................that makes Seton Hall special
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I really believe it is a differentiator in a positive way given the difficulties small liberal arts schools are having in the current environment
Duh.
Catholic grammar schools are booming in NJ, after COVID and given the social justice curricula that many of the public schools have adopted.
Not a bad thing at all. But in all honesty in my nine wonderful years on the South Orange campus (both Prep and U) Catholicism was only a minor part of my experience. By the time I left I'd become a classic lapsed Catholic. Later became Episcopalian and eventually lapsed there as well. A Deist now.
It was there if you wanted it, but they certainly didn't force it on you. Except for not serving meat on lenten Fridays haha
That says more about you than Seton Hall, no? There will always be devout students, middle of the road students, and students who want nothing to do with Catholicism. I've never understood the latter, it would be like me going to Yeshiva, but to each their own. There was a priest at SHU when I was there who was always friendly and smiling, and if I stopped to talk to him, he would always ask if I'd thought about being a priest (I hadn't). I didn't feel pressured, but that was as close to prosyletizing as I came -- unless I was at Mass, seeking it.
Private universities are under a lot of pressure right now with declining enrollments. You have to find your niche and market accordingly.
On the one hand, it makes sense for school to position itself this way. On the other hand, teenagers and young adults that identify with a religion have been in a steep decline over the past decade, so there’s that. Time will tell.
don't know if religion is a big draw in the northeast coastal states these days. but shu doesn't need a ton of students so might be a niche
Really? In the league my son's school played in grammar school, I think 6 or 7 of the 10 schools have closed.
My son is 37, they were all open when he graduated. Not sure when they closed. But most of his old league is kaput. Northern Monmouth County area.
People are not having children, across the board. Without emigration, I think our population replacement would be anywhere from 1.3 to 1.6 per family.
Long term trends are obviously negative and short term upticks will never fully offset what was lost. The economics simply don't work. Private schools need to charge tuition just to keep the lights on, and need to raise tuition to keep up with ever increasing costs. For most families, it just doesn't make sense to pay for private schools over going to the pubicly funded ones, especially in a state like NJ that generally has pretty good public schools.
This isn't particularly relevant to any decision Seton Hall may have made to focus marketing more on its Catholic identity though. Plenty of people go to public K-12 then a Catholic college and private colleges aren't at quite as much of a disadvantage as private grade and high schools (public colleges charge tuition too, even if they are able to make it quite a bit cheaper). Like some other people already said here, it's a differntiator for SHU. Of the 30something 4 year college in NJ, only 6 are catholic - of which SHU is easily the largest. It won't make a difference to people who don't care about religious affiliation, could help attract people who do, and those who are put off by it were never going to come here anyway so it doesn't make a difference for them either.
This isn't particularly relevant to any decision Seton Hall may have made to focus marketing more on its Catholic identity though. Plenty of people go to public K-12 then a Catholic college and private colleges aren't at quite as much of a disadvantage as private grade and high schools (public colleges charge tuition too, even if they are able to make it quite a bit cheaper). Like some other people already said here, it's a differntiator for SHU. Of the 30something 4 year college in NJ, only 6 are catholic - of which SHU is easily the largest. It won't make a difference to people who don't care about religious affiliation, could help attract people who do, and those who are put off by it were never going to come here anyway so it doesn't make a difference for them either.
But percentage of US population that identifies as faith based has also declined dramatically. I don’t think that’s a good thing but it’s indisputable.
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