Texas loses to St. John’s
- Thread starter ThreeDogNight2
- Start date
A couple of teams that are highly ranked are fools gold, IMO. Illinois and Texas are the best examples. Underwood and Miller are criminally overrated as coaches.
Illini made the final 4 last year?
Underwood has a .637 winning percentage at Illinois. Frank Martin made a final four at South Carolina. That does not make him a good coach either.
Ya but also underwood changed his recruiting with international players the last couple years - he’s got a loaded roster last and this year along with a top 10 nba draft pick he just had with wagler.
he also brought in Antigua which has helped.
This board overreacting to exhibition game results never fails.
I think Underwood is a solid coach. He just went to a final 4. He has been building really good rosters and always finishes among the best in the BIG.
These games are exhibitions and they mean absolutely nothing. Most coaches use it for something other than practice against themselves and to work on a few things they want to while preparing the team for the real games about to start.
He also lost 39 games his first two years, I’d assume it was a rebuild. Since 2019-2020 including that Covid nonsense he is at almost 72%. He loses more regular season games than most would like at a place like Kentucky, but he’s really had them rolling the past 4-5 years. He has had success in the postseason as well. Since he started going the European route his teams have been really solid. He has a good thing going now, and a system that he is known for and works for him. Coming off a final 4 it’s totally fair where they are ranked this year.
Well, I think we can all agree that only beating Texas Tech by double digits without their star player (despite also dealing with two significant injuries ourselves) in an exhibition game is grounds to fire Pope and cancel the season, and if you disagree with me, you're a sunshine pumper and Pope lover and hate Kentucky and love losing and smell weird and probably kick small dogs and drink Listerine and wish for Kentucky Basketball's demise and actually want UK to win games this season and.......
(This is from the perspective of the most sane Pope hater in our fanbase, btw)
I think Texas is going to have a good team. Did well in the portal and have a good recruiting class. It might take awhile for most teams to play well given new rosters every year now for the majority of schools.
these exhibition games have totally lost the plot. pitino's plays 4 starters 32+ minutes each.
Exactly, teams at the beginning of the year won’t look the same in March. Some will be really hot, others may have injuries or have bad chemistry.
Just posted this in another thread. Worth a read
Exhibition madness
Preseason games get a bad name, but their results deserve attention
kenpom.substack.com
Actually think Miller is quite good. Underwood is a mid coach, but they'll be very good. Their best player is hurt right now.
St John's is a team of old men, Texas is pretty young in spots. They looked like they were sleepwalking. Last year St John's played Michigan into OT in exhibition to give you a sense of what the games mean.
Underwood has a F4 and an Elite 8 in last three years, sent 4 guys to the first round.
Miller been overrated his entire career, he would still be at Arizona had he done anything during his time there. They seem to get a lot of the west coast elite players but he didn’t do anything impressive there. Underwood has been pretty underwhelming for his career overall but he has kinda turned it around the last couple years. Neither should be mentioned as an elite coach imo.
I think you are mistaking reacting with overreacting, which are two different things. But, I’ll digress.
The results really mean diddly. To watch and ACTUALLY SEE what’s going on on the court is different. You can see a player like Diallo struggling. You can see a player like Wilkins making bad decisions but also completely going off for a short stretch. You can see McBride trying to keep up. But the results? Meh. I never understood the excitement over the Purdue win. And I never understood the meltdown over the Georgetown beatdown. I think in large part because I wasn’t convinced Purdue was easily the best team in the country and I wasn’t sure really what Georgetown was. The one thing that concerned me was how much more physical Georgetown was. I think that’s the type of thing you can take away from exhibitions.
That is exactly right. You cannot take exhibition results in any way as actual results. Coaches coach different in exhibition, players play different in exhibition, rotations are different in exhibition, key plays are not used in exhibition. Exhibition is more for coaches to see how players respond in certain situations, etc... We will all find our soon enough who is who when real games start. I enjoy these exhibition games because it gives me a chance to watch the Cats in action. I do not get much excitement watching other team's exhibition games right now. Things are much different when the games count.
Dude has either finished 1st or 2nd in his league in half of his 13 yrs. Also an EE and FF. He’s not elite, but he’s not mid either. Pretty solid.
We also lost to Georgetown. Did that mean nothing as well?
No it's not that it doesn't mean anything. It's ONE GAME tho.
I give him lot's of credit. He pioneered this who Euro thing and it's working well for him. He's used a heavy dose of analytics to put together a really efficient offense.
Latest
-
01
KSR Women's Basketball
KSR's top takeaways from the first Kenny Brooks radio show of 2026-27
-
02
KSR Preps
KSR's 2026 Kentucky High School Football Top 25 Rankings: Week 10
-
03
KSR
KSR Show, 10/27: Back in studio with special guest Josh Pate phoning in
-
04
KSR Football
KSR Today: Will Stein Sends a Message to Kentucky Fans
-
05
KSR Football
Kentucky is doing things that haven't been done since 1977