⚽️⚽️⚽️…Delusional Youth Soccer Parent Thread

[TU_BLA]

My son’s team drilled Harvard A 4-0 tonight at the Yahd. Son said the weather was brutal…rainy, 50 degrees and windy as a Nor’easter rolls into the east coast tonight/tomorrow.
They’re on to regionals at UMASS -Amherst in 2 weeks and then hopefully onto the national finals (which will be at Scheel’s in Overland Park).
College Club Soccer released their mid season rankings this past week and Tufts Blue is #2 behind Michigan State. By my count Tufts has only given up 3 goals in their games so far this season (it’s either 9 or 10 games).

 

[Honkv]

Awfully quiet around here these days

 

[lawpoke87]

Awfully quiet around here these days

Colorado went as expected. We lost to Real Colorado and beat The Rapids. It’s a tough task to beat the #2 team in the country at altitude with zero acclimation time. We get to face them again in two weeks in Austin in the Texas Cup finals. Hopefully we get a difference result. They are a high quality side though.

We face Sting Royal this Sunday in a huge game which will go a long way in deciding who makes Champions league at nationals. Should be fun.

 

[Honkv]

Colorado went as expected. We lost to Real Colorado and beat The Rapids. It’s a tough task to beat the #2 team in the country at altitude with zero acclimation time. We get to face them again in two weeks in Austin in the Texas Cup finals. Hopefully we get a difference result. They are a high quality side though.

We face Sting Royal this Sunday in a huge game which will go a long way in deciding who makes Champions league at nationals. Should be fun.

We have Challenge and Albion this weekend. We should handily beat Albion. We'll see about Challenge.

 

[lawpoke87]

We have Challenge and Albion this weekend. We should handily beat Albion. We'll see about Challenge.

I expect WSA 2010 NL to have another tough weekend. Both Albion and Challenge are very good in that age group.

 

[TU_BLA]

We have Challenge and Albion this weekend. We should handily beat Albion. We'll see about Challenge.

I might be centering that game vs Challenge. What day do you play them? I have a WSA U13 vs Challenge on Sunday at 11am. I also have 3 RL games at West Bank on Saturday. Should be loads of fun. I will be in both referee and dad mode for the games on Saturday. My daughter is an AR for those games...these are her first 11v11 games...the assignors at WSA are so desperate right now because of Fall break, a boat load of games for WSA and they also do the scheduling/assigning for Soktober Fest which is an adult league tournament run in conjunction with OctoberFest. Bunch of drunk guys trying to relive their former soccer glory. It's worse than beer league softball. They tried to get me to do it and I was like "HELL NO". You must be 18 to do adult games so they scramble and stick kids into their WSA games who may or may not be ready. My daughter is comfortable enough with the laws of the game and understands the black and white part but there's a lot of nuance in the laws regarding offside and whether or not a player is involved with or interfering with the active play. She does fine with U12 and below on the lines. At the same time, I am not going to let a coach or parents abuse her the way they like to over every little thing. I'll have my cards handy along with the ref abuse report if they go too far. I have a feeling a lot of games will be like this at WSA this weekend (most of the rec leagues don't have games scheduled because of Fall break).

 

[Soccerguy7583]

We have Challenge and Albion this weekend. We should handily beat Albion. We'll see about Challenge.

We have the same group this weekend, and we should handle both teams by several goals if we play up to our ability. But we are still dealing with 14 yr old girls who haven't played in 3 weeks so who knows.

 

[lawpoke87]

We have the same group this weekend, and we should handle both teams by several goals if we play up to our ability. But we are still dealing with 14 yr old girls who haven't played in 3 weeks so who knows.

Hoping your 2010s can right the ship this weekend. Won’t be easy though. Tough season for those girls thus far.

 

[Soccerguy7583]

Hoping your 2010s can right the ship this weekend. Won’t be easy though. Tough season for those girls thus far.

Yeah definitely not the season they hoped for.

 

[Honkv]

I might be centering that game vs Challenge. What day do you play them? I have a WSA U13 vs Challenge on Sunday at 11am. I also have 3 RL games at West Bank on Saturday. Should be loads of fun. I will be in both referee and dad mode for the games on Saturday. My daughter is an AR for those games...these are her first 11v11 games...the assignors at WSA are so desperate right now because of Fall break, a boat load of games for WSA and they also do the scheduling/assigning for Soktober Fest which is an adult league tournament run in conjunction with OctoberFest. Bunch of drunk guys trying to relive their former soccer glory. It's worse than beer league softball. They tried to get me to do it and I was like "HELL NO". You must be 18 to do adult games so they scramble and stick kids into their WSA games who may or may not be ready. My daughter is comfortable enough with the laws of the game and understands the black and white part but there's a lot of nuance in the laws regarding offside and whether or not a player is involved with or interfering with the active play. She does fine with U12 and below on the lines. At the same time, I am not going to let a coach or parents abuse her the way they like to over every little thing. I'll have my cards handy along with the ref abuse report if they go too far. I have a feeling a lot of games will be like this at WSA this weekend (most of the rec leagues don't have games scheduled because of Fall break).

we play Sunday at 11, so looks like we got you.

 

[Honkv]

Prepare to be heckled

 

[Soccerguy7583]

Hoping your 2010s can right the ship this weekend. Won’t be easy though. Tough season for those girls thus far.

We actually scrimmage this evening.

 

[Honkv]

I meant that as a joke @TU_BLA

 

[Li'l Eric Coley]

Prepare to be heckled

Ride his backside about being an anti-paragraphite. That'll show him!

 

[Bordare51]

we play Sunday at 11, so looks like we got you.

you're not u13 tho rt? Could be us -- we play as U13 in the RL league and have a game against Challenge on Sunday at 11am.

If you get heckled it was Honkv's team, if not then our team. My wife is Deaf so all of our heckling is in sign language and we keep the obvious universal heckler signs under control. bahaha

On Saturday we play against Albion RL at 11am.

 

[lawpoke87]

I meant that as a joke @TU_BLA

Don’t back down now. I’m coming in full referee heckle gear

 

[TU_BLA]

Funny thing is I tend to ignore parents for the most part, and most of the coaches comments as well. If I am AR I will engage with the coach if I'm on that side or maybe joke with a parent or two. I tend to use my voice even as an AR to help players or even explain something to coaches, even if it's BS. Last week had a U19 competitive match and the GK starts yelling at my center wanting a foul/PK in the opposite box and I turned and simply told him it was a clean tackle, ball first, on time and his teammate stumbled over the defender after the fact. Coach later asked about a PK given against his team and said from my perspective the tackle was really late and reckless. The confusion for everyone on that play was the attacker actually got a shot off that the keeper grabbed. As I said, the foul was really really late and it was a good catch by the center because he didn't immediately turn and follow the ball and stayed with that play for an extra 2-3 seconds because he could see what was coming (and the center was a 17 year old kid).

So things all parents need to know about the laws:
1. Not every time the ball touches a hand is it a handball offense (they'd be surprised at how little rises to a handball offense per the laws and the IFAB guidance and interpretations)
2. A player can be offside even though they received the ball in their own half of the field
3. Getting the ball during a tackle doesn't mean a foul can't occur

These are the 3 things that drive me crazy about parents who have watched a lot of soccer but have never gone through the referee course and certifications. There's so much subjectivity involved as well as nuance on things that seem black and white.

 

[Honkv]

you're not u13 tho rt? Could be us -- we play as U13 in the RL league and have a game against Challenge on Sunday at 11am.

If you get heckled it was Honkv's team, if not then our team. My wife is Deaf so all of our heckling is in sign language and we keep the obvious universal heckler signs under control. bahaha

On Saturday we play against Albion RL at 11am.

Once again, I am embarrassed by forgetting that my daughter is actually u14.



Still gonna find a reason to yell at @TU_BLA tho

 

[Bordare51]

Once again, I am embarrassed by forgetting that my daughter is actually u14.

Bro, I can't even remember my own age.

 

[Li'l Eric Coley]

Bro, I can't even remember my own age.

Yeah, I have to do the math based on 1971 most days.

 

[TU_BLA]

Yeah, I have to do the math based on 1971 most days.

Go donate blood with OBI. They'll give you a sheet that says both your DOB but also calculates your age and puts it right there on top. I am always amazed when I see the number and I'm like "When the hell did that happen" . It's good to know LEC is older than I am...by a year

BTW, I know this from donating blood yesterday at OBI, and PSA....if donating blood is part of your routine, now would be a good time to do so as they're experiencing a huge need for blood donors right now.

 

[ScheelSC]

Funny thing is I tend to ignore parents for the most part, and most of the coaches comments as well. If I am AR I will engage with the coach if I'm on that side or maybe joke with a parent or two. I tend to use my voice even as an AR to help players or even explain something to coaches, even if it's BS. Last week had a U19 competitive match and the GK starts yelling at my center wanting a foul/PK in the opposite box and I turned and simply told him it was a clean tackle, ball first, on time and his teammate stumbled over the defender after the fact. Coach later asked about a PK given against his team and said from my perspective the tackle was really late and reckless. The confusion for everyone on that play was the attacker actually got a shot off that the keeper grabbed. As I said, the foul was really really late and it was a good catch by the center because he didn't immediately turn and follow the ball and stayed with that play for an extra 2-3 seconds because he could see what was coming (and the center was a 17 year old kid).

So things all parents need to know about the laws:
1. Not every time the ball touches a hand is it a handball offense (they'd be surprised at how little rises to a handball offense per the laws and the IFAB guidance and interpretations)
2. A player can be offside even though they received the ball in their own half of the field
3. Getting the ball during a tackle doesn't mean a foul can't occur

These are the 3 things that drive me crazy about parents who have watched a lot of soccer but have never gone through the referee course and certifications. There's so much subjectivity involved as well as nuance on things that seem black and white.

So I'm not a soccer guy. A player can be offside on their own end but it's not a penalty correct? Play still continues and it is ok?

 

[Gmoney4WW]

So I'm not a soccer guy. A player can be offside on their own end but it's not a penalty correct? Play still continues and it is ok?

He/she can be in an offsides position, but is not considered offsides until he is passed to. The pass is the key.

 

[TU_BLA]

So I'm not a soccer guy. A player can be offside on their own end but it's not a penalty correct? Play still continues and it is ok?

No. If they get involved in the play, the flag goes up and offside is called. This happens when the player begins in an offside position on their attacking side of the field (at the time the ball is played to them), but they come back to receive the ball in their own half. It’s always their position at the time the ball is played. If they start on their own half of the field when the ball is played to them they are onside. It’s a very nuanced call that gets missed by new referees (young and old).