He is not a person to be taken seriously. He's a pervert getting off on the abuse / attention he gets here.
"We've won the war."
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1. Jennings is a stupid tw@t
2. Trump is going to walk away from Iran leading a more repressive, more radicalized regime charging tolls on ships passing through the Straits.
Has any poster in the history of HROT/HPOT ever created more self-own threads?
I stand by my long-held contention about his fetish.
I stand by my long-held contention about his fetish.
18 Americans dead
750 Americans wounded, many with injuries that will affect them for the rest of their lives
175 Iranian kids dead because of an oopsie by the US
US Navy facilities in Bahrain rendered unusable, and had to be largely abandoned
Critical US weapons stockpiles depleted, leaving the US vulnerable to Russian or Chinese aggression
The regime has not been changed in Iran
Iran still has its nuclear material, and there is no plan to make them give it up
Billions wasted by US consumers to pay for higher costs due to Trump's war
All to take the focus off of the Epstein files.
Google AI:
Saddam Hussein did not claim to have weapons of mass destruction (WMD) leading up to the 2003 invasion; instead, he and his government repeatedly insisted they had destroyed their chemical and biological stockpiles and ended their nuclear programs in the 1990s under United Nations supervision. [1, 2, 3]
You realize Google is just OSINT, not the entire intelligence picture, right? I'll at least grant you Saddam did publicly deny having WMDs. But Iraq also liked to play their little shell game of obsfutication dropping wild goose bread crumbs (for layman's sake) and deliberate ambiguity about capability. The point is, Saddam publicly said one thing while Iraq's behavior suggested something very different...and that's the crap that lead the IC to believe Iraq still had WMD. Would you agree that Iraq should have taught us to distinguish capability from intent and weaponization?
Yes. Iran had real nuclear capabilities and reasons for concern but the 2024 IC assessment said it was not undertaking the key work reqired to produce a viable device. Not to mention Trump told the American people back in June 2025 that strikes had "completely and totally obliterated" Iran’s key enrichment facilities. So which is it? The IC or Israel?
Ak, my point was that we should believe Iran.
What reason would they have for lying about it, when it is contrary to their long-time claims of developing nukes for peaceful use only?
Is the IC saying Iran was lying in that claim and that there is not a stockpile under pickaxe mountain?
Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs - CBS News
I'm not disputing Iran had a enrichment capability and enough material that (in theory) could potentially produce multiple weapons. But capability and stokpile are not the same thing as weaponization or intent. Even the IAEA quote in your article says so...and DIA said Iran was almost certainly not producing nuclear weapons.
Unfortunatley, I'm no longer actively in the IC...and if I were, obviously I'd be very limited in what I could say. My underlying point is we've had other tools in the past like sanctions, yugely successful cyber ops, diplomacy, etc. I'm just not convinced "they have the capability to build a bomb" meant we needed to start another dadgum war...especially when Trump repeatedly campaigned on "no new wars," yet here we are.
Fair points. I would have preferred more lawn mowings as needed, but now that we are in it, regime collapse from economic and military pressure is my hope - and seems a possibility if reports are true that Iran cannot meet its army payroll and so forth.
I'm not disputing Iran had a enrichment capability and enough material that (in theory) could potentially produce multiple weapons. But capability and stokpile are not the same thing as weaponization or intent. Even the IAEA quote in your article says so...and DIA said Iran was almost certainly not producing nuclear weapons.
Unfortunatley, I'm no longer actively in the IC...and if I were, obviously I'd be very limited in what I could say. My underlying point is we've had other tools in the past like sanctions, yugely successful cyber ops, diplomacy, etc. I'm just not convinced "they have the capability to build a bomb" meant we needed to start another dadgum war...especially when Trump repeatedly campaigned on "no new wars," yet here we are.
What say you?
Basically, that's where I am too. I'd have preferred we didn't go to war in the first place, but now that we're in it, we'd better finish it...while doing everything possible to minimize civilian casualties. I'd also prefer a lot less WH/Pentagon bravado and SM chest-thumping. Just do your darn jobs and focus on the mission...lives are at stake. This isn't some Alpha Male game. Great Leaders lead with humility.
Neither Churchill nor Patton led with humility, but I agree with your point.
WAR TRACKER | SATURDAY:- Conflict remains active.
- Scattered explosions throughout the region.
- Elevated levels of punditry and social-media bravado expected.
- Chance of regime collapse: 30%
- Outlook: War likely to continue through at least tomorrow. Check back for updates.
@NorthernHawkeye
- Conflict remains active.
- Scattered explosions throughout the region.
- Elevated levels of punditry and social-media bravado expected.
- Chance of regime collapse: 30%
- Outlook: War likely to continue through at least tomorrow. Check back for updates.
I don’t think it was to take the focus off the Epstein files. I think Israel has the Epstein files. They threaten Trump and got him to make us really really stupid decision.
Since they have said they are not developing nukes and that they are, which do you believe?
Congrats all. It only took til post #29 to get a 'but Biden' added to the mix.
Were they developing them prior to Trump’s war of choice or in response? A strong nuclear program is the best deterrent to fools wanting to attack.
Before, obviously. Are you really that poorly informed?
They would if we actually won. 6 months today
Iran, like Russia, among others have no problem with the suffering their citizens deal with as their country absorbs damage from others.
Iran laughs at what you call an ace whooping. They are a thousands of year old society that will just wait out the Americans worried about the next election cycle.
They don’t care.
And, no. We have not destroyed their ability to throw missiles, drones, and small boats at our Navy who is badly exposed “patrolling the Strait”.
Americans should not be ALLOWED to question our president like this!! If our president says we won the war then we won the war….PERIOD!
This idea that Americans are allowed to question our most sacred leaders is frankly UNAMERICAN!!!
This idea that Americans are allowed to question our most sacred leaders is frankly UNAMERICAN!!!
They have chaos and that’s it. And their ability to crest chaos is diminishing rapidly.
We will see how much longer they last. They are getting their ace whipped. Don’t ever underestimate the US military
Don’t ever underestimate the consequences of the upcoming midterms.
Don't overestimate the competency of those in this administration to properly lead it.
Wishful thinking is no way to live one’s life.
When one single $10K drone can disrupt billions of dollars a day of oil flowing through the Strait Iran will ALWAYS have the ability to create chaos.
This is literally why no one did what Trump did before - it was astonishing stupid.
Disrupt billions of dollars a day? Maybe.
But oil flows are at 80% plus of pre war levels. And that’s supposed to be Iran “winning?” The Iran is winning crownd is p.a.t.h.e.t.i.c.
Iran can barely cause chaos. Oil is $85 a barrel despite their efforts.
Their ability to build a bomb has been erased.
You think k stopping a hostile country from getting a nuclear weapon is stupidity? I don’t agree. Look at Irans behavior now? Lobbing missles at their neighbor? Irrational behavior and you can’t let irrationality get a nuke.
While it may not have gone perfectly, we will win. We are the US military. We are winning and we will win.
Outside of the Iran war, Trump is doing exactly what we want him too. And the Iran war is moving into the positivitie column by the day.
I don't think Iran is winning. I don't think anyone is winning. We are locked in a lose-lose struggle at the moment. The problem is we think of this as a zero sum game - either we win all or lose all. That is 20th century thinking. One would think Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq showed us the flaws in that thinking.
As for the nukes it is entirely laughable that y'all think they could have a nuke anytime soon. We kicked their a$$ with a couple bunker busting bombs in 2025. I am ALL FOR doing that as often as we see activity at their nuclear sites. But no, we had to go execute their entire leadership, attack their conventional military, bomb hundreds of school girls and the like.
As for "doing exactly what we want him to": Trump is deeply underwater with everyone except the absolute hardcore nutbags who continue to support him despite a mountain of evidence he is doing an awful job. He will go down in history as a monster and 10 years from now most of y'all will pretend you never supported him.
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