Why do maggots favor Russia over Ukraine?
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They're of the same mindset as Germans who were early devotees of Hitler. They're prone to irrational dedication to a person/thing and they're easily victimized by propaganda.
well, I asked the question because I thought you had some specific people in mind..I don't think most Americans or "maggots" have a "favorite" in this war. Most just want to see it end.
Incorrect. Most normal Americans would like to see Russia leave Ukraine, and the war would be over. Most normal Americans don't view our known enemies AND allies in the same light.
But maggots do. In fact, most maggots are pulling for Russia, trump's favorite.
I mean, most NORMAL Americans would rather Russia not invade Ukraine (psychotic behavior), or the U.S. engage in a war of CHOICE against Iran either (equally psychotic behavior).
Fascists love to do fascism though. Our President is actively supporting one instance of fascism and actively started another. Sad!
Fascists love to do fascism though. Our President is actively supporting one instance of fascism and actively started another. Sad!
The Wall Street Journal editorial titled “To Russia with Love, signed Donald” criticized President Donald Trump for waiving major economic and energy sanctions against Russia just weeks after signing the bipartisan Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026 into law.
Key Details of the Editorial and Backlash
Key Details of the Editorial and Backlash
- The Action: President Trump moved to set aside or waive newly enacted sanctions and tariff authorities targeting Russia’s oil, defense, and shadow tanker fleet.
- The Journal's Stance: The Wall Street Journal Opinion board condemned the waiver, describing Trump's assistance to Vladimir Putin as growing by the day and calling the move a betrayal of the legacy of the late Senator Lindsey Graham.
- Congressional Reaction: GOP Senator Bill Cassidy amplified the editorial, writing on social media that both Ronald Reagan and Lindsey Graham would be ashamed of Trump's decision to ease pressure on Moscow.
The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board sharply criticized President Donald Trump, stating that he has become Vladimir Putin’s best friend in the world following his decision to waive key Russian energy sanctions and tariffs. The board argued that the move serves as a multi-billion-dollar windfall for Moscow and signals an alignment toward pushing Ukraine to surrender on the Kremlin's terms. Read the full story at WSJ.
The entire episode with Russia, diesel, and sanctions is a head scratcher. As I've said before, I think Trump is weary of this war and wants it over. The only "rational" concept I can figure is that trump believes Zalensky (Ukraine needs a new president) is the problem and is attempting to pressure him to make a deal....but, I have no more info than anybody else.
EDIT: Just read the WP this morning and there's another trump statement where he claims Ukraine is standing in the way of peace.... that Russia wants to make a deal to end the war......don't shoot the messenger...just regurgitating the WP story
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I mean, at no point has either side not wanted a deal. If Russia would agree to all of Ukraine’s demands, they would sign today. And vice versa. Of course Russia wants to end the war, in such a way that they get Ukrainian land etc. Obviously the victim in this situation is not willing to give in to the bully. But I don’t think anyone should be surprised that Trump would join the bully.
I prefer the US over both of them. Unfortunately we seem to be wasting money on both of them.
Russia at least has supplies we COULD use, what does Ukraine do for our country financially?
Russia at least has supplies we COULD use, what does Ukraine do for our country financially?
We’ve seen this story before… an authoritarian leader invades a sovereign nation, justifies territorial expansion through nationalism and historical grievances, and bets that the democratic world lacks the resolve to stop him. The lesson of the 1930s is that appeasing aggressive dictators rarely produces lasting peace. It often emboldens them, making the eventual cost of confrontation far greater.
Helping Ukraine defend itself weakens Russia’s military capabilities, deters future aggression, and reinforces the principle that powerful nations cannot simply conquer their neighbors. It also sends a message to China and other authoritarian governments that territorial expansion carries real consequences. Further, the R&D value is immense - we can now redirect funds from outdated tools of war (eg, tanks) to technology that we need to fight a modern war (eg, drones, EW, etc).
History has repeatedly demonstrated that failing to stand up to expansionist dictators can come at an extraordinary price.
This thread is gross. I am ashamed for all you people that think Ukraine should yield. I would never want to be in a fox hole with any of you. I hope Ukraine continues to inflict maximum damage on the Russian aggressor both in taking lives and in causing economic harm.
Agreed. Thank god people like trump, @baltimorened and @TigerGrowls were not in charge during WW2. “Just let Hitler have France!
SMH, we shouldn't want or take anything from Russia that helps them prop up their war machine and have you already forgotten that Zelensky imediately agreed to Trump's demand that they give us access to their rare earth minerals?
Ukraine, U.S. reach deal that covers rare minerals
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Wheat, Grain and fertilizer
With that said, I was a “fan” of us sending our expired ordinance to Ukraine. It was outdated weaponry, which we no longer use and sending it to Ukraine was cheaper than safely disposing of it. Buuuuuuuuut I was never and will never support sending Ukraine “funds” directly. I also think that “we” shouldn’t be funding a war of a non-ally …
with THAT said … Im almost 48 years old. When I was in elementary school, my Dad was in the air force/Specifically SAC and was stationed at Offut Airforce base in Nebraska. I vividly remember, special school drills where we would have to hide under our desks and/or in the hallway with books over our heads. This was in ADDITION to Tornado drills. Ya … they were nuclear attack drills. Sooooooooo F* Russia!!!!
Witkoff faces backlash for calling Putin a "humanitarian": "Embarrassing and outrageous" - CBS News https://share.google/qez3ChePmTEkvvlD6
Should we reward Russia for targeting civilians in the streets of Kyiv or should ALL the pressure be on the aggressor?
No, but not sure what that has to do with not wanting to be in one with complacent cowards.
I’ll stipulate that Trump is an agent of Putin.
Go down the checklist.
1. Destroyed the Western alliance? Putin wanted that.
2. Threatened a NATO ally over Greenland? Putin wanted that.
3. Pulled out of the intermediate nuclear pact? Putin wanted that.
4. Withdrawing 25-40,000 troops from Western Europe while Russian bellicosity is rising? Putin wanted that.
5. Russian satellites giving coordinates to Iranians killing our soldiers, and his response is “they kill us, we kill them”? What American president says that?
I think he’s been compromised.
The election of Donald Trump may be the greatest foreign policy success in post-Czarist Russian history.
Dude, this doesn't have ANYTHINE to do with Ukraine or Russia. It's all about what flavor of the week thing Trump is doing. If Trump's on board with Ukraine this week they are all about Ukraine. If ift'sRussia, all Trump Conrades are marching in rank. It's that simple. Whatever Trump is currently saying at the moment.
I've "evolved"...I see it your way...let them fight to the death...no giving up land, no ceasefire...
well, it just seems to me that people who have never been in a combat situation, and likely never will be, are somehow more inclined to have others engage in combat. It all looks so glamerous on TV and in the movies...it's not!
But as I posted I"ve evolved...I agree with you let the Ukranians and Russians fight until they're finished
Never said I wanted to go to war. Here, let me fix it for you: I would not want to be in any situation where my well being is or might be tangentially related to any of these clowns and their intestinal fortitude and moral compass. Or more accurately, lack of both.
There’s no way we could just like, keep our word and let them better defend themselves? You don’t like dpic and other libs and think they go overboard. We get it. But I don’t understand this clearly sarcastic response to all those civilian deaths that are a pretty linear line directly to us removing or throttling starlink. Which isn’t munitions. It’s just access. This flippancy is ridiculous.
never intimated that it was you...but you don't seem to have much of a problem with Ukranians - military or civilian - being killed in a war that is going nowhere....
but as I posted, I now have evolved in my thinking. Ukraine should give up nothing to the invading russians ...send in US ground forces as per @FLaw47..give the Ukranians the Patriots that they've paid for as per @dpic73, encourage the Europeans to continue providing zalensky all the equipment he needs....Let's encourage the Ukranians not to give up the fight....
I would have thought you would would be pleased that I've seen the light. I'm not being flippant about civilian deaths, those deaths are a result of a war you guys (collective) are encouraging to continue...the starlink thing is a red herring unless you want to take a position that there were no deaths of civilians before the one or two day cutoff of starlink...or no deaths after return of starlink.
I don't understand what you or any of the others would be upset with my now agreeing 100% with your previous positions...you (collective) have posted...no land give up to the Russians, send in US ground forces, give Ukranians Patriot interceptors at the expense of defense of US forces...
Do I have any of that wrong?? That's been the position of a lot of you...Of course, in following those positions, you have US forces killed, more expenditures of US munition inventory (another past complaint), oh and more civiilan deaths... and don't forget more military deaths as well...i don't think my projection of future outcomes based on what the folks on here are encouraging is too far out of reality.
Have I gotten anything that posters on here have called for wrong? Is it being sarcastic to point out the obvious?
Do you not see that Putin and Trump are the problem with Ukraine.
absolutely, trump should bow out and let Russia - ukranie figure it out themselves. They were doing a great job of negotiations before trump was elected.Do you not see that Putin and Trump are the problem with Ukraine.
I've come around to your way of thinking. trump should exit the negotiations..he's not getting a peace prize .zalensky should hold firm...give no ground, keep attacking the Russian infrastructure with whatever weapons the rest of the world will give them or finance for them.
Putin is the problem for sure - he's the one that ordered the invasion of the Ukraine, which the US said something to the effect that we might overlook if the incursion was small, and "don't". So I'm pretty sure if we get trump out of the picture zalensky and Putin will be able to work things out. But referencing my second paragraph, Ukraine should give up not one inch of ground...keep attacking Russia...
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It’s pretty clear you don’t agree and don’t think people who disagree with you are reasonable or something and so you’re just trying something new. You’re being disingenuous and you know you are. Have a good one Ned.
A lot of us very much want this war to end and think if the rest of the world rallied, led by the US, to fully stand up to the bully and said enough is enough, you’ve invaded another sovereign nation and are the aggressor, time to leave, it would end. And that giving the bully what he wants almost always stands to give the bully more power and confidence.
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