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2013 RBs: Who will break out and will return to what has worked in the past?

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RougeDawg

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The returning group of RB's is as deep/good as we have had in a long time, and possibly ever had as a collective. The stable is so full, we are now able to RS incoming RB's and let them develop before being thrown into SEC action. Perkins, Griffin, Robinson, and Milton are all average to better than average SEC running backs. Perkins has shown he can be explosive and should be #1, but I do not see much, if any drop off when any of the others are in the game. Having 4 capable backs is a good thing to have. Griffin has had a few fumbles, but he's a big hard runner. Which one of the 3, besides Perkins do you think will have the most impact this year? Based on what I saw Robinson may be the most productive back this year running the ball. This brings me to my second question.

What happened to the RB screen pass at the end of last year? That seemed to be our bread and butter play under Mullen and it repeatedly broke OM's back for 3 consecutive Egg Bowls. We got away from it last year while we have a back that thrives off the play. Perkins does the most damage in the open field and this play would put him one on one with LBs/DBs but we abandoned it late in the year. Not only is Perkins great in open space on a swing/screen pass, running these plays also keeps the defense honest. It keeps the D Ends from coming in as hard also. If we can get back to the screens and quick passes, we can win 8 regular season games this year.
 
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Rezpup

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Milton looked so much quicker and faster in the spring game to me. I know, it's hard to tell anything in that one but he still looked like a different player to me.
Big J. Robinson fan from the start.

Im not as high on Perkins as most people are - very good receiving back but poor vision it seems.

Rooting for Griffin - its amazing how well they fix knee ligaments these days.
 
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RougeDawg said:
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What happened to the RB screen pass at the end of last year? ...
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I may be the only one, but honestly if we can't execute any better this year on the screen, I don't want to see it. It seemed to get pulled out at the most predictable times, develop slowly and not get blocked very well. I lost a year of life for every time we ran it last year. I fully expected some defender to pick 6 one at some point. I was glad that it went into hibernation before it killed me outright!
 
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Joe Schmedlap

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Perkins is definitely an above average back. None of the others have proven to be average by SEC standards yet. Maybe this year that will change. Milton seems to have very good vision. Josh Robinson runs hard, every play. But, can they pass block? Can they catch the ball out of the backfield? (LP certainly can catch). Can they avoid fumblitis? Can they remember the plays (I recall Robinson running the wrong direction last year, resulting in a busted play and lost yardage followed by a missed long field goal). Can Griffin recover from his second knee injury? I thought Nick had all the prerequisites to be our best back, but then the injury bug struck.

Is it likely that Shumpert redshirts in 2013?
 
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I think they are all good and capable backs. Got some speed, some semi-power, and low level pads due to size but they all hit their spots pretty hard. Having this many that you can put in at any time will definitely help with depth and keeping fresh guys in all times. Actually have an advantage over the teams that lean on that one "superstar" back that you have to keep in on every play. Any can be explosive if you need them to but all different from each other in their own respect
 
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GANGBANGDOG

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Griffin will not play this year, unless late in the season and be done. I would rather him get a medical redshirt and come back next year. LDP is better than the credit he gets, I understand, he's not a in between the tackles runner, but he's our best back. Milton is better than JRob by a good bit. JRob is great, but just isn't a every down back (he's a bigger LDP). Milton is the future every down guy for us.
 
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That first line is garbage, griffin will be ready early in the year. He may not play at first but he could if we absolutely needed him to be. But I so agree about Milton, he seems like the better runner to me but I have no idea if he is a more complete back than Robinson, pass catching, blocking etc. if Milton can do both of those at a high level and hold onto the ball I think he could be special. It's really a shame that griffin has the injury bug because he's our best back in one of the deepest groups we've had. I would say it is the deepest we've had but I think he had dicenzo, griffith, walker turner and norwoodtogether for one year (turner and norwood may have been after griffith and miller).
 
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GANGBANGDOG

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Cadaver, you're a great poster. Lets be real, griffin ain't playing this year! If you don't think Milt is better than a fat Perk (JRob) you're stupid. Look atem, watchem.
 
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Yeah Griff will be ready,but they wont let him play until, I said, the guys had 3 ACL surgeries in the last 5 years. He won't play this year, unless he knows its over (wants to be done)If he wants a future check in football it's next year. No, I'm not saying he will be drafted, just saying.

ETA, he knows this also, and will not play.
 
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CadaverDawg

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GANGBANGDOG said:
Cadaver, you're a great poster. Lets be real, griffin ain't playing this year! If you don't think Milt is better than a fat Perk (JRob) you're stupid. Look atem, watchem.
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I think Griffin plays early. I think Robinson is better than Milton. I think you're a horrible poster.

I feel confident that I am right about all 3 of the above statements.
 
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GANGBANGDOG

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So you think someone who is 10-11 months off of his 3rd ACL surgery plays early? How early? The JRob love kills me, what has he done? Why doesn't he start? Keep on, keeping on with your ********. I feel even more confident, you have always been full of ****.
 
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GANGBANGDOG said:
So you think someone who is 10-11 months off of his 3rd ACL surgery plays early? How early? The JRob love kills me, what has he done? Why doesn't he start? Keep on, keeping on with your ********. I feel even more confident, you have always been full of ****.
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1) Griffin is already healthy, so yes.
2) You just said in a previous post that he would be ready, the coaches just wouldn't play him...so which is it? You've changed views twice in one thread, idiot.
3) If the coaches let him play, he could be available in Game 1. Will they play him? Who knows.
4) JRob has shown a lot more than Milton at this point...so why don't you tell me "What has HE done"?
5) You follow up saying "Cadaver, you're a great poster" a few posts up, with "you've always been full of ****"...brilliant.

Please keep posting so you can continue to keep embarrassing yourself.

One day you will learn that to be taken seriously it helps to make a little sense and/or add something of value occasionally. You can't just spew bull **** as if it's facts and have everyone think you know what you're talking about.
 
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J-Rob averaged 6 yards per carry last year behind an average run blocking line and earned more carries than he was given after the Tennessee game just like Quay should've been given more snaps defensively. When are we going to start putting our best players on the field regardless of how long they've been in the program?
 
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GANGBANGDOG

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Maybe your dubmass needs to read again on Milton #2 of your ******** post. Where did I say the coaches wouldn't play him?????!?!??!!????????
Enough said idiot!!!
 
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CadaverDawg

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Rezpup said:
J-Rob averaged 6 yards per carry last year behind an average run blocking line and earned more carries than he was given after the Tennessee game just like Quay should've been given more snaps defensively. When are we going to start putting our best players on the field regardless of how long they've been in the program?
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I agree. I hope Collins will end that **** on the defensive side, but I don't know if it will change offensively. Perkins between the tackles multiple times per game has got to stop. And thank God Cherry is gone, and Wilson too.
 
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CadaverDawg

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GANGBANGDOG said:
Maybe your dubmass needs to read again on Milton #2 of your ******** post. Where did I say the coaches wouldn't play him??!?!??!!??
Enough said idiot!!!
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Here ya go, 17face...

"Yeah Griff will be ready,but they wont let him play" - Sandman/GangBangsDudes

Typical Sandman to start rambling and contradicting yourself when you are being made to look like a damn fool.
 
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Rezpup

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J-Rob's cutback ten yard or so touchdown run against UT and his long run against Northwestern are a couple of things he has done. Maybe his pass blocking can improve or something but he can damn sure run it inside or out.
 
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CadaverDawg

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DAWG61 said:
Hahaha this thread is hilarious!! How did he get the name Sandman?
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He was Sandman on EliteDawgs, but got kicked off the board bc he was such a damn awful poster. It took all of one post for everyone to figure out who he was over here bc his first post was calling out Engie about being a know it all, or something stupid like that.
 
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DAWG61

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Ohh yea I remember that post now. Haha he might as well get banned now and try again. We have Goat Jr. here.
 
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I don't think a good running back group has Perkins running between the tackles alot. Last year, Griffin was the only one that looked like he could get it done against elite defenses. Not only was he better at running, but for all people talk about Perkins beting the best pass blocker, Griffin looked like the only one that slowed down LSU defenders. If Griffin had not gotten hurt, I'd feel pretty good about having him as our primary back or he and Perkins splitting an even load. I thought Robinson looked good and I would have preferred him running between the tackles to Perkins, but I assume he must be well behind Perkins in things like ball security and pass blocking or something else for the Staff to rely on Perkins so much more.

Overall, unless Robinson or Milton breaks out, or Griffin had a miracle recovery, I don't feel particularly great about our RBs. We know they will be solid, but I don't know if we have one guy that can really grind out yards against an LSU or Bama defense.
 
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Perkins will be better than solid for us. As for the rest, they are all good but I have a feeling it may be Milton that stands out. Last year he looked awesome on one play and lost on the next, but you could see he was right on the edge of breaking out. Hopefully another year will keep the lost episodes to a minimum this time around.

I really hope Robinson gets a fair share of carries simply because he can punish tacklers.

Judgement is still out on Griffin because of his injuries. I think all we can hope for is for him to have some opportunities to contribute.

As far as your question on screens goes, screens depend more on linemen than backs. Linemen set up and execute that play or kill it. I don't think they operated well enough as a group to have a lot of confidence in calling that play last season. What little coaching I did on a much lower level that college taught me that you have to have a solid, cohesive group of linemen to call that play, otherwise it would end up in a cluster 17. I would guess that having everyone back and more depth may lend itself to seeing screens called more for the backs than the WRs this season. I have never been a fan of the WR screen.
 
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