games. These last two years the noncompetitive blowout losses have taken me back there, scores like:

85-50 to Mississippi State
80-57 to Kentucky
101-71 to Missouri
108-74 to Arkansas
And this 95-48 loss to Florida(gotta go down there to see them on February 17)

I'm right back where I was during that miserable winter and spring 27 years ago. Now as it was then, the only game day suspense I feel is "I wonder how much we'll lose by tonight?"
 
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1vagamecock

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I waited until emotion subsided before I commented so I could comment on this with an objective mind. I haven't felt this hopeless about basketball since the spring of 1999. These blowout losses we've suffered the last two years remind me of some of the games from that season:

76-48 at home vs Auburn
86-57 at Tennessee
74-40 at Kentucky
89-61 at Florida
70-56 at Georgia
56-34 at home to East Carolina(?)

And the crown Jewel that season, and the only performance I've seen that was as bad or worse than this Florida game:

84-37 at Syracuse

When it was all said and done they ended up 8-21 overall and 3-13 in the SEC. I still am amazed that the even won those three SEC games.
If we lose the next 2 games Paris will have the same record as Horn through the same number of games.
Depressing.
 

ScWildthing61

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I waited until emotion subsided before I commented so I could comment on this with an objective mind. I haven't felt this hopeless about basketball since the spring of 1999. These blowout losses we've suffered the last two years remind me of some of the games from that season:

76-48 at home vs Auburn
86-57 at Tennessee
74-40 at Kentucky
89-61 at Florida
70-56 at Georgia
56-34 at home to East Carolina(?)

And the crown Jewel that season, and the only performance I've seen that was as bad or worse than this Florida game:

84-37 at Syracuse

When it was all said and done they ended up 8-21 overall and 3-13 in the SEC. I still am amazed that the even won those three SEC games. These last two years the noncompetitive blowout losses have taken me back there, scores like:

85-50 to Mississippi State
80-57 to Kentucky
101-71 to Missouri
108-74 to Arkansas
And this 95-48 loss to Florida(gotta go down there to see them on February 17)

I'm right back where I was during that miserable winter and spring 27 years ago. Now as it was then, the only game day suspense I feel is "I wonder how much we'll lose by tonight?"
Correction the Georgia loss was 80-56 not 70-56
 

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I hate "liking" your post. Think of it as I agree with your opinion.