when the boomers are gone

AFM22 · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
This quote of his is hilarious because literally EVERYONE has been coming after Millennials since the early-mid 2000's. We dgaf because we collectively have a good sense of self but his fear mongering of "who do you think they're coming after next" is next level stupid. No one cares about Gen X and no one goes after them so I think his main character syndrome is a lil salty.

Boomers said Millennials sucked cuz they ordered Avocado Toast at restaurants as early as damn 2012

Are millennials killing the [insert anything Here] industry!?!?!?

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
I mean, Boomers DO have the thinnest skin of any Americans, probably in the history of our country. Gen X have never really cared about anything and expect to be overlooked and thus are overlooked, Millennials have main character syndrome and are entitled, and Gen Z is so online coded they can barely function in real life.

These are all stereotypes, and yes they can be a weakness and immature- but my only pushback would be that your statement is reductive in the "both sides" way, in that its irresponsible to say that "no generation has a weakness," yes, and yet some generations are able to cause more damage (and have) than others.

To say otherwise is dangerous imo. In the history of the world, almost ALL generations have been worried about the state of the world because of the generations following them.

Boomers have done this with Millennials and everyone else, and yet, Millennials don't really do that with Gen Z and Gen Alpha. They saw the lies the generation raised them on, and are mad at those before them, not worried about those that come after them.

You mistake me, as one of the last gen xers with clout that hasn't forgotten their youthful ideals once said, "come on, children, you're acting like children. Every generation thinks it's the end of the world"

We are all the same in that those that came before us made terrible mistakes they couldn't or wouldn't clean up, while simultaneously lionizing themselves and decrying the weak nature of those they raised.

And the stoic ones of each generation quietly avoid generalizations and build bridges in their communities.

Like my friend above said, beware the sheepdogs accentuate our differences in order to separate us from what we know is right.

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

AFM22 said:
Are millennials killing the [insert anything Here] industry!?!?!?

They were dead on their feet anyways, wait until you see what we do with the insurance industry when our parents die.

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OnlyTheObscure · Sep 4, 2026

Moogy said:
Bullshi.t. I have 5 nieces and nephews, all of whom are under 30 and own homes. Only 2 even went to college. None of them came from money. The 2 that went to college? One has a very low paying job doing what she loves, and the other is an RN, having graduated from a pretty unimpressive, cheap college. Neither of their spouses have very impressive employment. Yet they figured it out, with no financial help from their parents. Is it more challenging than at some other points in time? Sure. But this whining helplessness and blame-placing has to stop.

But many need that SUv and full size 4x4 to look good at HyVee. Also need big vacations, season tickets, and weekends at the brewery. You expect them not to dine out 4 times a week?

everybody makes financial choices everyday. The younger generation is too illiterate to even know it. I see new hires at work getting 7 brew delivered to the building. JFC

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
I mean, you make blanket positive statements all the time about boomers, and yet you were raised by the Silent Generation. You actually have no leg to stand on, nor do you know what boomers were like other than them being a generation before you.

Seems like you're an elder Gen X, and that must be tough as no one cares about you or your generation- but you don't need to white knight for Boomers.

All the things you've said in this thread, about "kids these days" having high expectations is for a reason. It's both a result of capitalism and the pollyannish worldview boomers had and passed on to their Millennial children and elder Gen Z kids. They also affected society in a way that furthered the capitalism dream that has led us to late stage capitalism, and now are mad that everyone isn't grateful for what they "sacrificed."

They're prudish, dogmatic, and (for the most part) see the world very black and white. They literally lived the sexual revolution in the 70's and then decided "that wasn't OK" and got collective sticks up their @SS.

Some of this is anecdotal, but tbh there are a ton of studies on generational philosophies and worldviews- I've read many, and it might be helpful for you to read some before you white knight for them more.

Also, (and this is for free), idk how you feel about Gen Z but they're SUPER boomer like in their worldview and behavior. Look up a few studies on the similarities- they suck in the same way. Gen Alpha seems pretty dope though

I'm not a white knight for boomers, I don't agree with some of the posters. It's not tough for me, because I'm living my life and I'm fine. I'm not spending my days blaming someone else because I have to pay for things. I'm good, but it seems some of you are not.

baltimorened · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
I believe there's more to consider. What was/is the sqft of the homes in 1960, 1969, and today. I'm going to guess that price per sq isn't going to be as far off as your numbers.

Edit: And if the sqft doesn't explain the different, then let's talk about the inside of the house and the differences there. The homes today are much bigger and nicer.

and don't forget mortgage rates. In late 1970s rates were as high as 15%..some higher, My first house was 13.5% in 1982

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

Huey Grey 2 said:
The anger against Boomers is deserved. They took as much as they could, gave as little back as they could, and now cry that anyone dare criticize them for their lousy choices.

You really need to get help.

baltimorened · Sep 4, 2026

PAWrocka said:
There is no way that is true … post the article again or send it via DM please.

im not doubting you Ned, I just want to read that article.

I don't have it. Like I posted it was months ago when there was a real debate going on about the inability of young workers today to buy homes. I don't know if there's a WSJ archive or something or whether you could google it..

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

Jerome Silberman said:
Who?

The people who feel the need to blame others for their problems. Take a look at pretty much everyone in this country, they all need someone to blame for their problems.

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
This quote of his is hilarious because literally EVERYONE has been coming after Millennials since the early-mid 2000's. We dgaf because we collectively have a good sense of self but his fear mongering of "who do you think they're coming after next" is next level stupid. No one cares about Gen X and no one goes after them so I think his main character syndrome is a lil salty.

Boomers said Millennials sucked cuz they ordered Avocado Toast at restaurants as early as damn 2012

When the boomers are gone, who are you going to blame? You need someone and you're certainly not going to blame yourself because it can't be you.

baltimorened · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
With the price of land, it's difficult to build a small house because the overall cost will be higher per sqft (when including the lot). I think you're misguided on the ordinances. In my area the lots are bigger because the ordinance is about undeveloped land. I don't know the exact number, but it's something like the house can't consume more than 40% of the lot. So as the houses got bigger, the lots had to get bigger. I think we probably all can agree we don't want to live in a neighborhood where the homes have no yards because the house is too big for the lot.

well with all that, I think we might at least agree that comparing homes the boomers bought in the 60-80s are different than today. So it's near to impossible to make apples to apples comparison.

Another part of the debate should include real wages and the budgeting things that cost more and have a direct impact of a couples ability to come up with a cash downpayment and make monthly payments....we didn't have mobile phones, internet, $40,000 cars, electricity was cheaper, gas was cheaper..and the list goes on..

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
I'm not a white knight for boomers, I don't agree with some of the posters. It's not tough for me, because I'm living my life and I'm fine. I'm not spending my days blaming someone else because I have to pay for things. I'm good, but it seems some of you are not.

This logic is odd to me- I'm glad you're doing fine. If someone critiques an aspect of society, or critiques a level of unfairness in society, does it imply they "aren't doing fine?" I think Boomers suck, and I think their pollannyish worldview had grievous repercussions on society. Hell, the majority of them voted for Trump. Clearly they have issues.

But also, I love my parents and am thankful for them. Boomers (as @scotchtiger mentioned) are hands on, physically present, and very consistent. They have alot of good qualities.

But to get defensive when people claim that alot of society's ills come from that generation is simply illogical and irrational. There are a myriad of ways they have really set society back, and to negate that is immature at best, and irresponsible at worst.

Critiquing is not an implication that the one doing the critique is "not ok." Calling out wrong doing is not negating the "good" thats been done by the same people who did the wrong things. Talking about one's grievances is not the same as "blaming" those who have their own story and nuance when doing said grievances.

Ultimately, boomers kinda suck because they can't see the nuance of things, nor can they hold multiple things to be true at the same time. And your defense of them kinda rings the same.

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
When the boomers are gone, who are you going to blame? You need someone and you're certainly not going to blame yourself because it can't be you.

This is where you are very very very wrong. Millennials are very fine to blame themselves- at our worst, we are guilt ridden, virtue signaling, no action pos. And we know this and hate it about ourselves. Even at our best, we want to believe the right things and not act on them, thus leading to immense amounts of guilt and shame. This is also why we have no problem calling others bs out as well- we feel it ourselves all the time.

We have no problem blaming ourselves big guy. You seem interested in this stuff- happy to recommend a few books (rather than a youtube video).

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
This logic is odd to me- I'm glad you're doing fine. If someone critiques an aspect of society, or critiques a level of unfairness in society, does it imply they "aren't doing fine?" I think Boomers suck, and I think their pollannyish worldview had grievous repercussions on society. Hell, the majority of them voted for Trump. Clearly they have issues.

But also, I love my parents and am thankful for them. Boomers (as @scotchtiger mentioned) are hands on, physically present, and very consistent. They have alot of good qualities.

But to get defensive when people claim that alot of society's ills come from that generation is simply illogical and irrational. There are a myriad of ways they have really set society back, and to negate that is immature at best, and irresponsible at worst.

Critiquing is not an implication that the one doing the critique is "not ok." Calling out wrong doing is not negating the "good" thats been done by the same people who did the wrong things. Talking about one's grievances is not the same as "blaming" those who have their own story and nuance when doing said grievances.

Ultimately, boomers kinda suck because they can't see the nuance of things, nor can they hold multiple things to be true at the same time. And your defense of them kinda rings the same.

Then it looks like all generations can't see the nuance of things. It just might be a people thing and not a generation thing.

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
The people who feel the need to blame others for their problems. Take a look at pretty much everyone in this country, they all need someone to blame for their problems.

If everyone is doing it, then it's not really a problem. More of a unified culture of puer aeternus.

If that's true, we deserve every bad thing that happens to us as we decend the stairs in our silk slippers.

Of course, nobody has to allow mild(or hyerbolic) criticism of an entire generation or the simple recognition that bad decisions have been made to jade them into abandoning their governing ethos either. Like I said earlier, it all smells like weakness to me.

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
This is where you are very very very wrong. Millennials are very fine to blame themselves- at our worst, we are guilt ridden, virtue signaling, no action pos. And we know this and hate it about ourselves. Even at our best, we want to believe the right things and not act on them, thus leading to immense amounts of guilt and shame. This is also why we have no problem calling others bs out as well- we feel it ourselves all the time.

We have no problem blaming ourselves big guy. You seem interested in this stuff- happy to recommend a few books (rather than a youtube video).

Honestly, I don't look at a whole generation and relate to it. I look at myself. I don't know what my generation is "known for". I'm certainly not trying to insult you at all, I'm just being honest with you.

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
Then it looks like all generations can't see the nuance of things. It just might be a people thing and not a generation thing.

So maybe the criticism of those in power is less about envy than you're consistently promoting?

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
Then it looks like all generations can't see the nuance of things. It just might be a people thing and not a generation thing.

I'd argue its hard for humans in general to see the nuance of things, and hold multiple things to be true at the same time.

And yet, being able to hold multiple things to be true at the same time/nuance in all things is actually what emotional maturity is. It enables us to understand other humans, have empathy for other humans, and also to discern and place trauma/hurt where it deserves.

For instance: because I believe this at my very core, I make blanket statements about boomers hyperbolically, while still understanding that they are a bunch of individuals who experienced a myriad of things in a certain time and place that I did not, while they still present in a certain problematic way in society. When I double down on the hyperbole, I'm unfair to them, but when I double down on the nuance of why they present the way they do, I give them too much leeway.

Idk man, I screw it up all the time. We all do. Actually wrestling with this stuff is what matters, and I really do think some people groups cause more harm than others. It's just reality- understanding why they do so helps, but it doesn't make the harm thats been done go away. And accountability matters, despite the circumstances that led to the actions that harmed others.

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
Honestly, I don't look at a whole generation and relate to it. I look at myself. I don't know what my generation is "known for". I'm certainly not trying to insult you at all, I'm just being honest with you.

One other thing- perhaps our divide is that I see individualism ALWAYS in context of the whole. As in, it's impossible to just "look at ourselves," because literally everyone in the world has been affected by, conditioned, and influenced by others. Humanity is a collective, and rugged individualism is simply a lie- we are a product of those that came before us, and those that come after us are a product of us. That's the responsibility of being Human and personhood.

DailyBuck7 · Sep 4, 2026

I am going to make 2 posts. One will get one group angry and the next will get the other group angry. I 100% agree that things are very tough for young people today. The starter homes that were available in the 50s & 60s are not available today. If you are 28 years old and in a moderately good job (say assistant manager at Macdonalds or at a bank), it is very difficult to buy a home and I can imagine these people feeling they have virtually no chance of buying a home in their lifetimes. Education is very expensive and not worth if for a substantial number of young people. (Although with AI and Zoom I can foresee very substantial structural changes in college education in the next 5 or 10 yrs.--through the eyes & experience of my college sophomore daughter who wonders what is the point of large lectures when there is zoom) I think making things more reasonable for younger adults in terms of home buying and education should be within the top 3 priorities of the country. One way to start is to limit the regulatory burdens and zoning burdens for builders. Another possible potential solution is to have a cultural shift in favor of condos which would involve heavy lifting but might have a very positive result.

I would add that in the past an auto or steel factory worker could have a very reasonable shot at owning his own house and having a decent retirement. Not the case today with many fairly highly educated young white collar workers. I would also forgive or allow bankruptcy for some student loans. If someone has tried for 10 or 15 years and still can't find work to pay off the loan, it is a form of slavery and there is no point to this person living in misery with no hope for the future. (One example that comes to mind was someone who couldn't make it as a lawyer and was working as a paralegal 12 yrs. later with no chance of paying off his student loan)

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

Jerome Silberman said:
So maybe the criticism of those in power is less about envy than you're consistently promoting?

I’m not promoting anything. I just don’t believe the boomers are the devil that some of the posters make them out to be.

tigres88 said:
I'd argue its hard for humans in general to see the nuance of things, and hold multiple things to be true at the same time.

And yet, being able to hold multiple things to be true at the same time/nuance in all things is actually what emotional maturity is. It enables us to understand other humans, have empathy for other humans, and also to discern and place trauma/hurt where it deserves.

For instance: because I believe this at my very core, I make blanket statements about boomers hyperbolically, while still understanding that they are a bunch of individuals who experienced a myriad of things in a certain time and place that I did not, while they still present in a certain problematic way in society. When I double down on the hyperbole, I'm unfair to them, but when I double down on the nuance of why they present the way they do, I give them too much leeway.

Idk man, I screw it up all the time. We all do. Actually wrestling with this stuff is what matters, and I really do think some people groups cause more harm than others. It's just reality- understanding why they do so helps, but it doesn't make the harm thats been done go away. And accountability matters, despite the circumstances that led to the actions that harmed others.

I have nothing against you and you’ve obviously put a lot of thought into this topic. My responses are for the people who make a blanket statement that boomers are the only problem and caused so much disruption. Blaming all their first world problems on boomers.

SB_SB · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
One other thing- perhaps our divide is that I see individualism ALWAYS in context of the whole. As in, it's impossible to just "look at ourselves," because literally everyone in the world has been affected by, conditioned, and influenced by others. Humanity is a collective, and rugged individualism is simply a lie- we are a product of those that came before us, and those that come after us are a product of us. That's the responsibility of being Human and personhood.

Careful when you look at the whole because you fail to see the individual or subgroup.

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
Careful when you look at the whole because you fail to see the individual or subgroup.

And yet the message we've been told for centuries is only to see the individual, no? Millennials and their self absorption and therapy culture only exacerbates this.

Seeing individuals as unique and valid but in the context of the time, place, and culture they exist in is the answer methinks. And that takes discernment and wisdom, which most have little time for one if not either.

tigres88 · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
I’m not promoting anything. I just don’t believe the boomers are the devil that some of the posters make them out to be.

I have nothing against you and you’ve obviously put a lot of thought into this topic. My responses are for the people who make a blanket statement that boomers are the only problem and caused so much disruption. Blaming all their first world problems on boomers.

And if the boomers caused more problems and disruptions than other people groups, what then? I blame boomers for alot because they experienced great hardship that produced great results. They expect the same, and how could they not? It was their experience.

But if the generations that followed experienced great hardships (which they did) and experienced results that were less than the boomers did or less than the positive results they were promised by the generation who raised them, what then?

Boomers promised that with great hardship comes great rewards. Millennials hardships were different than the boomers (perhaps less so) but were promised by boomers that if they overcame those hardships they would be rewarded immeasurably.

And yet, that wasn't the case. Maybe the children boomers raised have champagne expectations but a 2 buck Chuck reality. But who's fault is that really?

DailyBuck7 · Sep 4, 2026

tigres88 said:
And if the boomers caused more problems and disruptions than other people groups, what then? I blame boomers for alot because they experienced great hardship that produced great results. They expect the same, and how could they not? It was their experience.

But if the generations that followed experienced great hardships (which they did) and experienced results that were less than the boomers did or less than the positive results they were promised by the generation who raised them, what then?

Boomers promised that with great hardship comes great rewards. Millennials hardships were different than the boomers (perhaps less so) but were promised by boomers that if they overcame those hardships they would be rewarded immeasurably.

And yet, that wasn't the case. Maybe the children boomers raised have champagne expectations but a 2 buck Chuck reality. But who's fault is that really?

I agree that boomers were generally poor parents who were too easy on their children. They originated participation trophies. Also, the decline of religion took the meaning and purpose of life away for many and also that there were principles and community loyalty that were above pure self-interest.

Hendy Hawk · Sep 4, 2026

scotchtiger said:
This is a good point. Both sets of my grandparents lived in ~1200 square foot one story ranch homes with carpet, linoleum kitchen and bath floors, popcorn ceilings, super basic finishes, etc etc.

Even vinyl villages now are far more posh. Not even considering nicely built homes. And much, much larger.

You just explained what I live in right now. Remodeled a bit over the years.
I'm a Boomer.

DailyBuck7 · Sep 4, 2026

And with respect to millennials many are not that bright or motivated. From a Wall Street Journal articlefrom 10/9/2017

“The Scotts Miracle-Gro Co. has started offering gardening lessons for young homeowners that cover basic tips—really, really basic—like making sure sunlight can reach plants.” ....

The story was actually broader than gardening. It described several companies trying to teach millennials basic household skills:

Scotts Miracle-Gro — basic gardening
Home Depot — how to use a tape measure and other DIY skills
West Elm — home-related skills
Sherwin-Williams — choosing paint
Other retailers — things such as mowing a lawn, mopping, and hammering a nail."

Additionally, there is much evidence that Millenials are poorly motivated. Here is a Gallup poll:

"Gallup recently released what is believed to be the most robust and comprehensive study of the millennial generation to date. This research combined more than 30 separate studies and included more than 1 million respondents.

The report, How Millennials Want to Work and Live, revealed that only 29% of millennials are engaged at work, with the remaining 71% either not engaged or actively disengaged. What's more, six in 10 millennials say they're open to different job opportunities, and only 50% plan to be with their company one year from now." https://news.gallup.com/businessjournal/195209/few-millennials-engaged-work.aspx

On top of the above, it is hard to believe that Millennials would make good parents, and unfortunately the next generation is handicapped by the shortcomings of their parents.

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
I’m not promoting anything. I just don’t believe the boomers are the devil that some of the posters make them out to be.

Some of them most definitely are, and like you pointed out, most aren't. BFD.

You'll still have to steel yourself to see and hear a little hyperbole and broad brushing about generational political impacts if you're going to spend time in a place like this. It's not new, it's not necessarily entirely unwarranted and it's certainly being reciprocated.

IMO, the pearl clutching is way more obnoxious than "the youth are lazy and rudderless" or "old peopke are out of touch". Besides, if the most politically impactful generation in modern history becomes a sacred cow, how the hell are we supposed to learn from their mistakes?

hawkeyetraveler · Sep 4, 2026

SB_SB said:
Anyone who thinks the boomers were "handed their wealth" is really clueless. I'm not part of the boomers but I respect what they accomplished and we're all living a better life because of them. Now might be a good time to tell the boomers around you, Thank you

Ummm…not sure if serious. Have you seen the state of our federal debt?

The boomer generation literally borrowed money from future generations so they can have low taxes. Money they will never repay.

it is immoral.

Urohawk · Sep 4, 2026

Jerome Silberman · Sep 4, 2026

hawkeyetraveler said:
Ummm…not sure if serious. Have you seen the state of our federal debt?

The boomer generation literally borrowed money from future generations so they can have low taxes. Money they will never repay.

it is immoral.

The way it's accelerating in the third act, it's like pulling up the ladder and sealing the hatch was the plan all along.

SB_SB · Sep 5, 2026

tigres88 said:
And if the boomers caused more problems and disruptions than other people groups, what then? I blame boomers for alot because they experienced great hardship that produced great results. They expect the same, and how could they not? It was their experience.

But if the generations that followed experienced great hardships (which they did) and experienced results that were less than the boomers did or less than the positive results they were promised by the generation who raised them, what then?

Boomers promised that with great hardship comes great rewards. Millennials hardships were different than the boomers (perhaps less so) but were promised by boomers that if they overcame those hardships they would be rewarded immeasurably.

And yet, that wasn't the case. Maybe the children boomers raised have champagne expectations but a 2 buck Chuck reality. But who's fault is that really?

I don't know who these boomers were that promised a bigger reward. When the next generation expects a bigger reward than the previous, that's called entitlement. There are no guarantees in life. Some people get cancer and die, some people lose their jobs, and some people make it big. I certainly wasn't promised anything as a kid, and I've never promised my kids they'd be better off than me.

hawkeyetraveler · Sep 5, 2026

SB_SB said:
I don't know who these boomers were that promised a bigger reward. When the next generation expects a bigger reward than the previous, that's called entitlement. There are no guarantees in life. Some people get cancer and die, some people lose their jobs, and some people make it big. I certainly wasn't promised anything as a kid, and I've never promised my kids they'd be better off than me.

Do you believe it was moral for the boomers to increase the federal debt burden for their children and grandchildren so they can have more take home income by lowering taxes?

We have crumbling infrastructure, debt is asininely high and you are touting working hard all while praising a generation that did not pay their own way?

Honestly that is horsesh*t.

scotchtiger · Sep 5, 2026

DailyBuck7 said:
And with respect to millennials many are not that bright or motivated. From a Wall Street Journal articlefrom 10/9/2017

“The Scotts Miracle-Gro Co. has started offering gardening lessons for young homeowners that cover basic tips—really, really basic—like making sure sunlight can reach plants.” ....

The story was actually broader than gardening. It described several companies trying to teach millennials basic household skills:

Scotts Miracle-Gro — basic gardening
Home Depot — how to use a tape measure and other DIY skills
West Elm — home-related skills
Sherwin-Williams — choosing paint
Other retailers — things such as mowing a lawn, mopping, and hammering a nail."

Additionally, there is much evidence that Millenials are poorly motivated. Here is a Gallup poll:

"Gallup recently released what is believed to be the most robust and comprehensive study of the millennial generation to date. This research combined more than 30 separate studies and included more than 1 million respondents.

The report, How Millennials Want to Work and Live, revealed that only 29% of millennials are engaged at work, with the remaining 71% either not engaged or actively disengaged. What's more, six in 10 millennials say they're open to different job opportunities, and only 50% plan to be with their company one year from now." https://news.gallup.com/businessjournal/195209/few-millennials-engaged-work.aspx

On top of the above, it is hard to believe that Millennials would make good parents, and unfortunately the next generation is handicapped by the shortcomings of their parents.

I can’t speak for all millennials, but this certainly isn’t true of me or my peers. Perhaps it’s because we are older millennials? I’m 43. Still, I’d be careful generalizing. Not sure you want to compare resumes when it comes to being “bright and motivated” …

SB_SB · Sep 5, 2026

hawkeyetraveler said:
Ummm…not sure if serious. Have you seen the state of our federal debt?

The boomer generation literally borrowed money from future generations so they can have low taxes. Money they will never repay.

it is immoral.

Finally someone brought up a valid topic. Yes the debt is terrible, and that is a problem. I'll tell you, taxes weren't lowered for me or people in my tax bracket. I didn't get cheap loans when I bought my first house. Maybe taxes were lowered for the rich, but to me that has nothing to do with the generation, has to do with rich people calling the shots.

SB_SB · Sep 5, 2026

hawkeyetraveler said:
Do you believe it was moral for the boomers to increase the federal debt burden for their children and grandchildren so they can have more take home income by lowering taxes?

We have crumbling infrastructure, debt is asininely high and you are touting working hard all while praising a generation that did not pay their own way?

Honestly that is horsesh*t.

That wasn't the boomers doing that, it was the rich. My taxes weren't lowered.

hawkeyetraveler · Sep 5, 2026

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SB_SB said:
That wasn't the boomers doing that, it was the rich. My taxes weren't lowered.

Fair enough, although by and large the boomers are the generation that voted in the politicians who lowered taxes for the wealthy.

SB_SB · Sep 5, 2026

hawkeyetraveler said:
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Fair enough, although by and large the boomers are the generation that voted in the politicians who lowered taxes for the wealthy.

The problem isn't an age issue, it's not a party issue, it's a people issue. I've seen your posts about the DSA, and your concern that when people get power they tend to abuse it. There's a lot of people on the left that are for the DSA because they think everyone is going to benefit from it. But we all know that the real people that will benefit are the leaders, the average person will be screwed with socialism.

But you're right, the debt is a huge problem and is still a problem. But I haven't heard a single group or party with any answers or willing to do what's necessary to fix the issue. It's a people problem.

baltimorened · Sep 5, 2026

SB_SB said:
The problem isn't an age issue, it's not a party issue, it's a people issue. I've seen your posts about the DSA, and your concern that when people get power they tend to abuse it. There's a lot of people on the left that are for the DSA because they think everyone is going to benefit from it. But we all know that the real people that will benefit are the leaders, the average person will be screwed with socialism.

But you're right, the debt is a huge problem and is still a problem. But I haven't heard a single group or party with any answers or willing to do what's necessary to fix the issue. It's a people problem.

from data on retirement where 50% of boomers won't have enough for retirement, and just a quick analysis of which generation made the billionaires, I tend to agree that it's the people as opposed to the generation...The most villifed billionaires today, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Musk are not boomers...

We are, or were, a country of individualists. There is opportunity, but you need to seize it. Someone brought up about how wealth was handed to boomers, maybe for some, but definitely not for all. Remember, it was boomers who were sucked up by the draft in the 60s and shipped off to Vietnam...

OnlyTheObscure · Sep 5, 2026

hawkeyetraveler said:
Do you believe it was moral for the boomers to increase the federal debt burden for their children and grandchildren so they can have more take home income by lowering taxes?

We have crumbling infrastructure, debt is asininely high and you are touting working hard all while praising a generation that did not pay their own way?

Honestly that is horsesh*t.

The next generations will make the debt a lot worse.

nobody is campaigning on spending cuts and tax increases.

when the boomers are gone

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