#1 in the state?
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Their one receiver? I won't be as rude to tell you to "Stop it" for saying that you're team would have trouble covering 2 Nationally ranked receivers that have been given 5 and 4 Star ratings respectively so we can just agree to disagree
I watched a decent amount of Geneva last year, and MC this year. MCs WR core is much better top to bottom, and they are going to get better. Sorry @ODERTY1
Idk if I would say they would have trouble. Raheem Floyd is the best cb in the state and Lofton is a borderline 4* db with atleast a half dozen p5 offers.
Burrell/Thornton v Floyd/Lofton
Gomiller/Baker v Harrington/??
It would def be an exciting matchup.
The entire MC secondary returns next year. Harrington, Saldana, Rogers and Winters
Hopefully this game happens.
Wasnt trying to insinuate MC didnt have anyone behind Harrington. Just not that familiar with their roster.
I know you well enough now to know when your rustling feathers, no pun intended!
Understood. Just filling you in.
MC freshman went 9-0. QB was Thomas Elliott, younger brother of Jack. Very similar style of play, Thomas was actually further along as a Freshman then Jack was but Thomas had really good receivers on the freshman team. He will be on Varsity next year but not sure he will be ready to man the ship at QB as a Sophomore
I tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
You don’t think you’re gonna get rid of your daddy that easily do you? JCA still could catch Naz in a crossover.
Very true. There are levels to the CCL. Naz is on a different level than JCA. They are the logical choice to compete with MC, Rice and LA.
I believe 2015 in the regular season, then beat the Hilltoppers in the playoffs.
It’s all in good fun, I respect JCA more than anyone. I needed to talk a little trash lol, ESL folk are having all the fun.
Naz is not on a level as those programs. Marist is the logical choice, I’m sorry they don’t like it.
I’d put Byron at 3, maybe 4.I tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
I must be missing something, isn't Naz ranked, depending on the publication, either no. 3, 4 or 5 in the State of Illinois. How are they not on the levels of the schools in the Blue?
Success wise they are close to those programs but geographically traditionally and enrollment wise Marist is closer, I agree.
Fake newsI tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
Naz has 375ish boys in their school. They’ve had success sure but the grinder of playing in the Blue is a little obscene for a program with a bunch of 3 way kids. Would Naz be up for it? Of course they would they’re not ducking anyone but that’s an unrealistic ask. Playing 1 game vs MtC, BR or Loyola is one thing, taking that beating week in and week out with kids play O, D and ST isn’t a recipe to sustained success or health. Just one persons opinion. There’s a reason though that a 4th team doesn’t stick around long in the Blue.
Marist, if they stayed they would end up successful. Lets not act like BR is MC or LA( wasn't saying you were BTW). Yes, BR is a great team this year but Marist can certainly be on their level in a season or 3.
SR and Marist are the only schools that have the football depth to handle that grind with LA, MC and BR currently. SI, NAZ, Fenwick, etc. can compete but not through a 7 week schedule and then trying to find 2 OOC games to soften the blow.
Go look at MC's schedule. If they win out there is no doubt it was a weekly grind but they have the talent and depth to handle it and over come obstacles. They are actually alone in that regard this year and looks like next.
BR's new coach seems to have the program in a very stable spot. They and LA have only played in the Blue. Lynch is looking like they will not be moving any time soon. The key to remaining in the Blue is not the blue games its the crossovers against teams that can jump up and get you like when St I and SF did it recently. A couple injuries and a tough OOC road and 5 wins becomes very difficult, see LA this year.
They were fine this year, I did not say otherwise. Over the time the Blue has existed I'd say they were the most consistent program.
I think it hits at a core question of how things should be organized (both on a conference level and I think you could extend it to things like IHSA class and success factor/waiver). Are you a "1st division / blue" based on leading metrics that are comparable or it is based on results? Equal opportunity or equal chances?
I tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
Fake News???? Why I outta....
Wilmington & Byron are undefeated all-time against MC, Brother Rice, Loyola, ESL and LWE. So there!!!!!
Very true. I’ve never been 100% clear on the criteria for division placement.
tuccs, you are tenacious. If I ever need a lawyer, I'm calling you, whether you went to law school or not.
Never attended law school but I’m half Irish Half Italian so there isn’t an argument I’m willing to lose and also I can quote My Cousin Vinny front to back fairly accurately.
You’re in good hands!
Not many swc matchups with those teams as they are 5a/6a schools and swc is all 7a/8a. But they have matched up against a few metro east teams in recent years. Jca lost to mascoutah when jca was a ccl champion. PC played a competitive game vs triad a few years ago. Mascoutah and triad in the s7 arent on the same level as good swc teams. A bad St. Marys team took IC to overtime last year. Fenwick and ESL had a common opponent in back to back weeks (Fenwick lost, ESL won by 2 scores). Sure the CCL/ESCC is good but I dont see those specific teams being anywhere near dominating the SWC like ESL has.
I refuse to believe Marist is in the 3rd tier. Why would they have dropped from the 1st to 3rd tier? Why would Ignatius move up from the 3rd tier to the Blue? I think they changed the name, Naz’s division became the green from the Orange but I don’t think it actually became the 2nd tier. I could be wrong but I can’t wrap my head around the Marist/Ignatius moves.