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Stlhuskers

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So we are currently at 116 with a 105 cap? How does that resolve by Fall since the portal is closed for entry? People leave the sport or move to another level of football?
 

RikeMiley

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So we are currently at 116 with a 105 cap? How does that resolve by Fall since the portal is closed for entry? People leave the sport or move to another level of football?
People are still grandfathered in after the house settlement, I don't know how many are left I assume those 11 but the judge wouldn't sign off on the settlement unless excess players were given a free roster spot.

"The schools are instructed to use “good-faith efforts” to identify athletes who “were removed or would have been removed from the roster for 2025-26 due to the implementation of the roster limits.” Those individuals will not count toward roster limits for the rest of their eligibility. This applies to current athletes and those who were recruited to be on a team for the 2025-2026 school year (e.g., incoming freshmen)."
 
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RikeMiley

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so. 43
jr. 31
sr. 19

why do we have so many so. compared to sr.?
Because when Rhule was hired Trev Alberts, Ted Carter and Rhule didn't understand the current college football landscape with the transfer portal and NIL. They wanted to be a developmental program and build up a team like he did at Temple and Baylor, him and Evan Cooper wanted to find diamonds in the rough and athletes to mold. Had it been 5 to 10 years earlier that strategy might have worked again but the game had passed him by. Now we have a roster full of young players who aren't developing mostly and not many players with proven production, I don't know if there's any way to remedy that in a timely fashion without telling a ton of players to move on next portal and try to get a team of older accomplished players mixed in.
 
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idiot lol GIF by Sethward

And I am here for it.
 

realHuskerDrew

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Rhule is clueless about building a BIG roster. Doesn’t have an eye for talent and is not a developer of talent. Going into year 4 and still doesn’t have an even mid level BIG roster. Gonna be a long 2 years
Rhule certainly has proven to be a fvcking moron for sure.
So anyone who was on the team won’t count to the 105 if we are over… AND there are no more signing limitations per class… so given this we could have and should have recruited an incoming class of 30-35 like USC did. If they didn’t pan out so what? You’re not obligated to keep them anymore
 
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K Rod

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For me it is just the utter lack of Ruhle and Stewart to assemble a balanced roster and address CURRENT team needs. Last off season it was not bringing in D line help knowing you were losing TY and Nash. And knowing all the remaining guys were young and under sized. So now fast forward to 2026 and we now have 15 D linemen on the roster. And just like last year, the need at a position ( RB ) is being ignored. It seems like this staff is always behind the 8 ball instead of being out front on a position of need.
 

jkeb

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For me it is just the utter lack of Ruhle and Stewart to assemble a balanced roster and address CURRENT team needs. Last off season it was not bringing in D line help knowing you were losing TY and Nash. And knowing all the remaining guys were young and under sized. So now fast forward to 2026 and we now have 15 D linemen on the roster. And just like last year, the need at a position ( RB ) is being ignored. It seems like this staff is always behind the 8 ball instead of being out front on a position of need.
Adding insult to injury, by not getting a RB, we were not able to capitalize on taking a 3 star whose home state didn't want him and making him a 1st team All American. We could have rebuilt the RB pipeline. On the other hand, maybe it really was coaching and not just EJ doing it mostly on his own and they will make Nelson a 1st team AA next. Maybe. I guess they didn't want the benefit of the doubt and wanted to prove it was them by starting again from scratch.
 
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inWV

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For me it is just the utter lack of Ruhle and Stewart to assemble a balanced roster and address CURRENT team needs. Last off season it was not bringing in D line help knowing you were losing TY and Nash. And knowing all the remaining guys were young and under sized. So now fast forward to 2026 and we now have 15 D linemen on the roster. And just like last year, the need at a position ( RB ) is being ignored. It seems like this staff is always behind the 8 ball instead of being out front on a position of need.
In the case of the DL, your beef is not that they didn't add players, but that they added the wrong ones, or that they were underpowered. Nwaneri, Moore and George were added to the portal. George didn't work out, Moore will probably round into a reliable player, and Nwaneri has a chance to be a pro. As for the RB room, the coaching staff has a different opinion of the players on the roster than you do.
 
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inWV

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Adding insult to injury, by not getting a RB, we were not able to capitalize on taking a 3 star whose home state didn't want him and making him a 1st team All American. We could have rebuilt the RB pipeline. On the other hand, maybe it really was coaching and not just EJ doing it mostly on his own and they will make Nelson a 1st team AA next. Maybe. I guess they didn't want the benefit of the doubt and wanted to prove it was them by starting again from scratch.
We didn't get a running back from the portal, but we did get a very well regarded RB out of HS. As for EJ, we didn't do anything wrt his development into an all American. Nelson average 7.3 ypc against a legit P4 team in the bowl game. He average 5.4 ypc on the year. For a comparison, Abdullah had 150 yards and 3.6 ypc his freshman year. Nelson is going to be just fine next year.
 
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K Rod

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In the case of the DL, your beef is not that they didn't add players, but that they added the wrong ones, or that they were underpowered. Nwaneri, Moore and George were added to the portal. George didn't work out, Moore will probably round into a reliable player, and Nwaneri has a chance to be a pro. As for the RB room, the coaching staff has a different opinion of the players on the roster than you do.
Just like their opinion of EJ was that he was a third string RB until Dana got here last year? Yes your no doubt correct that their opinion is different than mine. One bowl game of production is hardly a good sample size. And if any of those RBs were really that good, they would have had more carries to take some of the load off EJ this year. Nelson appears to have some real promise, but the way he is built makes me wonder if he can carry the ball 15+ times a game. My real concern is depth at the position. Any injuries and this group is in trouble.
 
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inWV

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Just like their opinion of EJ was that he was a third string RB until Dana got here last year? Yes your no doubt correct that their opinion is different than mine. One bowl game of production is hardly a good sample size. And if any of those RBs were really that good, they would have had more carries to take some of the load off EJ this year. Nelson appears to have some real promise, but the way he is built makes me wonder if he can carry the ball 15+ times a game. My real concern is depth at the position. Any injuries and this group is in trouble.
The room is Nelson, Mozee, Ives and Rule. None of the first three are top end type guys, but all have produced when actually in games. Rule had very good production in HS and has a good offer list. For all we know, that kid could be getting a lot of carries this fall. I would say the room has enough depth. It's more than some fans don't think the players in the room are any good. And a lot of that springs from the fact that they don't think Barthel is a good position coach. If they did, they'd probably think better of the RB room.
If Holgerson was concerned about the talent and depth in the RB room, NU would have taken an RB from the portal. But the fact is, Dana said nothing. He's worked with these kids and knows what they can do, and probably what they are capable of doing. If he's fine with it, is there a reason why I should be in opposition to that, especially when I know far less about those players than he does.
 
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Walleye 1

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The room is Nelson, Mozee, Ives and Rule. None of the first three are top end type guys, but all have produced when actually in games. Rule had very good production in HS and has a good offer list. For all we know, that kid could be getting a lot of carries this fall. I would say the room has enough depth. It's more than some fans don't think the players in the room are any good. And a lot of that springs from the fact that they don't think Barthel is a good position coach. If they did, they'd probably think better of the RB room.
If Holgerson was concerned about the talent and depth in the RB room, NU would have taken an RB from the portal. But the fact is, Dana said nothing. He's worked with these kids and knows what they can do, and probably what they are capable of doing. If he's fine with it, is there a reason why I should be in opposition to that, especially when I know far less about those players than he does.
I just have no faith that coaches really understand or know what the team needs are. Which is sad. My opinion is based on how they addressed year 2 to year 3. Defensive line for example. Lose 2 key starters and do nothing to fill in the gap in production. If they actually felt good about the dline that is a major cause for concern. Fans saw it but coaches did nothing to fill that void.
 
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inWV

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I just have no faith that coaches really understand or know what the team needs are. Which is sad. My opinion is based on how they addressed year 2 to year 3. Defensive line for example. Lose 2 key starters and do nothing to fill in the gap in production. If they actually felt good about the dline that is a major cause for concern. Fans saw it but coaches did nothing to fill that void.
They did nothing on the DL? They brough George (didn't work out), Moore (will be a rotational piece next year) and Nwaneri (certainly NFL potential). Teams that graduate key players in terms of production often have problems filling the gap. I think the staff thought they would get more out of Jeudy and RVP. And there is the issue of how the DL was being used by Butler in the overall scheme.
I work from the assumption that coaches want to win games, some very much so. So they try to get the best players they can.
 

oldjar07

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In the case of the DL, your beef is not that they didn't add players, but that they added the wrong ones, or that they were underpowered. Nwaneri, Moore and George were added to the portal. George didn't work out, Moore will probably round into a reliable player, and Nwaneri has a chance to be a pro. As for the RB room, the coaching staff has a different opinion of the players on the roster than you do.
Given that we were running a 3-4 defense, we desperately needed to get a NT and didn't get one. That's a major failure and the #1 reason for our ****** run defense all year. I actually liked our other Dline pickups, but not landing a true NT takes what could have been an A- group into a D-.
 

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They did nothing on the DL? They brough George (didn't work out), Moore (will be a rotational piece next year) and Nwaneri (certainly NFL potential). Teams that graduate key players in terms of production often have problems filling the gap. I think the staff thought they would get more out of Jeudy and RVP. And there is the issue of how the DL was being used by Butler in the overall scheme.
I work from the assumption that coaches want to win games, some very much so. So they try to get the best players they can.
Butler and Braden were bad hires, I’m curious if it was the scheme or that Judy and vanpoppel didn’t live up to expectation?
 

oldjar07

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They did nothing on the DL? They brough George (didn't work out), Moore (will be a rotational piece next year) and Nwaneri (certainly NFL potential). Teams that graduate key players in terms of production often have problems filling the gap. I think the staff thought they would get more out of Jeudy and RVP. And there is the issue of how the DL was being used by Butler in the overall scheme.
I work from the assumption that coaches want to win games, some very much so. So they try to get the best players they can.
Just admitting here that some fans saw the needs of our roster better than a coaching staff making a combined salary of $20 million. That's sad and pathetic.
 
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inWV

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Butler and Braden were bad hires, I’m curious if it was the scheme or that Judy and vanpoppel didn’t live up to expectation?
My football knowledge taps out at that question in terms of how the players were used. Jeudy was a decent rotational piece, but not a lead guy. RVP got some rotational work in 2023, but was a RS in 2024. Something that doesn't get mentioned is how important Bullock was. He knew where to be after the ball was snapped. Hutmacher, Ty and Bullock all made pro rosters.
The probability of matching the contributions of Nash and Ty to the run defense this year was low. They obviously hoped to come closer than they did. I guess the lesson is not to run a defensive alignment that an old coach leaves behind if that coach doesn't really have a feel for it. White's D was a success because he came up in that D and did have a feel for it. But it for sure didn't hurt to have Ty and Nash. I look forward to seeing what the next group of coaches and players can do.
 
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RikeMiley

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The room is Nelson, Mozee, Ives and Rule. None of the first three are top end type guys, but all have produced when actually in games. Rule had very good production in HS and has a good offer list. For all we know, that kid could be getting a lot of carries this fall. I would say the room has enough depth. It's more than some fans don't think the players in the room are any good. And a lot of that springs from the fact that they don't think Barthel is a good position coach. If they did, they'd probably think better of the RB room.
If Holgerson was concerned about the talent and depth in the RB room, NU would have taken an RB from the portal. But the fact is, Dana said nothing. He's worked with these kids and knows what they can do, and probably what they are capable of doing. If he's fine with it, is there a reason why I should be in opposition to that, especially when I know far less about those players than he does.
Maybe I'm reading into it but Dana made it sound like he doesn't have much say in personnel decisions.



"I'm a coach, so I'm trying to organize this offense and get us ready to play Utah," he said. "This the world that we live in now, you better have a personnel department that's doing all the work so you have to ask them."
"When people announce that they're going to enter the portal, you take notice. I've got social media just like everybody else has social media and when people announce they're going in, then I'm sure we're going to do our due diligence," he said.
For Holgorsen though, "My full-time job is calling plays and organizing my call sheet and getting our guys ready at practice and getting them ready to play this game."
 
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Butler and Braden were bad hires, I’m curious if it was the scheme or that Judy and vanpoppel didn’t live up to expectation?
I wrote this before. But Butler's biggest downfall as a coach, and Bradden by association was that they tried to run the defense like a pro team. They set out with a scheme and didn't really care if the player had the skillset to run it. Having Jeudy stunt and twist when he didn't have the speed to get around the DE or having Nwaneri stunt around Jeudy or RVP and the NT didn't make it far enough and clogged the gap. There were times when there were 3 guys, DT/DE, NT and LB all in the same gap.
 

inWV

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Maybe I'm reading into it but Dana made it sound like he doesn't have much say in personnel decisions.



"I'm a coach, so I'm trying to organize this offense and get us ready to play Utah," he said. "This the world that we live in now, you better have a personnel department that's doing all the work so you have to ask them."
"When people announce that they're going to enter the portal, you take notice. I've got social media just like everybody else has social media and when people announce they're going in, then I'm sure we're going to do our due diligence," he said.
For Holgorsen though, "My full-time job is calling plays and organizing my call sheet and getting our guys ready at practice and getting them ready to play this game."
If Holgerson thought the room needed an RB, the portal staff would be looking for one.
 

inWV

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I wrote this before. But Butler's biggest downfall as a coach, and Bradden by association was that they tried to run the defense like a pro team. They set out with a scheme and didn't really care if the player had the skillset to run it. Having Jeudy stunt and twist when he didn't have the speed to get around the DE or having Nwaneri stunt around Jeudy or RVP and the NT didn't make it far enough and clogged the gap. There were times when there were 3 guys, DT/DE, NT and LB all in the same gap.
This is the type of info that is helpful to the conversation.
 
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The days of development are over. Let the small g5 and other p4 schools schools develop and get the best you can afford in the portal.
The problem is everyone already knows that. And the best veteran transfers are looking at tangible things like the money, going somewhere they can win, the system you run and how many you are getting drafted.
 

redwine65

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right then:

105 divided by 4 = 26.25

freshmen = 26.25
sophomore = 26.25
junior = 26.25
senior = 26.25

thats a full team each year...with 3 possible back ups at each position
this is the best way to develop and reload...with the nil/portal the ultimate fix for problem areas.
(unless you are a cignetti who can take alot of transfer portal seniors and make it all make sense in 1 year)

this
so. 43
jr. 31
sr. 19
is not balanced
 

dinglefritz

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Rhule certainly has proven to be a fvcking moron for sure.
So anyone who was on the team won’t count to the 105 if we are over… AND there are no more signing limitations per class… so given this we could have and should have recruited an incoming class of 30-35 like USC did. If they didn’t pan out so what? You’re not obligated to keep them anymore
So when you’re already one of the youngest teams in CFB you want to get younger?
 

dinglefritz

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Adding insult to injury, by not getting a RB, we were not able to capitalize on taking a 3 star whose home state didn't want him and making him a 1st team All American. We could have rebuilt the RB pipeline. On the other hand, maybe it really was coaching and not just EJ doing it mostly on his own and they will make Nelson a 1st team AA next. Maybe. I guess they didn't want the benefit of the doubt and wanted to prove it was them by starting again from scratch.
We did take a high school RB who had multiple P4 and ACC offers. I’m guessing they like him better than the portal options they drew interest from.
 
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