Anyone get the feeling the coaches are struggling? We're about 10 short with approx. 15 days to go, and everything is strangely quiet. Are we not going to fill, or will there be a last minute rush of recruits? My thoughts are not important - but I would like to hear others' input. What say ye?
2 weeks from Wed and all is (unfortunately) quiet
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Ye says there are 45 other threads just like this, you'll find what you need if you just click a page or two down the list...
The short answer to this question is; no, I do not believe the coaches are struggling.
The long answer is as follows:
IMO we are favored to secure commitments from the following recruits: Tony Butler, Dez Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, Matt Farniok, and Tramal Ivy. This would put us at 20 commitments.
We also have a good shot with: Alaric Jackson, Noah Fant, Isiah Simmons, Devron Davis, and Collin Miller
We won't get all of these recruits but you can bet that we will get the majority of them and there will be a few that aren't on this list we will get as well. Getting a commitment from even a few of these highly rated recruits will boost our class ranking significantly. When you compete with the best teams in the country for recruits, sometimes you have to wait until signing day to see the fruits of that labor. I believe we end up somewhere between 20 and 25 in the final rankings.
More concerning though, is our lack of defensive line recruits. Hopefully there is someone we haven't heard about (preferably at DT) and we can secure commitments from both Collin Miller and Tramal Ivy (who is an academic risk). I think we look back on this class and love the offensive line recruits but wish we had done better on the DL.
The long answer is as follows:
IMO we are favored to secure commitments from the following recruits: Tony Butler, Dez Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, Matt Farniok, and Tramal Ivy. This would put us at 20 commitments.
We also have a good shot with: Alaric Jackson, Noah Fant, Isiah Simmons, Devron Davis, and Collin Miller
We won't get all of these recruits but you can bet that we will get the majority of them and there will be a few that aren't on this list we will get as well. Getting a commitment from even a few of these highly rated recruits will boost our class ranking significantly. When you compete with the best teams in the country for recruits, sometimes you have to wait until signing day to see the fruits of that labor. I believe we end up somewhere between 20 and 25 in the final rankings.
More concerning though, is our lack of defensive line recruits. Hopefully there is someone we haven't heard about (preferably at DT) and we can secure commitments from both Collin Miller and Tramal Ivy (who is an academic risk). I think we look back on this class and love the offensive line recruits but wish we had done better on the DL.
Actually, things are shaping up nicely. The stars are from 247 Composite, not Rivals (Rivals is just dumb).
- Sounds like Tony Butler (3 stars) could announce for N today or tomorrow.
- Lamar Jackson (4 stars), who had (I think 10 crystal balls for NU) just got the Rivals #1 safety in the country.
- OT Alaric Jackson (3 stars) is trending toward NU.
- Devron Davis (3 stars but #4 CB) is a JUCO corner back who is highly regarded.
- OT Marr Farniok (4 stars) appears to have told Michigan State no thanks (MSU has just shifted to their backups after Farniok visited there), leaving NU and Io_a.
- Tramal Ivy (3 stars) is a good JUCO DE who is leaning to NU altho he is a bit of an academic risk. He is good enough to go after him regardless.
- Issiah Simmons (4 stars) is a safety from Olathe, KS is down to us and Miami atho Harbaugh is sniffing around. NU was Simmons' first good offer and the staff has been after him a tick going for blood.
- Dez Fitzgerald (4 stars) receiver who is all but committed to NU.
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I think Hughes said they wanted to carry 16 total DLinemen. I think we are at 15 with the departures and our most pressing need is at DE. I doubt they take a DT just to take a DT. I'm sure they would find room for the right guy but we have limited spots there.
I think you need to post this thread, slightly reworded, every day (until signing day) to give the perception that the "sky is falling" since we obviously don't share your angst, yet. Good luck on your mission to sway the mood of this overly positive message board.
247 composite has NU at #35 with 15 commits. There are only two teams in front of us who have fewer commits (TX and USC at 14 commits). You aren't stupid so you know that at 15 commits our ranking is going to go up. Unless you just like pissing on threads with a little positive vibe I'm struggling to understand why you had to post that.
When we move up, I'll post that as well. To quote Bill Parcells..."You are what you're record says you are." He wasn't stupid either.
Apples and oranges here...
Parcells never counted losses after trailing in games in the 3rd quarter. He waited til the game was over. Bad analogy.
Ok, but in my opinion we are down 2 and in the red zone...
OK, just please no Andy Reid clock management!
What is "a lot closer"? Will we finish in the teens then? I am sure there are recruiting gurus that feel that they know this stuff well so maybe you are right.
For most of us, let's just wait and see what the results are. The only thing I ask is that we not have moving goal posts. We were told that Riley was a great identifier of talent and that big schools would get in our kids (and I assume drive their ratings higher). However, since this is Nebraska and not OSU the recruiting would be great. Thus, if someone would have told me one year ago that our first year splash was #25 or even #20 I would have been sorely disappointed. If we are in the top 15 then things may be looking up.
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time for a bubble screenOk, but in my opinion we are down 2 and in the red zone...
Seems weird to be on a Rivals board and use 247 numbers.
Not really.
- Rivals effectively downgrades players who do not camp at the Rivals camps.
- 247 Composite is an average of 247, Scout and Rivals, so I did sort of use Rivals in my post.
- But you knew that already.
Nah. Hail Mary is what we need. And they seem to be working this year.
We can't move where you have placed the goal posts... But just because you have placed the goal posts in the top 15 doesn't mean that was the consensus of the board.
Frankly, I didn't know what to expect, other than that recruiting would improve. This is what we were told by the experts and on the board by those who know more than me. So far, the organizational skills and the approach show a ton of improvement. Will it show in the recruits? We will see. But I'm not ever sure my goal posts were where you have placed your goal posts, because I didn't know what to expect.
Disappointed at #20 but looking up if #15?is there really that much difference in those two classes?
I'll be very happy with a top 25 class that doesn't get a bunch of its guys kicked off for busting beer bottles over teammates heads, flunk out after a couple of years, get kicked off for repeated positive drug tests, etc etc etc. Considering how Riley's late pick ups last year look, I think a couple of years from now we will be happy with this class and how they've contributed.
Like you, the DT's, or lack thereof, have me concerned, but if those you have listed come our way, most Husker fans should be pleased. Why do you think that our recruiting is so late in coming to fruition when the Michigans, Penn St., Ohio St., Iowas, Wisc. have pretty much locked up their class weeks/months ago? Is it the newness of our coaches and lack of long-term relationships with most of the recruits?
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2 Responses to your comment: #1. This time of the year there is nothing else to discuss about football except recruiting. #2. National signing day is Feb. 3rd and we are short 10 commits. I have no idea who will or won't commit and was wondering what the consensus of the board was, after admitting I had no idea. Now if my comment got your shorts in a bunch, I'm sorry - but I think you're taking something out on me that's a little unfair.
I don`t feel the staff is struggling at all from everything I have read. I feel good about 8 of our final targets.
I said what I said. There. Too much negative repetitive posting. Maybe you didn't intend it. I guess I'm really tired of it.
This will be a good class for us. Riley has a lot to do. Changing the culture. Recruiting his players. We just hope that Pelini's players become Riley's players. I think we all saw that vs. UCLA.
No one said Top 10 except his detractors.
He was a good coach but I lose a lot of respect for anyone who believes that. There has been many times the Super Bowl champ had a worse record than one or more teams. Doesn't mean they aren't the Super Bowl champ just because they didn't have the best record.
So how much is a difference? I was disappointed that Bo Pelini averaged the 23rd rated classes. But I'm supposed to be happy if we get that ranking or a couple spots higher?
(Cue the "Rivals doesn't know anything about ranking players" card.)
Fant is already Iowa's and either Farniok or A. Jackson will beIowa's (depending on who Iowa decides to take).
The good news is you will probably get the leftovers.
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Top 25 class is acceptable - especially if needs on defense are addressed (Juco DE and CB would be great) and we add quality everywhere else. Whoever we sign - we have to cover better and generate a pass rush without loosing our ability to stop the run. In 2016.....get on it Banker.
No, top 25 class is not acceptable. Unless the goal is just to be a "pretty good" team. Top 25 class is "since it's your first year, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt with the understanding that next year needs to be better."
The good news is that their standing with several marquee '17 recruits seems to be solid. That's the reason to believe improvement is on the horizon.
As it has been all season, it's a perfectly fair question. "Signing day is soon, and NU is far behind a large number of other schools. Should we expect that this is the best you can do?"
there are at least 4 recruits who can all but be counted as commits already. they just want the extra attention for another couple weeks.
I'm not sure why this particular class is closing late. I think part of it has to do with the fact that we are battling with big programs for big commits. It doesn't really matter to me as long as we end up with a good class in the end. However, comparing our class to Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and Penn State in terms of when we get the commits may have a lot to do with where those commits are from. It's a lot easier to get early commits from your back yard because those kids are already comfortable with your school, especially if those kids are highly rated and highly sought after.
Michigan State and Penn State really only have 2 commits a piece from outside there 200 mile footprint.
Ohio State has 4 or 5 but one of them is Joey Bosa's little brother and 4 of them are from Urban's old stomping ground in Florida.
Michigan is the outlier because Harbaugh has really recruited nationally. Most of his commits are outside the footprint. Only 6 of their commits are from their footprint. What he has done is pretty amazing especially when you consider only 1 of their other commits is from California, where he used to coach. Interestingly, 12 of their 23 committed in the same month (June of 2015).
I would expect us to jump both Wisconsin and Iowa in the rankings. Wisconsin's class is MUCH better than Iowa's though. Iowa has zero 4 or 5 star players and is actually rated 49th in average star ranking (rivals). I'd rather wait and take better players in the end then fill up with low rated 2 and 3 stars like Iowa did.
Wisconsin took 9 or 10 from their footprint including 4 from their own state. They also added 4 from Florida. This may end up being similar to Nebraska's class. We currently have 6 or 7 from our footprint and we should end up with 4 or 5 from California.