13-3 Michigan dead in the water. Stevie Subs strikes again !!!
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To be fair, you can’t play the starters 40 minutes. They have to come out eventually
Why does Everyone make the same stupid response.
One at a time not 3 starters at a time
One at a time not 3 starters at a time
It would have been an issue with Cliff coming out even on his own.
There’s no one on the team that can defend HD behind him.
Literally all those scoring possessions ran Michigan ran through HD.
There’s no one on the team that can defend HD behind him.
Literally all those scoring possessions ran Michigan ran through HD.
To this point, it has to be Wolf. I have more of an issue with him not getting PT than anything else.
Unless he’s really really screwed up from his grandma. That would be another story.
I have to admit I cringed when the mass subbing happened. I think it was an immediate 7-0 run.
I hate arguing with fellow Rutgers men and women on here , I just don’t understand why he keeps doing this and even more so when we R kicking someone’s a$$ early in the game
He actually left Cliff in longer than he has been doing recently but sitting Cliff and Paul at the same time when Hyatt and Dean are playing awful isn't going to work
More Oskar I guess and try Wolf. Poor Pike doesn't have many options. Chol not being ready is killing bench depth too with Terry eating up a scholarship
More Oskar I guess and try Wolf. Poor Pike doesn't have many options. Chol not being ready is killing bench depth too with Terry eating up a scholarship
Pike lost all the momentum with the terrible sub package. Never recovered. Really really bad coaching.
At some point, somebody has to shoot and make shots. 42 points is not going to win you any games
We have the worst bench in B1G. Or at least as bad as Nebraska. Maybe Minnesota worse. Hasn’t gotten better—had hope frosh would improve to be meaningful contributors as on other teams.
Years of recruiting misses has caught up.
Deflating
Years of recruiting misses has caught up.
Deflating
Yup we have 5 misses in recruiting
Thats on coach
Thats on coach
Not asking them to play 40. But when the irons hot for an offensively challenged team keep striking till it cools off then sub. How many times have we seen a hot player hit the bench for a pregame formulated sub pattern. The coaching staff needs to do better
13-3 when pike took out Cliff while Hunter was still playing is when we lost. All the momentum given right to Michigan
Then 38-40 Cam is lighting up the comeback and we sub him out. That’s when we lost the second time.
Infuriating because I love Pike but this is just insane how often this happens. I’d love to blame an assistant coach for these unreal sub patterns
Then 38-40 Cam is lighting up the comeback and we sub him out. That’s when we lost the second time.
Infuriating because I love Pike but this is just insane how often this happens. I’d love to blame an assistant coach for these unreal sub patterns
Pike should have stuck with the lineup til the next media timeout. The Hockey line change sucked the life out of great start.
IMO, Pike really effed up there. He did NOT need to substitute ANYONE THERE! We have a chance to blow them out of the building and Pike's piss poor decision to substitute not only got Michigan right back into the game, but gave them huge confidence and we never recovered. Terrible move by him.
It was the beginning of the damn game! There was NO REASON to take them out. NONE. He did this another time (I can't think of the game right now) earlier in the season and we NEVER RECOVERED. He blew this game and our kids shot like **** especially from the FT line! We're a 72% FT shooting team and we shot 29%. Shame on them.
But it was the WRONG TIME to take them out. And you don't take out 3 of your starters, especially Cliff there. We were poised to blow them out of OUR building and instead allowed them right back into the game and we never recovered.
WRONG! Yes, it's talent, but that is why with such an important game, you DON'T substitute there. you just don't. It was a total dumb _ucking move by him.
It's always the wrong time to take Cliff out bc Dean comes in
As soon as Reiber comes in you can count on the opponent going on a 10 pt run.
at least Wolf pushed Hunter and said "not on me"...
announcer pointed out UM +12 with Cliff out right then early.
I agree subbing during the run might not have been the smartest thibg
But people complaining about subbing is an ongoing thing - and frankly I just laugh cause I think that any sub he makes is likely to look bad because the drop off is so steep from the starters to the bench.
It’s about the lack of talent/depth - THAT ultimately is the core of the issue - which is also on the staff
Cliff gets tired and becomes ineffective. That’s why he gets rested. It would be great if he could play 40 but that’s not happening.
I blame pike for not creating an animitronic cliff that can play at full-throttle for 40 minutes
Lol, so take them out immediately upon gaining momentum? The whole game flipped and 3ber had no chance against Hunter
Yes, it is about the lack of depth. But that's why you have to be judicial in your substitution patterns. Pike really blew it there taking out 3 starters and having two of our softest players in there on defense (Reiber and Palmquist). I'm not complaining about substitutions as much as when it happed. We're up 13-3. We're poised to blow them out of the building and Pike decides, oh, good time to substitute which as you know led them right back into the game, gained confidence and we never controlled the game again. Just an AWFUL move by him.
If we didn’t sub we would have won 65-15. Just imagine that!
It’s the wrong time because momentum runs are tireless and exhilarating with zero need for rest
Yeah that was inexplicable and meanwhile not taking Palmquist out no words for that
I get it. Don’t disagree.
You’re concentrating on that particular decision - which , again, I get it
I’m talking about the general issue of people complaining any time he puts a bench guy in and people complain about the “substitution patterns” and again I generally laugh cause I just see that he doesn’t have any depth. He’s starting Oscar for goodness sake!!!!!!!
Subs are what kill us every game!!! It is NOT because they aren’t decent players..it’s just when and how Pike does it.
When: when we are actually playing well it ruins the flow of the game
How: he doesn’t make 1 or 2 subs rather a wholesale change of 3 players.
Infuriates me every-time as I feel he does it based on time rather than the flow of the game
When: when we are actually playing well it ruins the flow of the game
How: he doesn’t make 1 or 2 subs rather a wholesale change of 3 players.
Infuriates me every-time as I feel he does it based on time rather than the flow of the game
Yeah, what the hell happened to Aundre tonight? He airballed two threes, couldn't make his FT's and then disappeared. On a night when we really needed him, he was a no show.