OT: what's going on in Charlotte?

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113

PrestonyteParrot

All-Conference
May 28, 2024
3,203
3,179
113
Yep, prosecutors have gone nuts and are not protecting the citizens.
I posted this one below last week.

The truck driver who caused a chain-reaction crash that killed five people on Interstate 95 two summers ago pleaded guilty to five misdemeanors on Friday and was sentenced to the maximum of 150 days in jail.
30 days for each death? What is our legal system becoming? Go sit in the corner for 5 minutes?

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113
Yep, prosecutors have gone nuts and are not protecting the citizens.
I posted this one below last week.

The truck driver who caused a chain-reaction crash that killed five people on Interstate 95 two summers ago pleaded guilty to five misdemeanors on Friday and was sentenced to the maximum of 150 days in jail.
30 days for each death? What is our legal system becoming? Go sit in the corner for 5 minutes?

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html
Insane.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
I think it was a plea deal. Tragedy for sure.

"Hood allegedly said her light was changing from green to yellow Sotelo ran out in front of her."

If they didn't have any evidence to counter, then they'd have to take into account he might have stepped out in front of her by mistake. That's probably why the plea instead of going to trial because at trial I am sure her attorney would have claimed he stepped out in front of her- whether they could prove it or not and if a jury buys it, she walks out with no punishment at all.

I saw one recently in Missouri or Kansas - lady hit someone with a car and killed them- was a misdemeanor- she kept driving- she claimed she didn't know she hit anyone. Police admitted they couldn't prove she knew she hit someone.
 

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
Yep, prosecutors have gone nuts and are not protecting the citizens.
I posted this one below last week.

The truck driver who caused a chain-reaction crash that killed five people on Interstate 95 two summers ago pleaded guilty to five misdemeanors on Friday and was sentenced to the maximum of 150 days in jail.
30 days for each death? What is our legal system becoming? Go sit in the corner for 5 minutes?

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html#storylink=cpy

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article316184052.html
These are always awful- the issue is criminalizing a driving mistake to a felony level.

This guy wasn't impaired and there was no evidence of anything other than he didn't see the slowdown and didn't brake.

If they could have proved he was staring at his phone, it's likely very different. Feel awful for the family.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

PrestonyteParrot

All-Conference
May 28, 2024
3,203
3,179
113
First that girl was killed on the train a while back.

Now a lady runs a red light, hits a guy, flees the scene, leaving the guy to die. She was charged with "misdemeanor death by vehicle"....which is a thing???....and sentenced to 30 days in jail. 30 days?

She did not have a drivers license and was scared????? That's her excuse for hitting and killing a pedestrian and leaving the scene? So now she's the victim and we give her 30 days and the dreaded probation :rolleyes: That's justice???
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113
She did not have a drivers license and was scared????? That's her excuse for hitting and killing a pedestrian and leaving the scene? So now she's the victim and we give her 30 days and the dreaded probation :rolleyes: That's justice???

When I was about 17....dumb, goofy, teenager....I was driving in our neighborhood and a kid on a bike shot out from behind a parked car. Thankfully, I was not driving very fast but it was unavoidable that I hit him. I was 17 and absolutely terrified, but I stopped the car immediately to see if the kid was ok. Fortunately, he was. Qlaundra is 28 but was too scared to stop?
 

92Pony

Joined Jan 18, 2011
Jan 18, 2011
2,925
7,137
113
I watch a lot of reaction videos to bodycam footage by former Pinal County (Arizona) Sheriff Lamb. In almost every single video he does, at the end charges filed are listed and then how many of them are dropped. It's astounding what people get away scott-free with. My luck, I'd get 5yrs for throwing a gum wrapper on the ground.
 

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113
I'm not suggesting she's a cold-blooded killer, but injuries to the deceased show speed was a factor, she was driving without a license, she fled the scene....and the guy died. How does all that equal 30 days?
 

Lurker123

All-American
May 4, 2020
6,912
5,698
113
I'm not suggesting she's a cold-blooded killer, but injuries to the deceased show speed was a factor, she was driving without a license, she fled the scene....and the guy died. How does all that equal 30 days?

What would you get for doing this? But she cried, so thats different.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
I'm not suggesting she's a cold-blooded killer, but injuries to the deceased show speed was a factor, she was driving without a license, she fled the scene....and the guy died. How does all that equal 30 days?

It doesn't. It's frustrating.

It's a matter of what they can prove in court and feel good about knowing a defense attorney is going to argue the guy stepped out in front of her - without video evidence to prove otherwise- and of course she was scared- she hit someone that stepped out in front of her. (their argument).

So they take the sentence she's willing to plead to or risk a chance that one juror feels sorry for her and she walks out with no punishment at all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113
It doesn't. It's frustrating.

It's a matter of what they can prove in court and feel good about knowing a defense attorney is going to argue the guy stepped out in front of her - without video evidence to prove otherwise- and of course she was scared- she hit someone that stepped out in front of her. (their argument).

So they take the sentence she's willing to plead to or risk a chance that one juror feels sorry for her and she walks out with no punishment at all.

So for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they let her off with no punishment. Makes sense.
 

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
So for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they let her off with no punishment. Makes sense.

But she did receive some punishment.

It's not fair to say she got no punishment when she clearly did. She got what we consider every inadequate punishment, but it was some punishment.

So, for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they agreed to a a level of punishment that many will agree is very inadequate punishment.

That plays into thousands of cases all the time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
So for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they let her off with no punishment. Makes sense.

But she did receive some punishment.

It's not fair to say she got no punishment when she clearly did. She got what we consider very inadequate punishment, but it was some punishment.

So, for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they agreed to a a level of punishment that many will agree is very inadequate punishment.

That plays into thousands of cases all the time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

18IsTheMan

Heisman
Oct 1, 2014
20,654
17,560
113
But she did receive some punishment.

It's not fair to say she got no punishment when she clearly did. She got what we consider every inadequate punishment, but it was some punishment.

So, for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they agreed to a a level of punishment that many will agree is very inadequate punishment.

That plays into thousands of cases all the time.

It's like a professional football player who makes $10 million/year being fined $25,000 and calling that punishment.
 

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
It's like a professional football player who makes $10 million/year being fined $25,000 and calling that punishment.

Everyone will have their opinions on that.

I don't think this perpetrator pleading guilty to a felony hit and run and going to prison for 30 days, although inadequate, is the same as the scenario you described.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

Lurker123

All-American
May 4, 2020
6,912
5,698
113
It's like a professional football player who makes $10 million/year being fined $25,000 and calling that punishment.

You're arguing with a professional victim player. The question is not what argument will get through, but why are you doing it in the first place.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

Piscis

All-Conference
Nov 30, 2001
25,726
3,308
113

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
It appears the Charlotte cancer has metastisized into the surrounding areas.

The prosecutor in York is Kevin Brackett- a longtime elected republican and close associate with South Carolina Republican Senate pro-Tem Tommy Pope (the guy who prosecuted susan smith)

As in the Charlotte case- they had a decision to make. Go to court and face a very real possibility of zero punishment- or some punishment. That's the American system.
 

Lurker123

All-American
May 4, 2020
6,912
5,698
113
It appears the Charlotte cancer has metastisized into the surrounding areas.

A pretty simple concept that eludes some.

But you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics when youre leaping to the defense of killers. Wonder what makes a person do that?
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloody spur

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
It appears the Charlotte cancer has metastisized into the surrounding areas.
A formerly missing North Augusta woman who was charged with hit-and-run will not face any jail time.

Susan H. Rhodes, 66, of North Augusta took a plea deal in connection to the June 2025 incident, according to court records from the 11th Judicial Circuit in Edgefield County.

Rhodes pleaded guilty to reckless driving and open container in connection to the hit-and run in North Augusta Municipal Court. Police determined that Rhodes was at fault in of the traffic accident and left the scene following it because she didn’t want to face prosecution.
 

PrestonyteParrot

All-Conference
May 28, 2024
3,203
3,179
113
But she did receive some punishment.

It's not fair to say she got no punishment when she clearly did. She got what we consider every inadequate punishment, but it was some punishment.

So, for fear that she'll walk with no punishment, they agreed to a a level of punishment that many will agree is very inadequate punishment.

That plays into thousands of cases all the time.
Punishment is supposed to be a deterrent to prevent it from happening again and discourage others from committing the same CRIME! This is kindergarten, go sit in the corner type punishment for killing someone. No wonder criminals have repeat offenses and long rap sheets! We have strayed severely from a criminal system that worked to a "criminal as the victim mentality" which leads to more criminal activity.
 

Piscis

All-Conference
Nov 30, 2001
25,726
3,308
113
A formerly missing North Augusta woman who was charged with hit-and-run will not face any jail time.

Susan H. Rhodes, 66, of North Augusta took a plea deal in connection to the June 2025 incident, according to court records from the 11th Judicial Circuit in Edgefield County.

Rhodes pleaded guilty to reckless driving and open container in connection to the hit-and run in North Augusta Municipal Court. Police determined that Rhodes was at fault in of the traffic accident and left the scene following it because she didn’t want to face prosecution.
She did not injure anyone. That happened a mile or so from my brother's house.

I think it is sad that you think pointing out how people are not punished for committing crimes somehow makes it acceptable to not punish people for committing crimes.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Lurker123

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
Punishment is supposed to be a deterrent to prevent it from happening again and discourage others from committing the same CRIME! This is kindergarten, go sit in the corner type punishment for killing someone. No wonder criminals have repeat offenses and long rap sheets! We have strayed severely from a criminal system that worked to a "criminal as the victim mentality" which leads to more criminal activity.

I agree. But the prosecution of an individual has to be balanced with "can we actually win this case"

That's the system. This is not new.

If they don't think they can clearly win the case in these situations, taking a plea with some punishment is often better than no punishment at all. They almost always talk to the family involved and ask them what they think about this and in most cases they are offering a plea with the family approval.

It's always a balancing act in many cases.
 

The Reel Ess

Joined Feb 3, 2005
Feb 3, 2005
1,746
2,026
113
I think it was a plea deal. Tragedy for sure.

"Hood allegedly said her light was changing from green to yellow Sotelo ran out in front of her."

If they didn't have any evidence to counter, then they'd have to take into account he might have stepped out in front of her by mistake. That's probably why the plea instead of going to trial because at trial I am sure her attorney would have claimed he stepped out in front of her- whether they could prove it or not and if a jury buys it, she walks out with no punishment at all.

I saw one recently in Missouri or Kansas - lady hit someone with a car and killed them- was a misdemeanor- she kept driving- she claimed she didn't know she hit anyone. Police admitted they couldn't prove she knew she hit someone.
The article says officials say she ran a red light. In Charlotte they have a camera on most intersecions. That probably is not in dispute.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lurker123

DannyTree1

Sophomore
Jun 4, 2026
373
173
43
She did not injure anyone. That happened a mile or so from my brother's house.

I think it is sad that you think pointing out how people are not punished for committing crimes somehow makes it acceptable to not punish people for committing crimes.
She damaged property, could have easily killed someone and ran from police- but she didn't go to prison- she served only probation.

You are confusing how the system works everywhere thinking it only works this way in a few locations or certain locations. This happens all the time- everywhere.

and in every case here, the person was punished. It might bave been very unsatisfying and inadequate, but there was punishment.
 
GamecockCentral

Latest

  1. 01 GamecockCentral Football Insider Report: What's gone wrong for South Carolina, Bama game thoughts, what's next?
  2. 02 GamecockCentral Football 10 takeaways from South Carolina's blowout loss to Alabama
  3. 03 GamecockCentral Beyond the box score: 20 observations from South Carolina's ugly loss to Alabama
  4. 04 GamecockCentral Football Recruiting Keeping up with South Carolina commitments: week 6
  5. 05 GamecockCentral Football South Carolina falls out of majority of national bowl projections following second loss