With most wanting Mullen gone...

[TheRavishinOne]

Who did state interview before hiring Mullen?

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

Who did state interview before hiring Mullen?

Think Wilson (the Indiana coach), and Peterson (the Boise State coach) were interviewed, but I'm not sure. Doesn't really matter now, though, because I think most State fans, including myself, want Hudspeth.

 

[deadheaddawg]

I assume he is wanting to know to see who we could have gotten instead of Mullen. What the last five years would have looked like

 

[Lildoggy]

Love how you get "most" from yourself.

 

[Faustdog]

Don't confuse the groupthink that happens on message boards...

for the actual opinion of the majority of our fans.

 

[Shmuley]

A more accurate statement: MOST state fans want Mullen to succeed. ............................................

And MOST state fans have real doubts that he will succeed long term. The dude simply cannot recruit. And he cannot assemble a staff that is cohesive. Those are 2 HUGE traits of a coach leader. He has so far failed at both.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This.

 

[DerHntr]

A more accurate statement: MOST state fans want Mullen to succeed. ............................................

And MOST state fans have real doubts that he will succeed long term. The dude simply cannot recruit. And he cannot assemble a staff that is cohesive. Those are 2 HUGE traits of a coach leader. He has so far failed at both.

Exactly. I would rather see MSU succeed and it would be great if that would happen because of Mullen. I could put up with most coaches' ******** if they could recruit, put together a quality staff, and build a culture on the team where the team fights to the last whistle. Luckily Dan doesn't have much ******** to deal with. So, we'd all be better off if he was good at those things.

 

[yee dawgy]

When Mullen was hired I don't remember who all we interviewed but it came down to him and Hudspeth. Byrne offered Mullen the job but required him to hire Hudspeth as OC. Mullen then selected Les Koenig and made them co-OC. This hire is still a mystery to me. He represents the complete opposite of the offense that Mullen supposedly was a master of.

 

[Shmuley]

Forcing him to hire Hudspeth, IF that is what happened, was a mistake. It set Mullen up to always look over his shoulder wondering whether his replacement was sitting next to him in the film room. Created lots of internal strife and division right out of the box.

 

[Death Rattle]

It was between Mullen and one of the coordinators from Oklahoma.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

Hud was hired before mullen. Hud was a courtesy interview. Byrne was so impressed, he hired him. Dan was his #1 but hud was right there. Basically, byrne offered dan but gave him a short amount of time to accept without even coming to campus. If dan hesitated, hud wouldve been our coach.

 

[yee dawgy]

Byrne(and everyone else) suspected that Mullen would be a good coach and be lured away from MSU by another school and Hud would step right in. Obviously Hudspeth expected the same and when it appeared that Mullen was here to stay, he moved on as did our offense. Kind of the same story with Stan Jones/Stansbury.

 

[Philly Dawg]

I don't even recall Hudspeth getting much more than a message board mention. A division two coach is not going to get a real look from a SEC school. Byrne asked Peterson if he wanted the job, then identified Mullen and a coordinator from Oklahoma.

Where did this Byrne forced assistants on Mullen thing come from? I find that extremely unlikely to be true.

 

[engie]

Hud was hired before mullen. Hud was a courtesy interview. Byrne was so impressed, he hired him. Dan was his #1 but hud was right there. Basically, byrne offered dan but gave him a short amount of time to accept without even coming to campus. If dan hesitated, hud wouldve been our coach.

This is exactly what happened,,,

HUD was hired by Byrne and that was an understandable source of strife between him and Mullen...

 

[Wicked Pissah]

It didnt come from anywhere. Hud was hired first by byrne.

 

[RocketDawg]

I don't think "most" want him gone.

Wasn't Malzahn's name mentioned? Not sure if he was offered or not.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Here is the official announcement from MSU, and Mullen, of the hiring of Hudspeth. I guess that this all could have been some sort of ruse and that there could be some sort of urban legend that Byrne hired Hudspeth before Mullen, but that just seems so unlikely to me. Why would either a head or assistant coach want to be in that situation?

http://www.hailstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3633185

Hudspeth did not resign his job at UNA until after Mullen had the job. Again, it could all be some sort of conspiracy, but why? It makes so little sense.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/12/north_alabamas_mark_hudspeth_r.html

 

[sldrboy2002]

I don't want Mullen gone yet, but what I do want is for him to own up to this whole debacle, not blame injuries, or graduate assistants for making mistakes. Take ownership of the definite coaching mistakes, then move on. If State is able to eek out 6 wins and go to a bowl game, He needs to have a serious look at all of the assistants, and make changes. This team to me has become so lackluster. There are some that seem like they give a darn, and are trying but so many more who are like "oh we just gave up a sack, or a 20 yard gain oh well". This team has no identity it seems like. I do agree that I believe Mullen has failed TR, and what TR is best suited as which is a pocket passer, however I will say this as well, if TR was coached to gain additional abilities as a QB, and did not grasp, or adapt to them, then he is just as much to blame as Mullen is. You take Relf who we all know was great at tucking the ball and running with it, or tossing on a option adapted to passing the ball in a decent way. To my view TR has not adapted to anything well but standing in the pocket too long and either getting sacked, or making a great pass. There has to be some ownership to the player if they fail to learn from the coaches. To me the biggest disappointment in this team, and its capabilities(regarsless of injuries) is the offensive line. They have had their moments, but they have not had consistency, and this is 2 years in a row at least that the offensive line has had issues. Personally I would like to see a revamp of part of the offensive coaching staff. If Mullen is going to have his say in the offensive play calling, take it over completely and hire a special teams coach, get a new offensive line coach as well. See what happens next year and go from there. This whole thing of blaming injuries and assistant coaches for mistakes though needs to come to an end.

 

[TheRavishinOne]

for the actual opinion of the majority of our fans.

Well to the ones who don't want him gone like myself, my bad. Most fans that I have talked to outside of this message board all tell me the same thing, they're sick of the same crap like not being competitive, Mullen not having that "signature win", losing the recruiting war, possibly losing 2 egg bowls in a row. I hope with Mullen showing how pissed off he was in yesterdays game, maybe, just maybe he has a fire lit under him again like 09. I'm not giving up on this team at all, I truly believe the talent is there and a bowl game is still possible. I just hope that Mullen and crew don't screw it up. Just remember, we are M-State