$15 burger flippers and free education
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I have no clue what you are alluding to in this post.
But these are two political points I differ from Bernie on. I don't favor a federal increase of the Minimum wage to $15 but I do favor a much more modest increase. And I don't favor a federal initiative for free college education to all citizens. A college education is a priviledge and not a right guaranteed by the constitution. I can be for other programs improving the accessibility to a college education but not free.
What does that have to do with the crazy stuff going on college campuses right now?
We need to dry up govt expenditures for college tuition. That's the only way to get them to roll back the cost of going to college. Wages seek out their correct level. If you are worth it, the boss will pay you more. If he won't, someone else will.
Supposedly there are protests all across the country today on campuses demanding $15/hr for college workers and free education.
Unless I'm mistaken, that doesn't have anything to do with what he's talking about.
Fed up with rising student debt and the continuing climb of tuition costs, college students across the country are planning to walk out of classrooms today to demand change.
Students on more than 100 campuses said they plan to protest—from the University of California system on the West Coast to private colleges around the Boston area in the East. The event, called the Million Student March, was organized mainly through social media, so it’s unclear how many students will show up to participate.
The students are pushing for a $15 minimum wage for student employees on college campuses, free tuition at public universities, and the abolition of student debt.
I don't understand the outcry over tuition free college at public schools. K-12 is already free ... is it really that much of a departure from the norm if 4 more years is provided for those that want it?
Having said that, I'm not in favor of it just being free without certain requirements. I'm more in favor of a loan that you don't have to repay, or have to repay very little if you meet certain performance standards while in school. For instance, I've had employers that offer tuition loans that you don't pay back if you get an 'A' in the course, you pay back 20% if you get a 'B', 40% for a 'C', and the full amount for anything else. I would also limit it to 4 years ... possibly 5 depending on the degree program. (for instance a dual degree program in Computer Engineering and Electrical Engineering at WVU was 5 years)
It's still available, as far as I know, but working with somebody in the NG that used it, it doesn't seem to work exactly as promised. However, why not have a system that doesn't require military service?
I know a lot of people that wanted to go to college and when they got there they flunked out - should we be on the hook for those people? Should we be on the hook for those people who get degrees that can't produce anything - engineering versus philosophy.
Why not have a system that requires some sort of service be it military or some other service?
I have no issue with that whatsoever. That's the way the Promise scholarship is supposed to work, if I understand it properly. When you get done, you stay in the state for 2 years. That's not exactly what you're talking about, but I'd have no issue with some kind of community service being part of the requirements.
I was mistaken ... I hadn't seen anything about these protests that he was referring to. I thought he was just referring to Sanders' policies.
Why don't these students picket classes until some of these colleges ROLL BACK the fees they are charging? We all know that many schools rake in Millions and some Billions. They should also demand that the schools ROLL BACK some of the exorbitant salaries they are paying. There is no way students are getting a fair return for what they pay in a lot of institutions of higher learning.
They would have to provide the service first before getting the college education
I just watched some of the protesters at SUNY spell out their demands. They want totally free tuition and a total forgiveness of student loan debt. Here is a link about todays protests. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/students-across-u-march-over-debt-free-public-110404606.html
Have you ever looked at your personal property tax bill? You do own taxable property, do you not?
I am aware of that. How much of WVU's expenses are subsidized by the non attending state taxpayers? I would also bet that Harvard gets as much or more from non attending taxpayers.
That's exactly how liberals think. K-12 is not free. Someone is paying for it. Now, libs want "free" college. First of all, colleges and universities are enormously inefficient. Costs are out of control and need to be dramatically reduced. Why on earth would we subsidize this inefficiency? It would make the problem much, much worse with schools having zero incentive to improve.
Secondly, who is going to pay for it? Thirdly, not all kids should go to college. Why pay for those who attend only to skip classes and flunk out? There are too many problems to name with this stupidity.
When college professors start getting paid what public school teachers get paid the education should be interesting.
Some people you would think would have the capacity to think, should be able to reason that the bills the government pick up are not free. Government produces nothing to sell. Therefore the money they have to spend comes from somebody in the form of taxes(the people). Not a complex issue at all. Unlike income from private enterprise which perpetuates itself to survive. Government must collect taxes each business cycle to maintain a life. It does not perpetuate itself by producing a goods or service to sell to meet the payroll to get people to work to produce the good or service to sell for income. The government must collect tax each time it makes a payroll or buy supplies to operate.