Terry Francona is part of the problem...

NociHTTP

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How that guy can be relieved the front office isn't leaving, is beyond me. Is it any more obvious that he's just concerned about his own paycheck and stat-padding? Rebuild the whole damn thing!
 

Catman100

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As a big time Redsox fan, I can tell you Tito is a hell of a manager, and the Reds are lucky to have him.
He wants to keep his job, but he should not be a part of a rebuild.
Only rebuild that will help is ownership.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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I can't believe we run Hayes out there to bat. Absolute ******* malfeasance. Friedl too.

Clown.

Show.
Wow Hayes slash line
A whole 31 hits on the year


.146

.203

.236

Freidl has a whole 38 hits!
At least he has shown he can produce at a major league level the prior years before this.


.162

.247

.247

Batting averages have plunged across the league, but this is bad bad.
 
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UKortho

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Matt McLain, TJ, K Hayes, shouldn’t be playing in MLB. Signed Geno (regressed). Let Nick Martinez go- now rumored to pay Singer around $20MM for one year. Hopefully they have been paying attention to his last several starts.

Their franchise pitcher- Greene- is getting ready for Tommy John, last years all star Abbott looks out of shape and can’t get through 4 innings lately. Lodolo not much better when he actually pitches. Gets blisters every other month. Lowder might be ok. Too soon to tell. Bledays average went from like .280 to .225 (started right after he appeared on MLB channel talking about his new and improved swing). Dropped CES who is now playing very well FOR ANOTHER team! Tito is soft. Wants everyone to love him. Marte? lol he just doesn’t give a crap. I could probably go on, but that’s my two cents.
Elly, Sal, and Chase are the only folks you can count on.

Edit- bob should sell but I bet the team kicks off significant cash. Krall has nude pics on someone
 
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MegaBlue05

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Lifelong Cincinnati pro sports fan, Reds and Bengals. Born in 80. For the Reds, 1990 was nice. 1994 and 1995 was pretty good. Brief spark in the 2010s. Everything else uas pretty much sucked.

When Bengals ownership is the most competent ownership in the city, there’s a problem.
 

NociHTTP

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Those that don’t want a floor believe they can’t afford to compete with the big spenders so they might as well tank. Put a cap in and the no floor group will go away imo.
The players don't want a cap. And not putting a floor in guarantees teams will tank. Both are required.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Reds are hopeless. Don’t watch until Bob sells the team. Elly will be in a mets or yankees uniform soon.
The guy obviously has no interest in fielding a decent team. The value of teams has never been higher. They have a relatively new stadium. Sell the team while the value is very high and make the money he wants to make and let someone who will actually field a team buy it.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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If you are a Reds fan, pray for a lockout and a salary cap and MINIMUM.
The owners must draw a hard line in the sand over a cap. If they don’t the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets(if they ever figure out roster construction), and the like will continue to buy the best teams and players. LAD make so much more money than all the other teams outside the NYY that it’s insane. They can’t continue to be allowed to spend 500m a year with no downside other than some taxes they obviously don’t care about paying. The Braves spend over 250m and they can’t even compare to the top 6 or 7 spenders which is insane.
 

NociHTTP

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I remember when they hired him, people were saying what a great hire it was. Baseball manager is WAY over rated
A great manager, one who demands excellence and who isn't afraid to make the right decisions and who can make the right decisions without burning half a season, are not overrated. Francona is overrated.
 
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How that guy can be relieved the front office isn't leaving, is beyond me. Is it any more obvious that he's just concerned about his own paycheck and stat-padding? Rebuild the whole damn thing!
Doesn't matter the manager it starts at the very top with any Cincinnati team.... That's the reason I can't root for any of them.
 

HogCoyote

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I can't ******* believe Krall still has a job. Tito, I'm willing to bet, rides off into the sunset when a strike in '27 is announced. Why wait another year to coach this clown show?
Because its free money to goof around in a clubhouse with absolutely no pressure to win.
 

NociHTTP

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Doesn't matter the manager it starts at the very top with any Cincinnati team.... That's the reason I can't root for any of them.
It does matter the manager. You can't sit there with a straight face and say that Francona doesn't frequently leave guys in too long or allow them to play through long streaks of suckitude when any other manager not preoccupied with a bag of seeds would have made some kind of change. He alone has led them to losses this season. But, yes, it's on the front office to recognize these things and give two sheets about it. That doesn't excuse you never rooting for the Reds.
 
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It does matter the manager. You can't sit there with a straight face and say that Francona doesn't frequently leave guys in too long or allow them to play through long streaks of suckitude when any other manager not preoccupied with a bag of seeds would have made some kind of change. He alone has led them to losses this season. But, yes, it's on the front office to recognize these things and give two sheets about it. That doesn't excuse you never rooting for the Reds.
The Reds and the Bengals have always had **** front offices ever since I can remember and I'm 46 years old. I honestly can't stand professional sports anymore even though college is there now...
 
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