Great win but qb has to improve
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He throws a good ball too. Nice arc, spin, and touch.
He’s tremendous, if he keeps up this pace his stats will be amazing.
Take Terry Wilson for example. We had a really great year in 2018 with him. 13GP- 1889 yards/11TD/8INT
Kenny almost matched that in 5 games with 1 pick. Here are his stats extrapolated to the same 13 game sample size.
Simply extending his current per-game production over a 13-game regular season:
| Stat | 13-Game Projection |
|---|---|
| Completions | 252 |
| Attempts | 369 |
| Completion % | 68.3% |
| Passing yards | 2,985 |
| Yards/attempt | 8.1 |
| Passing TDs | 29 |
| INTs | 3 |
| Passer rating | ~160 |
| Passing yards/game | 229.6 |
If we recruited a QB from HS or the portal and you told us those would be his stats at the end of the year everyone would be like we must get him!
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How many times have we had QBs make successive scoring passes to win a game, SEC or otherwise, especially when we are the underdog. There is no question that what Minchey did was very special.
He made a great play but it wasn't the portion you focus on. On the 2 pt conversion, he identified a blitz. He slid protection and made sure Baxter knew who he was responsible for. That was elite operation, which i talked about often in this thread.
The two throws were the easiest part of those two plays. Both times guys were schemed wide open. The second time it was a single defender read so there is that.
Massive kudos to those play designs and the hustle to the line. Massive kudos to minchey for elite operation and getting the protection ironed out.
30TDs to 3 picks with 3,000 yards sounds like a 5 star to me.
He usually has nice touch on short passes as well.
Pretty much. I doubt he stays at that level of TD/INT, but it’s a remarkable start and he plays smart.
This is the best qb we've had in years...we haven't had one that could even remotely read anything that was going on at goal line when we were going for 2
So....are you giving him credit for those plays that he identifies the defense and gets us into the right play/protection....
I think he's a ton better than you giver him credit for. I'd say Minchey will be a top half SEC QB on the year.....
Right now for sure hes' better than
Tennessee
Texas AM
Vandy
LSU (I'm sorry but Leavitt is not a good QB today)
Arkansas
Auburn
Oklahoma
What a horrible take by the OP. By all means show me when the last time a qb, returning or first year, had better stats through 5 games. I’ll wait for the long list. Im trying to remember a better quarterback in recent years and I don’t think there is one. Put me in the extremely thankful and happy we got Minchey column.
I said many times his operation is elite. Its post snap where he needs to improve. He's taking short stuff when the deeper route is open. He is leaving probably 75 yards per game on the field.
He can grow. Against SC he finally started climbing the pocket and got some firsts with his legs. Till now, he was reluctant to do that. He'd escape horizontal and get caught. That's huge.
Hopefully he starts fully taking advantage of what this offense is giving him. It will be the difference between a good season and a special one
The throw on the TD was probably not easy. He had to step up into the collapsing pocket, be patient, and was really feeling pressure on his right and then that little loopy toss seems easy but QBs screw that up all the time by putting too much on the ball. It was not a pretty throw, but it was easy to catch. Succinctly, the circumstances made that an easy throw to eff up. I thought that was very impressive.
Kenny had to do it but he gave the coaches all the credit. They prepped him for that very formation and told him exactly how to address the shown pressure. It was a great combo of coaching and execution.
I do not know that I agree with the OP, but Stein has said that KM’s best ball is still in front of him. He is still learning how to apply his skills and intelligence to actual game speed and situations. Kenny is really smart and is really dedicated to getting better and learning. I agree for this offense to continue against this schedule, KM needs to continue his trajectory and be more consistent. The really good news is we are 4-1 with 2 SEC road wins and KM has seemingly gotten better most weeks. Our offense will have to put up points this weekend. Our defense is dinged and limited. Kenny is going to have to bring his best so far.
For a game winner it literally couldn't get easier. Of course it was a pressure situation but it was akin to making an open layup as time expired.
Fyi he also had darby open too because of elite play design but will rod was just a bust and he almost dropped it.
Also fyi the subtly elite element of that play design was having Baxter lined up wide then motion in ACROSS the formation. Coming across the formation made the defense all bump coverage by one defender, which ultimately caused the bust for will rod. It also was what got darby open because Baxter coming across to blitz pickup caused his defender to collide with Darby's getting him open too.
Just beyond elite play design. Elite operation by minchey sliding pass pro left and getting baxter on assignment. The throw was easy as it gets for a game winner.
Qb is a bright spot on our team don't really know what OP is talking about
Minchey finally came alive in the four minute drill and took advantage of elite play design on the 2pt conversion. What a win!
However leading up, he had probably his worst game of the season. Multiple missed reads that resulted in wide open guys just getting missed. Lucky to avoid one pick. Plus really sailed a ball to willie towards the end.
Overall, very happy with his play on the season. However everyone else picked him up last night. That special teams td made the difference. If he elevates his game, we really will be in the hunt for the playoffs, which is insane to think given the strength of schedule.
However leading up, he had probably his worst game of the season. Multiple missed reads that resulted in wide open guys just getting missed. Lucky to avoid one pick. Plus really sailed a ball to willie towards the end.
Overall, very happy with his play on the season. However everyone else picked him up last night. That special teams td made the difference. If he elevates his game, we really will be in the hunt for the playoffs, which is insane to think given the strength of schedule.
Minchey barely half a season into starting has 2 huge SEC road wins at tough stadiums and a major upset of a top 10 legit title contender.
That is incredible.
He is doing it with a brand new coach to boot.
UK hasn’t had a QB like him in modern times and he hasn’t even hit his stride yet.
Andre is the closest but he was a JR with real run under his belt before he hit his stride with a coach who had 40 years of coaching experience.
That is incredible.
He is doing it with a brand new coach to boot.
UK hasn’t had a QB like him in modern times and he hasn’t even hit his stride yet.
Andre is the closest but he was a JR with real run under his belt before he hit his stride with a coach who had 40 years of coaching experience.
Minchey marched down the field to set the game tying field goal up with no timeouts perfectly. He also has now two weeks in a row made a decision in OT to win. He moved Baxter over last week to pick up the blitz (it worked) then he made the decision to run tonight (also worked). Much of the 2nd half they shut the run game down completely and tee’d off brining pressure when he dropped back. We have a really good QB. Get behind him
I’m fine with minchey…but let’s get realistic…Stein is putting him in elite position to succeed…not even close to other way around
minchey made a good number of not running the ball hard and cost us first downs, special teams td, huge run set up first td…
Stein is setting up two point plays to win game etc. I’m fine with minchey but once we get a stronger runner…I think this offense takes a leap
Exactly. Imagine leavitt in this offense? That dude runs the ball with purpose. I can't believe how good he was running.
Minchey is super conservative. We certainly don't need him to be a gunslinger type but he left at least one TD on the field last night and almost surely another too.
If he evolves just a little more, we're really going to be in business.
First year starter.
He has answered the call in every critical situation.
Earlier in the game he did look like he was panicing for no reason at points, but the FG drive and conversion were chef's kiss
The better on paper guy lost. Give me Minchey’s results over big numbers and a loss every day of the week.
Its a team sport.
Minchey is playing well, like I said, but he cannot leave a td or two on the field every game. We can get to another level but only if he does.
You don’t hide your biases very well. It seems like you spend every game just looking for any sort of mistakes or flaws in Minchey that you can then run here to post about. You’ve had a distinctly noticeable agenda against the kid ever since you took the “Boley better than Minchey” stance months ago.
I already know you’re gonna be insufferable the first time Minchey has a truly awful game. Which WILL happen, because it eventually happens to virtually every QB, especially ones in their first ever year as a starter. But when that happens, it will not mean you were right.
Pathological **** man. Be happy ffs.
Minchey already had an awful game vs bama, which i pointed out at the time.
I have no bias at all. I point out the good and bad. I do this with every qb starting with levis back in the day and most bashed me then too. Thats why i make sure to point out where he is good.
Tale of two Kennies. Kenny struggled but in crunch time he was spectacular. Not just a little. He was excellent.
- First Half: 6-of-9 for 40 passing yards (plus a rushing touchdown) as Kentucky led 21–17 at the break.
- Second Half & Overtime: 17-of-27 for 206 passing yards (including 131 yards in the fourth quarter).
Good example of what i mean when I say the qb leave lots of opportunities on the field. This happens a few times a game where he just misses wide open guys and either throws it away or throws short.
He is playing well but can produce much more. He came alive in the final two drives although was very fortunate the ball to darby was not picked. He is elite in operation and leadership. If we're going to the next level, he cannot continue to miss open guys for big gains 2-3 times a game.
First football season? Every qb leaves opportunities on the field, but you dont watch their behind the play film.
The guy has ONE turnover all year and it was against Alabama
I said he's playing good. We just need better.
He's thrown several that should've been picked including the one to darby in crunch time and another a few minutes earlier was almost a pick 6.
Casual fans have the natural tendency to give the qb too much praise or criticism. That's understandable.
Again minchey had been good. He is elite in operation. We just need him better post snap because eventually leaving chunk plays on the field or throwing balls to defenders is going to cost us
Here is the pass that should've been a pick 6 but the defender took a bad angle.
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