Western Michigan just got absolutely raped by the officials

LafayetteBear

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The Wolverines have won SO MANY games with the benefit of sketchy calls like this that fans at some other Big Ten schools refer to them as the "Referines."
 
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TimmyD97

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This. The blame lies with the officials and the B1G — not Michigan.

I detest Michigan and WMU certainly was robbed. That last play never should have occurred. But Michigan didn't have the ball inside the 5. WMU sh#t the bed and gave up a terrible Hail Mary TD, which is on them.
They also could have iced the game on a 3rd and 2 right before that but somehow the center did a normal snap on a shotgun formation and they were lucky to jump on the loose ball and get the fg chance.

Told my buddy that they left the door open after it happened, cant do stuff like that at the big house
 
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o_wausauhawk

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WMU officials now agreeing everything was legit at the end.

I'm guessing some $$$ was added to their game payment from Michigan AD.

Likely an extension and more money in the future. And…. You want to play is on the future? Bend over and take it in the ace today.
Exactly. MAC schools are paid handsomely to show up & lose. I'm not sure those athletic depts survive without the buy-in games. They're in no position to raise a stink
 
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TJ8869

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I want to know what clock they're showing. Like I said before, that clock - wherever it is - had to be showing 10 seconds at the start of the play since the broadcast clock had just been reset to 9 seconds. Show that entire play with that same clock. I want to see it from beginning to end.
The clocks should have been synced because the previous play was a spike and the referee announced that the game clock was 9 seconds.

The only thing I can figure is that the scoreboard clock started a fraction of a second sooner than the official game clock at the snap.
 
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tarheelbybirth1

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The clocks should have been synced because the previous play was a spike and the referee announced that the game clock was 9 seconds.

The only thing I can figure is that the scoreboard clock started a fraction of a second sooner than the official game clock at the snap.
That's why I want to see that "game clock" from snap to finish.
 
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That's why I want to see that "game clock" from snap to finish.
I hand-timed the play several times with a stopwatch. To the best of my ability, starting exactly when the ball is snapped and stopping the moment the ball touches the defender’s hands, I get 8.3 seconds.

At the snap of the ball, the scoreboard clock almost instantly changes ftom 0:09 to 0:08. I don’t know this for certain, but since the clock does not include tenths of a second, I am assuming that when the clock reads 8 seconds it could be anything from 8.0 to 8.9. So when the ball touched the defender’s hands, the scoreboard clock showed 0:00 but was actually 0:00.7.

My theory is that the mysterious “official” clock didn’t start until at least 0.3 seconds after the snap, so it still showed 0:01.

Maybe football needs to follow basketball’s lead and show tenths of a second when the clock goes below a minute.
 
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tarheelbybirth1

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I hand-timed the play several times with a stopwatch. To the best of my ability, starting exactly when the ball is snapped and stopping the moment the ball touches the defender’s hands, I get 8.3 seconds.

At the snap of the ball, the scoreboard clock almost instantly changes ftom 0:09 to 0:08. I don’t know this for certain, but since the clock does not include tenths of a second, I am assuming that when the clock reads 8 seconds it could be anything from 8.0 to 8.9. So when the ball touched the defender’s hands, the scoreboard clock showed 0:00 but was actually 0:00.7.

My theory is that the mysterious “official” clock didn’t start until at least 0.3 seconds after the snap, so it still showed 0:01.

Maybe football needs to follow basketball’s lead and show tenths of a second when the clock foes below a minute.
What I'd really like to see would be the play, the secret clock, and the scoreboard clock all in the same shot. See where the discrepancy lies. You're right though...without tenths of a second, it's pretty much "mute".
 

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I hand-timed the play several times with a stopwatch. To the best of my ability, starting exactly when the ball is snapped and stopping the moment the ball touches the defender’s hands, I get 8.3 seconds.

At the snap of the ball, the scoreboard clock almost instantly changes ftom 0:09 to 0:08. I don’t know this for certain, but since the clock does not include tenths of a second, I am assuming that when the clock reads 8 seconds it could be anything from 8.0 to 8.9. So when the ball touched the defender’s hands, the scoreboard clock showed 0:00 but was actually 0:00.7.

My theory is that the mysterious “official” clock didn’t start until at least 0.3 seconds after the snap, so it still showed 0:01.

Maybe football needs to follow basketball’s lead and show tenths of a second when the clock goes below a minute.
Not necessary in football. Zero means zero. In pretty much all of football history there's never been a problem like this. Maybe they should follow basketballs lead and just not have mysterious secret clocks.
 

gohawks50

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The change in emotion for the Western Michigan players after the officials put 1 second back on the clock reminded me of the change in emotion for Iowa after DeJean's "not a fair catch signal".
 
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Michigan has the best gummies and carts.
That’s laughable. Plenty of articles online that say otherwise due to so many licensees given out to growers and also from first hand experience from multiple shops and brands. I would agree if you would’ve said the cheapest
 

AFM22

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I hand-timed the play several times with a stopwatch. To the best of my ability, starting exactly when the ball is snapped and stopping the moment the ball touches the defender’s hands, I get 8.3 seconds.

At the snap of the ball, the scoreboard clock almost instantly changes ftom 0:09 to 0:08. I don’t know this for certain, but since the clock does not include tenths of a second, I am assuming that when the clock reads 8 seconds it could be anything from 8.0 to 8.9. So when the ball touched the defender’s hands, the scoreboard clock showed 0:00 but was actually 0:00.7.

My theory is that the mysterious “official” clock didn’t start until at least 0.3 seconds after the snap, so it still showed 0:01.

Maybe football needs to follow basketball’s lead and show tenths of a second when the clock goes below a minute.
But how often does NCAA football go by a fraction of a second?
 
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That’s laughable. Plenty of articles online that say otherwise due to so many licensees given out to growers and also from first hand experience from multiple shops and brands. I would agree if you would’ve said the cheapest
My experience is they have the most potent THC.
 
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tarheelbybirth1

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this is a rare instance when the could simply take away the last play and declare the game ended on the incomplete pass

it's the big ten, so they probably won't. but they actually could fix this if they wanted to
Per NCAA rules, the game is over when the on-field officials rule it over. There is no appeal. The best WMU can hope for is an admission that there was a technical glitch in the secret clock and the added second was an error. The final score still stands.
 

fatpiggy

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Per NCAA rules, the game is over when the on-field officials rule it over. There is no appeal. The best WMU can hope for is an admission that there was a technical glitch in the secret clock and the added second was an error. The final score still stands.
Fine. But every ranking service should count it as a loss. Because it was a loss.

BigTen can call it whatever they want. We all know what happened.
 

AFM22

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Fine. But every ranking service should count it as a loss. Because it was a loss.
I guess I disagree. I thought it was an L, almost everyone who watched it did. But it's not an L. It will go in the record books as a W.

To alter the outcome in the rankings just because we don't like it creates a slippery slope.

It's one thing for the human polls to rank them based on their bad performance, but a 1-0 still goes after their name in the polls. A computer won't know that when someone deliberately enters false information.
 
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