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baltimorened

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remember the thread we had about promises being made by democrats on this campaign...and you responded that they weren't promised but things they would try to do or were aspirational??

Well here'[s a quote from the prospective house speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, yesterday on one of the sub=nday talk shows..

"There’s a cost to corruption and throughout this campaign, we promised that we would focus certainly on affordability and driving down the high cost of living, and on accountability in the face of the unprecedented corruption that we’ve seen unleashed on the American people by the Trump cartel."

you can take this for we promised to try, but hold us to it.... -
 
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baltimorened said:
remember the thread we had about promises being made by democrats on this campaign...and you responded that they weren't promised but things they would try to do or were aspirational??

Well here'[s a quote from the prospective house speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, yesterday on one of the sub=nday talk shows..

"There’s a cost to corruption and throughout this campaign, we promised that we would focus certainly on affordability and driving down the high cost of living, and on accountability in the face of the unprecedented corruption that we’ve seen unleashed on the American people by the Trump cartel."

you can take this for we promised to try, but hold us to it.... -
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Did you miss the word "focus?"

"we promised that we would focus certainly on"
 
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baltimorened

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dpic73 said:
Did you miss the word "focus?"

"we promised that we would focus certainly on"
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ah, I knew that would be the response...so how do the proclamations about investigations fit into focusing on affordability....

so if they're going to focus on affordability and prices don't come back down to prepandemic levels does that mean they are ineffective...show about if the housing market doesn't regain steam...

I know, it will be trump's fault...(probably will be)

different topic,...did you notice your boy Ossoff came in a resounding first place in a poll of some democrats opinions for 2028 president?
 
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baltimorened said:
ah, I knew that would be the response...so how do the proclamations about investigations fit into focusing on affordability....

so if they're going to focus on affordability and prices don't come back down to prepandemic levels does that mean they are ineffective...show about if the housing market doesn't regain steam...

I know, it will be trump's fault...(probably will be)

different topic,...did you notice your boy Ossoff came in a resounding first place in a poll of some democrats opinions for 2028 president?
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"There’s a cost to corruption and throughout this campaign, we promised that we would focus certainly on affordability and driving down the high cost of living, and on accountability in the face of the unprecedented corruption that we’ve seen unleashed on the American people by the Trump cartel."

Jfc
 
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RollingballofButcherKnives said:
"There’s a cost to corruption and throughout this campaign, we promised that we would focus certainly on affordability and driving down the high cost of living, and on accountability in the face of the unprecedented corruption that we’ve seen unleashed on the American people by the Trump cartel."

Jfc
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well you folks leaning left seem to believe that the blue wave is going to solve the affordability, cost of living and bring accountability for the corruption...I hope you're right. But as I've posted, I have this feeling that all the anti corruption issues will have the same result as the Epstein files...lot's of bluster and accusations and nobody, or only a few actually charged..And, in order to get to the affordability both parties need to work together. And we have Trump doubling down on negative by appointing Miller (Dr doom) and Democrats declaring they won't work with miller.....not a great start
 
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dpic73

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baltimorened said:
ah, I knew that would be the response...so how do the proclamations about investigations fit into focusing on affordability....

so if they're going to focus on affordability and prices don't come back down to prepandemic levels does that mean they are ineffective...show about if the housing market doesn't regain steam...

I know, it will be trump's fault...(probably will be)

different topic,...did you notice your boy Ossoff came in a resounding first place in a poll of some democrats opinions for 2028 president?
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Sorry that your attempted gotcha didn't pack the punch you expected and I know your guilt about being silent while he raided America's coffers is what's driving your narrative about focusing on one thing only so that he doesn't face accountability but the voters are demanding that they do both. And you know for a fact that they can't promise to do what you're claiming when they don't have veto power and it's especially bizarre that you now expect them to bring prices down to pre-pandemic levels when no one would seriously make that promise. I think you need to sharpen your argument because this one isn't working.

Yes, I did see that Ossoff won the straw poll going away at the progressive convention over the weekend and even posted it in the Ossoff thread last night.

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Ossoff Wins Liberal 2028 Straw Poll; Harris Ties for 16th

Ossoff Wins Liberal 2028 Straw Poll; Harris Ties for 16th
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baltimorened said:
remember the thread we had about promises being made by democrats on this campaign...and you responded that they weren't promised but things they would try to do or were aspirational??

Well here'[s a quote from the prospective house speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, yesterday on one of the sub=nday talk shows..

"There’s a cost to corruption and throughout this campaign, we promised that we would focus certainly on affordability and driving down the high cost of living, and on accountability in the face of the unprecedented corruption that we’ve seen unleashed on the American people by the Trump cartel."

you can take this for we promised to try, but hold us to it.... -
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Is there a point in this ^^^^ other than the fact that Jeffries used the word "promise?" He used that word with respect to both affordability and accountability. It's not one or the other. I believe the Democrats can walk and chew gum simultaneously. If there are no subpoenas, no investigations, and no efforts at oversight (which is what we had for the last two years), Congress will be sending a message that wholesale, brazen graft is fine. Totally acceptable. As much as you like Donald Trump, I would hope you understand that they need to send a different message.
 
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baltimorened said:
ah, I knew that would be the response...so how do the proclamations about investigations fit into focusing on affordability....

so if they're going to focus on affordability and prices don't come back down to prepandemic levels does that mean they are ineffective...show about if the housing market doesn't regain steam...

I know, it will be trump's fault...(probably will be)

different topic,...did you notice your boy Ossoff came in a resounding first place in a poll of some democrats opinions for 2028 president?
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Glad you quickly saw the silliness of your initial attempted point, and then decided to change the subject ... but still wish you'd develop the ability to see the problems with your arguments BEFORE you present them, and then forego doing so (or, present rational ones, instead).
 
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LafayetteBear said:
Is there a point in this ^^^^ other than the fact that Jeffries used the word "promise?" He used that word with respect to both affordability and accountability. It's not one or the other. I believe the Democrats can walk and chew gum simultaneously. If there are no subpoenas, no investigations, and no efforts at oversight (which is what we had for the last two years), Congress will be sending a message that wholesale, brazen graft is fine. Totally acceptable. As much as you like Donald Trump, I would hope you understand that they need to send a different message.
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I don't "like" Donald Trump....as far as I'm concerned, impeach him.
 
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baltimorened said:
I don't "like" Donald Trump....as far as I'm concerned, impeach him.
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Even if the Dems get the seats in Mississippi and Alaska and have 56 seats in the next Senate, impeaching Trump will be largely ceremonial. Meaning that it will have no consequences other than the fact that his total number of impeachments will reach three (3), which has to be a record for any elected official in U.S. history. There's no way that Dems are gonna get the 67 votes needed to convict him in the Senate. (It's actually 2/3rds of the Senators present at the time of the vote on whether to convict, but I'm assuming everyone would be present, since Senator Turtlehead will be out of office by then.) The Dems would need at least 11 Republican votes, and I don't see that happening under any circumstance.
 
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LafayetteBear said:
Even if the Dems get the seats in Mississippi and Alaska and have 56 seats in the next Senate, impeaching Trump will be largely ceremonial. Meaning that it will have no consequences other than the fact that his total number of impeachments will reach three (3), which has to be a record for any elected official in U.S. history. There's no way that Dems are gonna get the 67 votes needed to convict him in the Senate. (It's actually 2/3rds of the Senators present at the time of the vote on whether to convict, but I'm assuming everyone would be present, since Senator Turtlehead will be out of office by then.) They Dems would need at least 11 Republican votes, and I don't see that happening under any circumstance.
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I have posted the same thing...but for some reason a group of democrats = not all - seem to want to head down that route.

The hatred for trump is so great that people will do things against their best interests just to vent that hatred.

The country will be so much better off when he's out of office. Of course, the hatred (likely not as severe ) will shift to whomever is elected as subsequent president....we need someone who is rational in 2028
 
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