⚽️⚽️⚽️…Delusional Youth Soccer Parent Thread

[Bringbackwoj]

Y'all should've gone to the NL club, in my opinion. I don't understand why everyone chose to stay there from the 13s and older. But I still want y'all to have success.




1. That's true. No debate there. I wish people were up to build something great instead of trying to always join something great.
2. Not really arguing there. My comment was specific to the team my daughter is on. They are, objectively, better so far.
3. Also true.
4. I'm not sure about all the coaches. My daughter likes hers and he seems to be pretty good so far.
5. Absolutely.
6. The 12s drew with Classic due to an own goal
7. I don't even know how to respond to this. SLSG is a great club, for sure. The travel is similar. 8+ hours to houston / san antonio / austin / denver, etc.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that WSA is this powerhouse club all of a sudden. I am going to say, unequivocally, that the bar by which they're being judged seems very high. They've been a club in Tulsa for a while, but this is their first year in ECNL. Give them some slack. I think talent will come out of and around to WSA, but it's gonna take time.

I am just curious why you give it over for worse. That seems odd.

Worse facilities. Worse record. How long do you get?

 

[ScheelSC]

Let's pray this is a better weekend then last time FCD and Sting Royal came to town (Month ago?). It was 6 goals for WSA and 60 against. Weather looks perfect. Hopefully everyone has fun and no one gets hurt.......

 

[Honkv]

I am just curious why you give it over for worse. That seems odd.

Worse facilities. Worse record. How long do you get?

I mean, at least a year? Maybe 2?

Some stuff we can't do a whole lot about right now. Like the facilities. Even if somehow there was a windfall of 1 million dollars, it would take time to build / buy the space, right?

As for getting better / more "good" players to play WSA: It takes time to build the program.

I know I'm the perpetual optimist. I always try to see the good in stuff. I'm trying to be objective as well. All I'm saying is: let's try to give it some time and see what happens.

 

[Bringbackwoj]

I mean, at least a year? Maybe 2?

Some stuff we can't do a whole lot about right now. Like the facilities. Even if somehow there was a windfall of 1 million dollars, it would take time to build / buy the space, right?

As for getting better / more "good" players to play WSA: It takes time to build the program.

I know I'm the perpetual optimist. I always try to see the good in stuff. I'm trying to be objective as well. All I'm saying is: let's try to give it some time and see what happens.

I want Tulsa to kick butt all around. But right now, it is worse by every objective measure except maybe one or two age groups. Overall, this is a friggin disaster.

Like you said, give it a year. It is still early. But good lord. Yeeshski.

I still want to hear what the Greenwood parents thought about whether they would get to play high school soccer. We mentioned that when that was announced, and even talked about that on this board maybe two years ago. Hilarious. They going to head back to Union?

 

[lawpoke87]

I want Tulsa to kick butt all around. But right now, it is worse by every objective measure except maybe one or two age groups. Overall, this is a friggin disaster.

Like you said, give it a year. It is still early. But good lord. Yeeshski.

I still want to hear what the Greenwood parents thought about whether they would get to play high school soccer. We mentioned that when that was announced, and even talked about that on this board maybe two years ago. Hilarious. They going to head back to Union?

You’re going to have to give it three years before any type of judgment can be placed imo. A single coach a TSC did a great deal of damage to the 10 and 11 age groups. It will be difficult to repair that damage. WSA 09s are competitive. The 12s have improved. The top 13s are playing GA so that age group is a dumpster fire. The 14s are competitive

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I mean, at least a year? Maybe 2?

Some stuff we can't do a whole lot about right now. Like the facilities. Even if somehow there was a windfall of 1 million dollars, it would take time to build / buy the space, right?

As for getting better / more "good" players to play WSA: It takes time to build the program.

I know I'm the perpetual optimist. I always try to see the good in stuff. I'm trying to be objective as well. All I'm saying is: let's try to give it some time and see what happens.

He has the patience of astonmartin. Today, everybody wants it yesterday. That doesn't happen. You don't judge it less than 6 mo down the line. And you don't reassess after one year with the idea of scrapping the whole thing if it doesn't meet up to overly expectant goals. The impatience of people out their is maddening. It takes more than a year to show signs of progress in just about anything like this. It took a while to destroy it, it will take time to build it

 

[Soccerguy7583]

What do you mean "pay to play" is GA free? Nathan is the best thing you have at TSC, not sure who Feener is and the rest are questionable.

 

[ScheelSC]

He has the patience of astonmartin. Today, everybody wants it yesterday. That doesn't happen. You don't judge it less than 6 mo down the line. And you don't reassess after one year with the idea of scrapping the whole thing if it doesn't meet up to overly expectant goals. The impatience of people out their is maddening. It takes more than a year to show signs of progress in just about anything like this. It took a while to destroy it, it will take time to build it

This will be an interesting year. Age group change will break apart some kids/teams that have played together most of their lives. Potential platform "adjustments" on the girls side. A lot of girls got scared that TSC wasn't getting GA so left. Do they go back? MLS Next now at Mohawk and no JM, No High School what happens here? ECNL boys? NEOFC RL Frontier girls?

I'm just going to sit back with popcorn and adult beverages and enjoy the show. Too bad at the end of the day it won't be the kids that are the priority.

 

[ScheelSC]

What do you mean "pay to play" is GA free? Nathan is the best thing you have at TSC, not sure who Feener is and the rest are questionable.

If you don't know I'm not going to explain it. But it doesn't mean dues.......

 

[Honkv]

This will be an interesting year. Age group change will break apart some kids/teams that have played together most of their lives. Potential platform "adjustments" on the girls side. A lot of girls got scared that TSC wasn't getting GA so left. Do they go back? MLS Next now at Mohawk and no JM, No High School what happens here? ECNL boys? NEOFC RL Frontier girls?

I'm just going to sit back with popcorn and adult beverages and enjoy the show. Too bad at the end of the day it won't be the kids that are the priority.

I've said it before: These girls were primed for ECNL. That was the goal. And then TSC lost it and nobody wanted to go for NL anymore?

 

[ScheelSC]

I've said it before: These girls were primed for ECNL. That was the goal. And then TSC lost it and nobody wanted to go for NL anymore?

Personally my daughter didn't leave WSA for TSC because of NL. We didn't leave this year for WSA because of NL. If we decide to go back to WSA it won't be because of NL. I don't need to chase the NL for my kid to go to college. My daughter wants to play on the best team. For the 2013's that resides at TSC and it's not close. It's not because I own the complex she practices at because I hate being there when my daughter is playing. (feel like I'm working)

We just had a girl leave are team because she lost her starting spot. She would be the best player on WSA 13's NL team. Did she go there? No, she went to Energy RL. Not all parents are chasing NL. Go to WSA because you believe in WSA. Go to Blitz because you believe it's best for your kid. If your kid develops the coaches will find them. If you think ECNL is the only way that's your right. Look Tulsa had back to back NFL first round draft choices a couple years ago. People will find you. Everyone needs to do what's best for them. I can promise every club will hire bad coaches or bad fits for its teams. For us Nathan Doll is the best fit. We will win a lot of games and lose a few. Hopefully we will make the playoffs and play the top teams in GA. Hopefully at Showcases we are playing top teams and not some 300+ ranked team on an "Outfield" where no one is watching.

Next year who knows.........

 

[lawpoke87]

Personally my daughter didn't leave WSA for TSC because of NL. We didn't leave this year for WSA because of NL. If we decide to go back to WSA it won't be because of NL. I don't need to chase the NL for my kid to go to college. My daughter wants to play on the best team. For the 2013's that resides at TSC and it's not close. It's not because I own the complex she practices at because I hate being there when my daughter is playing. (feel like I'm working)

We just had a girl leave are team because she lost her starting spot. She would be the best player on WSA 13's NL team. Did she go there? No, she went to Energy RL. Not all parents are chasing NL. Go to WSA because you believe in WSA. Go to Blitz because you believe it's best for your kid. If your kid develops the coaches will find them. If you think ECNL is the only way that's your right. Look Tulsa had back to back NFL first round draft choices a couple years ago. People will find you. Everyone needs to do what's best for them. I can promise every club will hire bad coaches or bad fits for its teams. For us Nathan Doll is the best fit. We will win a lot of games and lose a few. Hopefully we will make the playoffs and play the top teams in GA. Hopefully at Showcases we are playing top teams and not some 300+ ranked team on an "Outfield" where no one is watching.

Next year who knows.........

Playing on the best team in the area is seldom a bad decision. Whether that’s ECNL or GA. Generally, the better the team the more eyeballs watching them.

 

[Bringbackwoj]

This will be an interesting year. Age group change will break apart some kids/teams that have played together most of their lives. Potential platform "adjustments" on the girls side. A lot of girls got scared that TSC wasn't getting GA so left. Do they go back? MLS Next now at Mohawk and no JM, No High School what happens here? ECNL boys? NEOFC RL Frontier girls?

I'm just going to sit back with popcorn and adult beverages and enjoy the show. Too bad at the end of the day it won't be the kids that are the priority.

I was just talking about with people today and yesterday. I am glad my children are younger, and I get to sit back and watch this shakeout.

 

[lawpoke87]

This leaving Tulsa thing needs to stop. It disgusts me that this happens. It is friggin revolting.

It is pretty surprising given how high of programs TSC has been dropping girls into and that they have had YNT placements too. I just don't get it. But you do you.

What’s the old saying…don’t judge a man until you walk a day in his shoes. The fact that the top players in three age groups (09, 10, 11) all left TSC is not a coincidence. Hell…even the best 12 left. Might I suggest the problem lies with TSC and not with all those girls who decided to leave the club?

This is a trend which must be reversed if Tulsa girls are going to be competitive in the Texas league. You don’t see Energy girls leaving for Tulsa. Hopefully WSA can start making some inroads into keeping our top girls at home.

 

[Bringbackwoj]

This will be an interesting year. Age group change will break apart some kids/teams that have played together most of their lives. Potential platform "adjustments" on the girls side. A lot of girls got scared that TSC wasn't getting GA so left. Do they go back? MLS Next now at Mohawk and no JM, No High School what happens here? ECNL boys? NEOFC RL Frontier girls?

I'm just going to sit back with popcorn and adult beverages and enjoy the show. Too bad at the end of the day it won't be the kids that are the priority.

Like most sportspeople, they have egos and think they can do it better than the next guy. Some think they are doing it for the "kids" in that aspect, or they want money. Foolishly, some believe they can expand into specific markets, but in reality, they are merely diluting the competitiveness of the Tulsa market. There are now three clubs offering girls' RL vs one now?

It does suck if there is one butthead coach at the club or only club in a market. It makes things a lot different. I see both sides. Dallas vs Tulsa are in different places.

 

[Honkv]

What’s the old saying…don’t judge a man until you walk a day in his shoes. The fact that the top players in three age groups (09, 10, 11) all left TSC is not a coincidence. Hell…even the best 12 left. Might I suggest the problem lies with TSC and not with all those girls who decided to leave the club?

This is a trend which must be reversed if Tulsa girls are going to be competitive in the Texas league. You don’t see Energy girls leaving for Tulsa. Hopefully WSA can start making some inroads into keeping our top girls at home.

If the best 12 is RR, then I'd be curious to know what she / her family is going to do now that JM is gone from Greenwood.

 

[GWSCDad]

WSA girls NL coaches are not even close to what TSC had when producing talent, but even back in the day TSC would poach full squads from Blitz United after BUSC would develope them at the academy age. Most the top Girl developers are not coaching anymore, that is why you see a major drop off. Jesse moved to younger ages, Schubert isn't coaching anymore. Ragland is out of the game, Bradshaw is halfway in here and there. Troy is back but not with the same fire. JM doesnt truly develop he just hops on a talented player a takes credit for their hard work, Mike Wilson has moved to Colorado with Colorado State, Moritz is in Edmond.

 

[TU_BLA]

Personally my daughter didn't leave WSA for TSC because of NL. We didn't leave this year for WSA because of NL. If we decide to go back to WSA it won't be because of NL. I don't need to chase the NL for my kid to go to college. My daughter wants to play on the best team. For the 2013's that resides at TSC and it's not close. It's not because I own the complex she practices at because I hate being there when my daughter is playing. (feel like I'm working)

We just had a girl leave are team because she lost her starting spot. She would be the best player on WSA 13's NL team. Did she go there? No, she went to Energy RL. Not all parents are chasing NL. Go to WSA because you believe in WSA. Go to Blitz because you believe it's best for your kid. If your kid develops the coaches will find them. If you think ECNL is the only way that's your right. Look Tulsa had back to back NFL first round draft choices a couple years ago. People will find you. Everyone needs to do what's best for them. I can promise every club will hire bad coaches or bad fits for its teams. For us Nathan Doll is the best fit. We will win a lot of games and lose a few. Hopefully we will make the playoffs and play the top teams in GA. Hopefully at Showcases we are playing top teams and not some 300+ ranked team on an "Outfield" where no one is watching.

Next year who knows.........

If you're good enough, people will find you. And in soccer, make yourself known to the coaches/schools you want to go to. Unlike football or basketball, there are even fewer spots in pro soccer unless you are truly ELITE because you're not just competing with players in the US for those spots but with European, South American, African, and Asian players...so essentially about 6 billion other people worldwide.

My son found he got the best response when he contacted coaches, sent film, and then went to camps and ID events those coaches/schools were at. He was very focused on what he was looking for in a school and not just willing to go to whatever NAIA or D3 said wanted him. The reality was he knew playing pro soccer was never an aspiration (or likelihood).

And I disagree on your assessment of JM. I've seen him work with kids and bring things out of them other coaches could not. Even when brought in to work with an age group he normally didn't work with. He has a different pace and expectation of training and it challenges kids who are engaged.

 

[TU_BLA]

WSA girls NL coaches are not even close to what TSC had when producing talent, but even back in the day TSC would poach full squads from Blitz United after BUSC would develope them at the academy age. Most the top Girl developers are not coaching anymore, that is why you see a major drop off. Jesse moved to younger ages, Schubert isn't coaching anymore. Ragland is out of the game, Bradshaw is halfway in here and there. Troy is back but not with the same fire. JM doesnt truly develop he just hops on a talented player a takes credit for their hard work, Mike Wilson has moved to Colorado with Colorado State, Moritz is in Edmond.

I ran into Bradshaw a few weeks back during the first WSA ECNL weekend and he and I chatted a little before 1 of the games. I got the sense he is a little burned out from all of the politics of youth soccer and how it bleeds down into the coaches who really just want to teach the game and stick around the game because they love it. We talked a little about TU men's soccer...didn't realize he was part of Tom's 1st recruiting class there.

Wilson seems really happy that he's in the game again and Colorado St. is really having a fantastic year. Right now they're 6-1-1 and they were ranked. They're about to get into their MWC schedule.

 

[lawpoke87]

WSA girls NL coaches are not even close to what TSC had when producing talent, but even back in the day TSC would poach full squads from Blitz United after BUSC would develope them at the academy age. Most the top Girl developers are not coaching anymore, that is why you see a major drop off. Jesse moved to younger ages, Schubert isn't coaching anymore. Ragland is out of the game, Bradshaw is halfway in here and there. Troy is back but not with the same fire. JM doesnt truly develop he just hops on a talented player a takes credit for their hard work, Mike Wilson has moved to Colorado with Colorado State, Moritz is in Edmond.

Agree that the level of coaching talent currently in the Tulsa area is down. That needs to be changed from academy to competitive. We also need more girls with a desire to be elite and a work ethic to match. You’re not going to be elite by attending three team trainings a week. For all of TSC’s faults this was the most glaring imo and one of the reason they lost top girls.

Going to disagree with your assessment of JM. JM looks for hard working kids at any age who want to be elite. Regardless of the kid’s current skill level. I saw him take a bunch of rag tag 2009 boys when they were academy age and reach the ECNL finals with them. Many of those boys also signed MLS Next contracts with large MLS academies. My kid was a rec plus level player at Blitz when he started working with her. Now he does jump on elite players as well as far as training. I would argue those players seek him out as much as he seeks them. He trained a group of college and high level high school girls this past summer and I can say for a fact those girls largely sought him out. Why…bc the pace and intensity of his trainings aren’t matched in this area.

 

[Honkv]

Agree that the level of coaching talent currently in the Tulsa area is down. That needs to be changed from academy to competitive. We also need more girls with a desire to be elite and a work ethic to match. You’re not going to be elite by attending three team trainings a week. For all of TSC’s faults this was the most glaring imo and one of the reason they lost top girls.

Going to disagree with your assessment of JM. JM looks for hard working kids at any age who want to be elite. Regardless of the kid’s current skill level. I saw him take a bunch of rag tag 2009 boys when they were academy age and reach the ECNL finals with them. Many of those boys also signed MLS Next contracts with large MLS academies. My kid was a rec plus level player at Blitz when he started working with her. Now he does jump on elite players as well as far as training. I would argue those players seek him out as much as he seeks them. He trained a group of college and high level high school girls this past summer and I can say for a fact those girls largely sought him out. Why…bc the pace and intensity of his trainings aren’t matched in this area.

Not to mention the pro players that worked with JM over their off season. Parker Goins and her teammate, for example.

 

[GWSCDad]

Not to mention the pro players that worked with JM over their off season. Parker Goins and her teammate, for example.

Who spent majority of youth development at Blitz. Best farm club in Tulsa They are special players for sure.

 

[Bringbackwoj]

Who spent majority of youth development at Blitz. Best farm club in Tulsa They are special players for sure.

So based on your little zoom call, did parents and players actually believe you couldn't play high school?

 

[TU_BLA]

So an update on my son. They won at Harvard on Friday night 6-1. They lost to WPI on Sunday, 1-0. He texted afterward and said he played the “worst ******* game of my life”…which we responded his team didn’t score so it’s not like he had help in that area. We left it at that as I’ve never heard him react like that to a game. I’m sure he’ll be fine and they’ll get back on track this weekend.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

So an update on my son. They won at Harvard on Friday night 6-1. They lost to WPI on Sunday, 1-0. He texted afterward and said he played the “worst ******* game of my life”…which we responded his team didn’t score so it’s not like he had help in that area. We left it at that as I’ve never heard him react like that to a game. I’m sure he’ll be fine and they’ll get back on track this weekend.

Considering that was a school he was considering going to, I'll bet that didn't set well with him.

 

[Honkv]

We have at least 2 girls out for this weekend vs FCD and Sting.

They're both very strong players.

 

[lawpoke87]

We have at least 2 girls out for this weekend vs FCD and Sting.

They're both very strong players.

If you makes you feel any better many of the FVD teams are playing shorthanded. Some are significantly short handed. My daughter’s team is down 5 players. Remember…the game against WSA was not a scheduled game. Kids and parents made plans for on of our few free weekends…and they hate coming to Tulsa. We will be starting backups at 4 of the 5 midfield and forward positions. Could be an interesting game.

The girls beat Energy last weekend 2-0. Good win at their place and a solid 3 points to start league.

 

[TU_BLA]

Considering that was a school he was considering going to, I'll bet that didn't set well with him.

My guess is the goal was one he thought he should have saved or he did something that created the goal. Moreso, I don't think he and his teammates considered WPI a threat in their league although WPI tied the other Tufts team (the 2nd club team). My son's team either scores a crap ton of goals or they struggle scoring even 1. This is one they struggled. Next game is Holy Cross.

BTW, those that have followed former TSC players in college....Anthony Harper scored Boston U's lone goal against Boston College yesterday. At the time, BU took a 1-0 lead in the game. Harper has been getting a ton of minutes for BU and as they've gotten more games into the season I think he has even garnered a few starts. Carson Banham has been starting for Memphis as well. Good on them.

 

[lawpoke87]

My guess is the goal was one he thought he should have saved or he did something that created the goal. Moreso, I don't think he and his teammates considered WPI a threat in their league although WPI tied the other Tufts team (the 2nd club team). My son's team either scores a crap ton of goals or they struggle scoring even 1. This is one they struggled. Next game is Holy Cross.

BTW, those that have followed former TSC players in college....Anthony Harper scored Boston U's lone goal against Boston College yesterday. At the time, BU took a 1-0 lead in the game. Harper has been getting a ton of minutes for BU and as they've gotten more games into the season I think he has even garnered a few starts. Carson Banham has been starting for Memphis as well. Good on them.

…and the TU men have won 1 game this season. Disappointing for sure

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Especially the local club soccer on the same board as basketball and football. I was interested and liked seeing this become as I noted before, a Board within a Board, as a Posting Topic for local primary/under 18 league soccer followers. But it kind of gets in the way on the free board.

What I don't like is them posting soccer stuff in the middle of a TU football or basketball match on the same board that covers our Football & Basketball too. It is distracting when posted during one of our matches. When I go to Basketball/Football/Free Board during our matches I want it to be mostly about our matches during the game. That kind of takes away from the purpose of this board. I could just ignore Soccer and Crossfire during our matches, but don't necessarily want to ignore the Free Board that was our football/basketball/soccer boards during our games.

Delusional Schizophrenic Soccer Parents:

I saw a post on another topic on the TU Free Board and I mentioned above post in relation to how it works now that we have one & only one board for free on all sports. I know you guys aren't going to have your posting affected by little ol me. But I thought I would post this in this thread to let you know it was distracting at least to me, if not others when you posted during TU football and basketball games. I don't even know if you pay attention to TU ball enough to even know the hours we are having a game, though. You may not even realize when the basketball and football games are happening.

 

[lawpoke87]

Delusional Schizophrenic Soccer Parents:

I saw a post on another topic on the TU Free Board and I mentioned above post in relation to how it works now that we have one & only one board for free on all sports. I know you guys aren't going to have your posting affected by little ol me. But I thought I would post this in this thread to let you know it was distracting at least to me, if not others when you posted during TU football and basketball games. I don't even know if you pay attention to TU ball enough to even know the hours we are having a game, though. You may not even realize when the basketball and football games are happening.

I was just poking fun I don’t believe that’s too much to ask. Guess we should be thankful we’re not part of a large board where there are double digit active threads during a football game. Especially a football game where the home team is getting waxed

 

[Bringbackwoj]

…and the TU men have won 1 game this season. Disappointing for sure

I was at the USF game. TU should have won that. They had a ton of chances, including some 1 v 1s that I thought we would slot in, but we skied over. I just did not understand what we were doing on corner kicks.

Two bad corner kick defences let the goals in.

They are generating chances. More than other teams. They aren't putting them in.

Bonham has yet to find a goal or assist. Memphis boys no bueno. Girls good.

I am glad they are getting to play, though. That is great. Tulsa can produce talent. Ethan Gordon plays every minute at a Big East team, DePaul, and both his parents played Soccer at TU.

 

[TU_BLA]

I was at the USF game. TU should have won that. They had a ton of chances, including some 1 v 1s that I thought we would slot in, but we skied over. I just did not understand what we were doing on corner kicks.

Two bad corner kick defences let the goals in.

They are generating chances. More than other teams. They aren't putting them in.

Bonham has yet to find a goal or assist. Memphis boys no bueno. Girls good.

I am glad they are getting to play, though. That is great. Tulsa can produce talent. Ethan Gordon plays every minute at a Big East team, DePaul, and both his parents played Soccer at TU.

Anthony Harper is a great player and once he gets some college strength and conditioning in him he's going to be that much better. He's got excellent technical skill but what sets him above other players is he has exceptional field vision, and like a GK can see 3-4 plays ahead of everyone else, and he's an exceptionally smart player. Honestly, he could have been the next Henry Sach had he gone to TU, he's that good.

As for TU and their struggles...the 2nd goal was absolutely dreadful. The GK should have easily intervened on the 1st ball across there and then he "jack-rabbited" his response and the ball went right under him (my son uses jackrabbit, sometimes starfish, to describe a GK who is unnecessarily leaving their feet instead of seeing the ball and playing it.) The next bigger problem for TU this year is they're always playing from behind. They tend to give up early goals, fight to find an equalizer and then give up a bad goal late (like against USF).

 

[Jasg]

If you don't know I'm not going to explain it. But it doesn't mean dues.......

Shouldn’t we be educating instead of getting defensive?

 

[Jasg]

Instead of focusing only on what’s wrong with Tulsa soccer, what are some things that are actually going right?

I’ll start: Tulsa soccer does have a lot of opportunities. With all the RL teams, plus GA and NL added to the mix, it can feel watered down at times. But when you look at the results across several age groups, a lot of those games are close. Reading the tea leaves, that shows there’s real talent out there — maybe just not always being noticed.

 

[Bringbackwoj]

Instead of focusing only on what’s wrong with Tulsa soccer, what are some things that are actually going right?

I’ll start: Tulsa soccer does have a lot of opportunities. With all the RL teams, plus GA and NL added to the mix, it can feel watered down at times. But when you look at the results across several age groups, a lot of those games are close. Reading the tea leaves, that shows there’s real talent out there — maybe just not always being noticed.

Interesting take....

Why do you think it is being missed so bad?

 

[Honkv]

Ok, so JM isn't leaving the country after all?

Tecnico10 is back?

What in the world is happening lol

 

[lawpoke87]

Ok, so JM isn't leaving the country after all?

Tecnico10 is back?

What in the world is happening lol

Sounds like he’s coming back for Portugal.

Stefan is leaving Technico. If JM wants Technico to continue he really doesn’t have any other options. He needs to be a trainer. Train kids for the area clubs.

 

[ScheelSC]

Shouldn’t we be educating instead of getting defensive?

Instead of focusing only on what’s wrong with Tulsa soccer, what are some things that are actually going right?

I’ll start: Tulsa soccer does have a lot of opportunities. With all the RL teams, plus GA and NL added to the mix, it can feel watered down at times. But when you look at the results across several age groups, a lot of those games are close. Reading the tea leaves, that shows there’s real talent out there — maybe just not always being noticed.

Sounds like he’s coming back for Portugal.

Stefan is leaving Technico. If JM wants Technico to continue he really doesn’t have any other options. He needs to be a trainer. Train kids for the area clubs.

Like I said sit back with your popcorn..
It’s going to be an interesting 6 months!!!

 

[GWSCDad]

Ok, so JM isn't leaving the country after all?

Tecnico10 is back?

What in the world is happening lol

JM being JM, Ego issues. Being pushed out by GW and not wanting to go out that way