When K1 is in the NFL I want to hear him say ”Ms State” , not Oklahoma or Whatever!
Would you move on from Lebby if that means…
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It’s pretty simple. If Kamario plays and plays well in another uniform, we should burn the stadium to the ground and salt the earth. There’s no point. You don’t get handed a generational QB and then let him go if you are at all serious about athletics.
Yes, he's a generational talent. But the rest of the team is barely better the Itawamba Community College.
Except we have one jimmy and no Joe. That’s precisely the reason we want to move on from Lebby. We can’t recruit!
Name all the ones with Kamario Taylor. It's a no win situation if he walks, say what you want, we were great before KT got hurt. And I think Lebby "should" be fired but, if his life line is a generational QB, makes it tough. Year after KT, it all falls apart though, but give me a one year shot at the playoffs if I'm forced to choose. We're not getting a sitting P4 coach who is successful, almost no school does, so it's going to be a reach and a hope anyway
Nevermind. If it is the ONLY way to keep K1, I’d run it back. If he is injured on the 3rd game next year…. It’s not like we haven’t sucked before. Probably worthy the risk. But if it was announced that we were firing his *** immediately after a 10 win season in 2027 instead of suffering through another crapfest without K1 I would get it.
Yeah because we lost soooo many players when we fired Lemonis*****
Oak has proven that if you get the right guy, the right guys will play for you.
KT himself said is here because he loves State and wants to replicate what Dak did here. That doesn’t sound like a “I love playing football for this coach” answer. Lebby is the wrong guy. It’s as simple as that.
Oak has proven that if you get the right guy, the right guys will play for you.
KT himself said is here because he loves State and wants to replicate what Dak did here. That doesn’t sound like a “I love playing football for this coach” answer. Lebby is the wrong guy. It’s as simple as that.
What is this clown possibly going to accomplish even with a healthy Kamario? A trip to the Liberty Bowl? And then back to terrible after he leaves.
I voted run it back. Assuming KT at State is tied to Lebby at State. If KT splits, State needs to cut bait with Lebby. But assuming KT stays
we were good enough under Lebby to win with KT, Smith and others on defense healthy. I'd like to think our injury situation this year is an aberration.
If Lebby wins next year, great. If he doesn't, then you worry about 2028 then.
we were good enough under Lebby to win with KT, Smith and others on defense healthy. I'd like to think our injury situation this year is an aberration.
If Lebby wins next year, great. If he doesn't, then you worry about 2028 then.
You have a better chance of Taylor not playing a full season than us making the playoffs. Taylor has started 8 games and only finished 5… no way you run it back with an incredibly incompetent coach
The Rev losses alone are more than his buyout
This mentality shocks me. Listen to what you’re saying. One player holding 100MM company hostage.
No other SEC, BIG10,ACC, BiG 12 team would bring a coach back for year 4 with only 11 wins. Based on 1 player. Yall have lost your minds
This is tired question and very Miss State-ish. The correct answer is hire a coach that elevates everyone from the President to the cleaning crew and that includes every player we want to keep with K1 being the leader that holds everyone in place and accountable.
Will that happen? So here is the question you should be asking- Do we have top level leadership to do what must be done? Here’s a hint, it takes more than a Friday afternoon email to be a leader.
The Missouri game this year says otherwise. When there's hope, the fan base shows up and shows out.
I thought I remember seeing a tweet from KT’s dad after the Oklahoma game that made it sound like he was done with Lebby, but when I went back it was deleted.
They have to be 2 completely separate questions. There’s no guarantee we keep KT if we keep Lebby and no guarantee we lose him if we fire Lebby.
Well, this thread is ... IF THIS, THEN THAT.
However there is so much more to it than one player, that will go into Selmon's decisions. Just to name a few, who do you get to replace Lebby? I guess everyone wants Eck. Looks you could get him but so could many other schools. he has never coached or played in the south. Who will be the QB next year? State will have to be willing to spend $4-$7million for a good QB. Can State get a good replacement?
I'm all in on this.........You wanna talk about rejuvenating the fan base.........I'll up my contributions if this were to happen..........
Of course you want us too. KT scares the **** outta you doesn't he?
I can hear the pitch to keep KT from Lebby: You're a Bulldog who bleeds maroon and white. Come back and play behind another Lebby O-line. Who wouldn't want that?
If half of this conversation is talking about KT’s fragility, putting him in Mullen’s offense is not the answer.
I want to say run it back on paper. But then I concluded that whatever dollars we spend on supporting cast will be wasted on C tier talent or coaching in the trenches and he'll end up gimpy with a repeat of this year. So...I'd say can him and let the KT chips fall as they may.
Fortunately from what I've read, it sounds like if he stays it's because of the university and being close to home - he's not tied to Lebby by the hip. Is that true? Hell if I know. I'll roll with that now and let this poll just be a hypothetical and not based in reality.
Fortunately from what I've read, it sounds like if he stays it's because of the university and being close to home - he's not tied to Lebby by the hip. Is that true? Hell if I know. I'll roll with that now and let this poll just be a hypothetical and not based in reality.
This all day long.
I would vote but I don't understand the verbage of the 2nd question
KT will be a one-year success for MSU next season and them go pro but keeping Lebby for another season would just be to damaging to Miss State. I don't think it is worth it. One year of fun would not be worth 10 years of what we have just went through. We can't make too many more mistakes when it comes to football coaches.
Yep. It's real easy. You have to take that chance based on what we saw in September. If it doesn't work, oh well, move on.
We are probably going to watch Selmon fire Lebby, Taylor transfer to Miami, and Selmon hire another bum with no plan at all.
If we do this we damn well better have Taylor signed and Mullen lined up.
As much as I know and have always known Lebby is a joke, players like kamario are rare. He’s a legit heisman candidate.
Let me put it this way. I'm on board with whatever it takes to keep Kamario around. He's got the opportunity to bring us more notoriety than Dak. We HAVE to keep him here.
I 100% run it back unless we have a high end replacement coach lined up and possibly literally signed paperwork before Lebby goes. If not, no extension and mandate requirements for recruiting certain positions like tackles and backup QB.
I've never turned in my resignation without already having a signed offer. It makes no sense to me to just fire and hope.
I've never turned in my resignation without already having a signed offer. It makes no sense to me to just fire and hope.
Normally I fall into the you can't make a decision of your head coach based on a player or a recruiting class you are trying to hold on to.
However, we have the best player at the most important position in football on our team. We have seen just how good he is in the before and after injury scenario. In this case, I am 100% going to K1 and laying it out just as if he is part of the admin. Kamario we value you so much, we want your input. Lebby has not performed to the standard of MSU football, we are considering going a different route, but, we are not going to jeopardize losing you as our QB. Tell us your thoughts on playing at State next year with Lebby vs another coach.
Whatever that conversation leads to makes it a simple decision for next year. If he stays, it is no extension. If we have a banner year in 2027, you reevaluate after the 2028 season to see if that propels our program. If he doesn't care and is Bulldog all the way, it is time to start looking now.
However, we have the best player at the most important position in football on our team. We have seen just how good he is in the before and after injury scenario. In this case, I am 100% going to K1 and laying it out just as if he is part of the admin. Kamario we value you so much, we want your input. Lebby has not performed to the standard of MSU football, we are considering going a different route, but, we are not going to jeopardize losing you as our QB. Tell us your thoughts on playing at State next year with Lebby vs another coach.
Whatever that conversation leads to makes it a simple decision for next year. If he stays, it is no extension. If we have a banner year in 2027, you reevaluate after the 2028 season to see if that propels our program. If he doesn't care and is Bulldog all the way, it is time to start looking now.
Allowing Texas to score 24 points in the fourth quarter in 2025 completely undid my hope. Any clock-management adjustments or play-calling at all would have won that game for us at that point.
• Don't snap the ball with more than 3 seconds on the play clock.
• You don't want to hold linemen in a 3-point stance very long, especially that late in a game, so don't go to the line until the play clock is at 8. If you can't do it sharply, walk them to the line and have them wait to get into their stance until the play clock is at 6 or 5.
Those considerations alone would have kept Texas from scoring enough to tie. Just let the clock run = win the game. Junior high coaches do better than that. Park-and-rec flag football coaches do better than that.
That meltdown speaks to levels of wisdom and judgement. Just like you can't coach speed, you can't . . .
• Don't snap the ball with more than 3 seconds on the play clock.
• You don't want to hold linemen in a 3-point stance very long, especially that late in a game, so don't go to the line until the play clock is at 8. If you can't do it sharply, walk them to the line and have them wait to get into their stance until the play clock is at 6 or 5.
Those considerations alone would have kept Texas from scoring enough to tie. Just let the clock run = win the game. Junior high coaches do better than that. Park-and-rec flag football coaches do better than that.
That meltdown speaks to levels of wisdom and judgement. Just like you can't coach speed, you can't . . .
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