Mullen's contract extension is done....
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Someone who post on Nafoom please go over and let them know this has happened. They had a nice long thread about mullen and not signing an extension. The conclusion was that since he sucks so bad there was no need to extend him because no one else wants him.
The average is 25 K behind Freeze's 4.3 mil, but I think I read where Mullen is getting 4 mil this season, so his salary the remaining 3 seasons may actually top Freeze.
I'm thinking both schools overpaid, but not by a huge margin. 3.8 to 4 million dollars is the cost of employing a somewhat proven coach in the SEC Western Division.
All schools are over paying. We are just doing what we have to do to be competitive in this over paying world.
Agree to disagree. Saban has been a bargain considering the return on investment.
Could not possibly agree more. When Dan Mullen took over in '09, our football revenue was $36.6M. In 2013, it was $62.7M and while I don't believe that the number has been made official for last season yet, I can say with 100% assurance that it will dwarf 2013's figure.
Granted, there are plenty of other people outside of Dan Mullen that deserve credit for this, but he has been the voice and face of MSU during this period. I do not believe that this level of growth and success would have been possible without him, so I fully endorse him getting his piece of the pie
Granted, there are plenty of other people outside of Dan Mullen that deserve credit for this, but he has been the voice and face of MSU during this period. I do not believe that this level of growth and success would have been possible without him, so I fully endorse him getting his piece of the pie
One could probably make the same case for Mullen-MSU. He's done great things for our program, and 2014 brought us invaluable publicity on a national level.
I don't think either school overpaid based on results so far. I think we made a much safer bet than UM and that UM may have overpaid compared to the shape their program is in.
Dan has established his program and shown steady improvement and also by and large had players that stayed out of trouble. There's no glaring problems ahead. We are going to be solid unless he has just misevaluated recruits.
Bucky on the other hand has is still young enough in his time at UM that he could still flame out pretty easily. He's relying on a JUCO transfer to be his QB, after that QB has been kicked off another DI team and when he couldn't even manage to go from signing to spring practice without getting arrested. He still doesn't seem to have an O-line in place. He's got players that seem to have questionable attitudes, so it's not clear what would happen to the team if they take a big step back next year b/c of lack of qb or O-line play. I expect Freeze to continue to be good. It's not a huge red flag to not have an O-Line in year three; Mullen certainly didn't. But I thought Nutt was going to continue to be solid also and I would still say that UM got played b/c they are on the hook again, for big money, for a coach still young in his career that wasn't going anywhere if they didn't offer.
I h ave no doubt we could have signed Mullen for $3.8M and he would have signed the deal (or maybe just kept his current one), but after all he has done for State why not pay him market? We'd just ensure that he left next chance he got. And how ever many jobs he has turned down, he's certainly had at least one if not two good job prospects that he killed because he went in their making it clear that they were going to have to make a strong offer to get him to leave MSU, so he definitely hasn't been dying for a chance to go anywhere different.
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Even if there is a bubble, what do you do? Go hire Brady Hoke or Hudspeth at $2M/year? And until you can prove that a bubble can even exist within CFB coaches salaries, it's a moot point. I honestly think the thought of it is silly. Housing and gas prices deeply effect all of us. The salary of a coach really doesn't. Ok, ticket prices went up 10%. But it's such a minute portion of most people's expenses that its hard to imagine the increase will have much impact. For some it may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but most of us will shrug it off.
How would a bubble be forming? Is interest in college football artificially driving up viewership on TV or the price of advertising during football games?
There is no bubble forming. College football could have always been what it is now it just took TV time to realize that.
Uh, yes there is. Interest in college football is driving up viewership/attendance and the price of advertising during the football games. But when those gas prices and home prices burst, money to sports follows right along.
Take Nascar for instance. The recession combined with the Jimmie Johnson era really crippled the sport.
Wasn't this past season the first year of the SEC Network? I wouldn't think any of the 2013 revenue was due to the SECN deal.
Yeah college football really took a nosedive since 2008. Hell MSU attendance has increased since the recession started, as has most of the south. NASCAR is not even remotely comparable to football. Football is the most popular sport in America. NASCAR is what 5 or 6. Maybe higher in the south.
Since I don't believe that full SEC network financial details have ever been fully disclosed, I don't know that answer to that, but I'm betting that it's not as much of it as you'd think.
Per USA Today, here are the details concerning the jump from 2009 to 2013
Ticket Sales: $7.6M to $11.4M
BC Contributions: $6.4M to $16.9M
Rights/Licensing: $13.2M to $27.6M
Now, a portion of the jump in Rights/Licensing definitely has to do with the new ESPN deal that signed back in 2008. However, it was only worth roughly $10M/year for each school in total so it's not like it accounted for the entire increase in rights/licensing. Apparel sales and licensing has a lot to do with that number as well
I don't know where 2014 ended up as compared to the $62.7M that we saw in '13, but I'll throw a prediction of ~ $75M out there.
Per USA Today, here are the details concerning the jump from 2009 to 2013
Ticket Sales: $7.6M to $11.4M
BC Contributions: $6.4M to $16.9M
Rights/Licensing: $13.2M to $27.6M
Now, a portion of the jump in Rights/Licensing definitely has to do with the new ESPN deal that signed back in 2008. However, it was only worth roughly $10M/year for each school in total so it's not like it accounted for the entire increase in rights/licensing. Apparel sales and licensing has a lot to do with that number as well
I don't know where 2014 ended up as compared to the $62.7M that we saw in '13, but I'll throw a prediction of ~ $75M out there.
Don't be an dubmass. Read my post before you put on your asshat. Do you remember where MSU football was in 2008? Nowhere to go but up. You say college football, but you are equating that with the SEC. Many programs operate in the red. Only now - after 7 years - are the traditional powers in other conferences catching up. Same can be said of the Miss. teams.
After the death of Dale Earnhardt (2001), Nascar was the most viewed spectator sport in America. Nascar is driven by sponsorship money and that dried up in 2008. There's a correlation between the rise of football and the decline of Nascar. Football is as much a southern dominated sport as Nascar.
Your point might make more sense if we were talking about just MSU. However, college football as a whole as boomed during the recession.
Feel free to rub it in my face when the college football "bubble burst".
Still your nascar talk is dumb. The Daytona 500 is always watched by a lot of people because there are no other sporting events happening. If the Daytona 500 that Earnhardt died in was head to head with the sec chsmpionship it wouldn't be watched by nearly as many people.
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