PSU Recruiting Thread

El_Jefe

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I kinda wondered if, in a five for five world, gray shirts might become a bit more frequent.
Perhaps, but he's not grayshirting. He's taking the Nick Lee/Levi Haines senior year at NLWC.

I won't be surprised if this happens more often with 5 for 5. He probably thinks he has a shot at starting 149 next year with Van Ness graduated, so why not start training for it now?

Establishing in-state residency doesn't hurt either.
 

El_Jefe

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BTW: Mario Hutcherson, Cam Howard, and Sammy Sanchez should commit to PSU, move to State College now, and spend TWO years at NLWC while taking high school classes online.

I mean, why should they be limited to 1 year of NLWC training?

 

nerfstate

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Perhaps, but he's not grayshirting. He's taking the Nick Lee/Levi Haines senior year at NLWC.

I won't be surprised if this happens more often with 5 for 5. He probably thinks he has a shot at starting 149 next year with Van Ness graduated, so why not start training for it now?

Establishing in-state residency doesn't hurt either.
Correct my understanding: I thought the Nick Lee / Levi Haines approach was the definition of grayshirting.
 

Lil Nicky Scarfo

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BTW: Mario Hutcherson, Cam Howard, and Sammy Sanchez should commit to PSU, move to State College now, and spend TWO years at NLWC while taking high school classes online.

I mean, why should they be limited to 1 year of NLWC training?

Didn’t you know that Cael has given up recruiting because DT is so much better at it than him. We’re just getting the scraps now
 

nerfstate

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Correct my understanding: I thought the Nick Lee / Levi Haines approach was the definition of grayshirting.
Nevermind @El_Jefe i need to go to bed…

Defered enrollment is not what I was thinking when I typed grayshirting—i agree with you—think we’ll see more of whatever hue this shirt is too…
 
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El_Jefe

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Correct my understanding: I thought the Nick Lee / Levi Haines approach was the definition of grayshirting.
Never mind, replied and then saw your self-reply ...

Except to say: 5 for 5 wrecks the Ivy Redshirt that Cornell widely utilized at Middle Finger Lake Community College, except for those who are young enough to defer enrollment under the new rules.

Hope this point doesn't derail the PSU Recruiting thread. Feel free to move this post if that happens.
 

BriantheLion

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Correct my understanding: I thought the Nick Lee / Levi Haines approach was the definition of grayshirting.
IIUC grey shirt is what many are speculating JJames may do if Levi wrestles this year… having finished high school with his class, then taking a gap year before starting full time college.

Nick Lee, Levi, and CS are skipping their last year at their high school, presumably finishing that degree online ( unless they had enough credits to graduate a year early, but didn’t reclassify and enrolled a year early).
 

Corby2

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IIUC grey shirt is what many are speculating JJames may do if Levi wrestles this year… having finished high school with his class, then taking a gap year before starting full time college.

Nick Lee, Levi, and CS are skipping their last year at their high school, presumably finishing that degree online ( unless they had enough credits to graduate a year early, but didn’t reclassify and enrolled a year early).
Ryder skipped his Sr year in NY and moved as well
 

Sportfan2017

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Skipping your senior year is just That. You move to State College during your Senior year of High School and train at the NLWC. You take your senior Classes online or Enroll at State College Hich School and basically wrestle for the High School while training at the NLWC.. In Gray Shirting.....you have graduated High School and then choose to "Gray Shirt" which involve NOT enrolling aa a Full-Time student at PSU while also training as much as possible at the NLWC and officially enrolling for your as YOUR Freshman year even Though you graduated High School a full year earlier. Got It?
 

El_Jefe

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Skipping your senior year is just That. You move to State College during your Senior year of High School and train at the NLWC. You take your senior Classes online or Enroll at State College Hich School and basically wrestle for the High School while training at the NLWC.. In Gray Shirting.....you have graduated High School and then choose to "Gray Shirt" which involve NOT enrolling aa a Full-Time student at PSU while also training as much as possible at the NLWC and officially enrolling for your as YOUR Freshman year even Though you graduated High School a full year earlier. Got It?
"Skipping your senior year" does not involve wrestling for State High. Also, that runs afoul of PIAA eligibility rules.
 

WV lion

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IIUC grey shirt is what many are speculating JJames may do if Levi wrestles this year… having finished high school with his class, then taking a gap year before starting full time college.

Nick Lee, Levi, and CS are skipping their last year at their high school, presumably finishing that degree online ( unless they had enough credits to graduate a year early, but didn’t reclassify and enrolled a year early).
Kasak too
 

KH1984

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Correct my understanding: I thought the Nick Lee / Levi Haines approach was the definition of grayshirting.
Actually, it's the exact OPPOSITE of a grayshirt year. In a grayshirt year, the athlete takes a year off of college without eligibility penalty. For example, if Jayden James (who has graduated from HS and is young enough to do so without penalty) takes a year off before going full time as a PSU student and athlete this year, that would be a classic grayshirt.
 

KH1984

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Goodness, I’m so grateful I have all of you to help me correct my brain fart (even if after I corrected myself). It’s comforting to know you all have my back as the cognitive decline reaches its inevitable conclusion. 😂
I am in my 60's now, too. It's sometimes tough to pull a thread of a thought out. You younger bucks should be grateful you aren't old yet
 

Scam likely

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Actually, it's the exact OPPOSITE of a grayshirt year. In a grayshirt year, the athlete takes a year off of college without eligibility penalty. For example, if Jayden James (who has graduated from HS and is young enough to do so without penalty) takes a year off before going full time as a PSU student and athlete this year, that would be a classic grayshirt.
Didn't Brooks go to Olympic free style place in Colorado for a grey shirt?
 

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With James now effectively coming in with the 2027 class and after watching the four recruits at WNO, I'm thinking the 2027 class has the potential to become one of Cael's top 3 recruiting classes at Penn State. James, Sidun, Soto, Burnett, Shepherd, Mangano and Whitbread is pretty ridiculous.
it is an unbelievable abundance of riches.
125 Luke
133 Ono
141 Blaze,
49 i assume is a little bit of a question mark but could easily be Desmond
57 probably Jayden but could be Sealy
65 PJ but could be Jayden
74. PJ or Henckel
84 Rocco
97 Barr
Hvy.. still a Marisola

So Sidun will and Soto will sit at 125
Burnett will sit at 133
Mangano will sit at 141....
Sheperd and Manago may have a chance to start at 149 (depends on Desmond)
Jayden probably 65
Which means whitbread will sit
still have Henckel and Asher in the mix

what an embarrassment of riches!
 

Nitlion1986

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With James now effectively coming in with the 2027 class and after watching the four recruits at WNO, I'm thinking the 2027 class has the potential to become one of Cael's top 3 recruiting classes at Penn State. James, Sidun, Soto, Burnett, Shepherd, Mangano and Whitbread is pretty ridiculous.
Stop it! You know darn well next year is the time of the dynasty collapse. It's been prophesied on here multiple times by multiple PSU prophets. We will be lucky if the dynasty survives through this year. So it has been said.😆
 

Corby2

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it is an unbelievable abundance of riches.
125 Luke
133 Ono
141 Blaze,
49 i assume is a little bit of a question mark but could easily be Desmond
57 probably Jayden but could be Sealy
65 PJ but could be Jayden
74. PJ or Henckel
84 Rocco
97 Barr
Hvy.. still a Marisola

So Sidun will and Soto will sit at 125
Burnett will sit at 133
Mangano will sit at 141....
Sheperd and Manago may have a chance to start at 149 (depends on Desmond)
Jayden probably 65
Which means whitbread will sit
still have Henckel and Asher in the mix

what an embarrassment of riches!
What about Kasak ? He's back . 149 Mangano Shepard Herring would be my guess . 133 Burnett could be the guy. Ono who knows we have heard he's gonna wrestle for awhile now.
 
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