12 wins, 31 losses. That would be Cohen's SEC series record.
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I don't know why I need to say this but:
2009- 9-20
2010- 6-24
2011- 14-16
2012- 16-14
It is obvious that Cohen is lost I mean just look at those results. No tangible improvement at all. *******************
Cohen isn't walking people. Until our pitchers throw strikes we're going to struggle.
Against quality opponents it has always been get one on the road and take two at home. You may get a sweep one way or the other here and there but for the most part we are one game off track- losing two to lsu.
Maybe you guys need to take up horse racing if you want instant gratification but a baseball season is way to long to jump off the cliff after every lose.
2009- 9-20
2010- 6-24
2011- 14-16
2012- 16-14
It is obvious that Cohen is lost I mean just look at those results. No tangible improvement at all. *******************
Cohen isn't walking people. Until our pitchers throw strikes we're going to struggle.
Against quality opponents it has always been get one on the road and take two at home. You may get a sweep one way or the other here and there but for the most part we are one game off track- losing two to lsu.
Maybe you guys need to take up horse racing if you want instant gratification but a baseball season is way to long to jump off the cliff after every lose.
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Oh, so you want to play, huh? Sure. Throw out 2009 and that record is 10-23. Throw out 2010 and it is 8-15. Consider that we'll probably win 5 of the next 7 this year and it's 13-17. See, anyone can **** with numbers.
Now, consider that Cohen's SEC overall record is 48-79 (38% vs the 28% of your ******** stat). You know, the record that actually counts? Throw out 2009 and 2010 and you're looking at 33-35, damn near a .500 record.
Finally, consider that the SEC is easily the best conference in the land, responsible for 3 of the 4 national championships in Cohen's first four years (and had another team playing in the championship the other year, and ANOTHER team playing in it the year before). Countless others in Omaha (not Ole Miss, rimshot).
You can shut the **** up right about now.
Oh, right about now you're thinking that you can't really throw out 2009 and 2010. Well, yes you can. I sat through those seasons and Polk should have his neck rung for the way he left that program. If you don't already know this and were thinking of responding to my post with a 'you can't throw out 2009 and 2010' remark, blow your brains completely out. Don't leave anything to chance.
Now, consider that Cohen's SEC overall record is 48-79 (38% vs the 28% of your ******** stat). You know, the record that actually counts? Throw out 2009 and 2010 and you're looking at 33-35, damn near a .500 record.
Finally, consider that the SEC is easily the best conference in the land, responsible for 3 of the 4 national championships in Cohen's first four years (and had another team playing in the championship the other year, and ANOTHER team playing in it the year before). Countless others in Omaha (not Ole Miss, rimshot).
You can shut the **** up right about now.
Oh, right about now you're thinking that you can't really throw out 2009 and 2010. Well, yes you can. I sat through those seasons and Polk should have his neck rung for the way he left that program. If you don't already know this and were thinking of responding to my post with a 'you can't throw out 2009 and 2010' remark, blow your brains completely out. Don't leave anything to chance.
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No you're not. Judging by your posts this year and last baseball season (gauranteeing we would finish last in the SEC time for the 3rd time in Cohen's tenure, even though 2009 was the only time that happened), you probably thought it was worse.
When half your SEC coaching career has been a last place or next to last place finish in your division, you really can't defend the record. He's won his division once. When you have to exclude years of coaching to make him look better, you're reaching.
Same at Kentucky...
Nothing to do with him (re)building 2 dumpster fires from the ground up**
My thing is this
We have still yet to see what Cohen can do with a full deck of players.
In year one, he had Polk's players. In year two, it was mainly Polk's players, and some JUCO's. The players on those two teams for the most part didn't buy into what Cohen wanted to do, we had no pitching, no team speed, were a poor defensive team and our hitting was average and it was a fractured clubhouse. Blame that on Polk, Cohen, whoever- but Cohen had to get a team full of players that had the mentality that he wanted. By year three he had that.
In year three we mainly had JUCO's, some of Polk's players, and a few freshmen and scrapped our way to a SR. In year four, Cohen had a team of pretty much all of his players except for maybe a couple and we had the top pitching staff in the SEC, but our position players were racked with an abnormal amount of injuries and it greatly affected our offense and pretty much shut down our running game completely. This year has been the reverse of last year up to this point. Our offense is productive in general, but we've now lost our top two starting pitchers at least for the moment and as a result we are starting off with a deficit to start the game most of the time.
I'm sure someone will probably say I'm making excuses or whatever- but the bottom line is, and this applies for anyone in the SEC not just us and if you don't believe me, ask Florida this weekend because they have had some of the same issues we are having (13-16 and 4-5 in the SEC)- you can not lose your top two starting pitchers and be an "elite" SEC team. Elite being defined as SEC championship caliber. That's not to say that we can't be successful or at least competitive- in fact I think our performance this year and the past two we have at least been that in light of our issues.
At this point, it's more a matter of figuring out who can be our starting pitcher at least until Lindgren and Woodruff hopefully come back. I think we did at least do that this weekend- Pollorena, Graveman, and probably Ross Mitchell are going to have to get us by at least for the moment and maybe for the rest of the year.
IF healthy, we do have the talent to be an elite SEC team right now- there's no question about that- it's just a question of getting everyone healthy. But with this group of players, that really hasn't happened the last two years, and that's unfortunate for all of us including the team.
We have still yet to see what Cohen can do with a full deck of players.
In year one, he had Polk's players. In year two, it was mainly Polk's players, and some JUCO's. The players on those two teams for the most part didn't buy into what Cohen wanted to do, we had no pitching, no team speed, were a poor defensive team and our hitting was average and it was a fractured clubhouse. Blame that on Polk, Cohen, whoever- but Cohen had to get a team full of players that had the mentality that he wanted. By year three he had that.
In year three we mainly had JUCO's, some of Polk's players, and a few freshmen and scrapped our way to a SR. In year four, Cohen had a team of pretty much all of his players except for maybe a couple and we had the top pitching staff in the SEC, but our position players were racked with an abnormal amount of injuries and it greatly affected our offense and pretty much shut down our running game completely. This year has been the reverse of last year up to this point. Our offense is productive in general, but we've now lost our top two starting pitchers at least for the moment and as a result we are starting off with a deficit to start the game most of the time.
I'm sure someone will probably say I'm making excuses or whatever- but the bottom line is, and this applies for anyone in the SEC not just us and if you don't believe me, ask Florida this weekend because they have had some of the same issues we are having (13-16 and 4-5 in the SEC)- you can not lose your top two starting pitchers and be an "elite" SEC team. Elite being defined as SEC championship caliber. That's not to say that we can't be successful or at least competitive- in fact I think our performance this year and the past two we have at least been that in light of our issues.
At this point, it's more a matter of figuring out who can be our starting pitcher at least until Lindgren and Woodruff hopefully come back. I think we did at least do that this weekend- Pollorena, Graveman, and probably Ross Mitchell are going to have to get us by at least for the moment and maybe for the rest of the year.
IF healthy, we do have the talent to be an elite SEC team right now- there's no question about that- it's just a question of getting everyone healthy. But with this group of players, that really hasn't happened the last two years, and that's unfortunate for all of us including the team.