2022 World Cup - USA team thread
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At the very least they do need to do their due diligence. Get a list of possible candidates and put out feelers quietly. If that list has a couple of no brainers on it and one is on board to do it....it wouldn't be the end of the my world if it happened. If GB stays, he got out of the group stage and that bar has been raised for him and the team. Although that holds true regardless of the next HC. Thanks for the civil and balanced discussion.
You didn't ask me but the new coach should be the best man for the job. Not the brother of someone in charge.
Snide comments aside, I think its important to have someone who has an understanding of how soccer in the united states is structured but also, someone who has also seen organizations abroad. That is a very hard needle to thread.
I have seen the name Juan Carlos Osorio come up. He coached the Mexican national team but also in the US. I don't think having a latin American coach is a great thing as well. But I am sure there are other similar options out there.
Number one on my list is Jesse Marsch. Obviously he is at Leeds right now, but just by nature of being in the EPL, he would most likely be free in a year or two.
No problem. The USMNT is the only team I follow as closely as I do PSU football.
Not necessarily. It's tricky though if what Davies stated is true about the current locker room and I have no reason to doubt him. These ex players talk all the time on their own and they know the feel of the locker room. McBride and Stewart yielding some power here so it will be interesting to see what occurs. Like I said they need to create a list of decent candidates, do some homework, and see if any fish are biting, but they need to be pretty selective too.
GB did his job on the field and they could keep him or they could thank him and say....we are hiring Coach X who has a bit more pedigree and maybe take the team to a new height. No matter the coach or country you see people question the lineups, call ups, and formations....so the outroar that you see sometimes is more of a chihuahaa barking than a pit bull. It's no different than irrational Franklin haters who will find any quote or single play to freak out over. The next HC will still get questioned on the lineups, call ups for friendlies....etc. That will never go away.
The actions of Reyna are completely on him. It seems as if it was dealt with internally, as it should have been.
Yes, leaks happen. However, the fact that this was leaked by Berhalter is completely on him. It doesn't matter if he thought it was off the record. He was in the wrong for disclosing any internal team issues to anyone outside of USSoccer this soon after it happened. The fact that he did this at a 'Summit on Moral Leadership' is just hilariously bad.
Given how hard it is to build trust among an international team, which are always dispersed to the four corners of the soccer world, I wonder how the rest of the team feels about Berhalter's actions.
Yes, leaks happen. However, the fact that this was leaked by Berhalter is completely on him. It doesn't matter if he thought it was off the record. He was in the wrong for disclosing any internal team issues to anyone outside of USSoccer this soon after it happened. The fact that he did this at a 'Summit on Moral Leadership' is just hilariously bad.
Given how hard it is to build trust among an international team, which are always dispersed to the four corners of the soccer world, I wonder how the rest of the team feels about Berhalter's actions.
Something to keep in mind, the USMNT job is not as unattractive as it was in 2018/2019. The US will be hosting the next World Cup, just got to the knockout rounds of this World Cup, and has a roster full of young players, playing for various important and/or respectable clubs, who will be heading toward the primes of their careers. The biggest knock I see with the job is a sparse calendar the next few years since we will not being participating in qualifying.
Over all, depending on the timing/availability of course, the US should be able to attract a few more interested managers than was the case in the previous cycle. What still remains to be seen is how interested are Stewart and company in 1) retaining Berhalter or vice-versa, and 2) being open to pursuing foreign managers vis-a-vis American managers. Another aspect here that could be a factor is that we are not obligated to make a hire right now all the way through the next World Cup. US Soccer could conceivably re-sign Berhalter through 2024 (Copa America) and reevaluate the position then, or if Berhalter exits and goes elsewhere now, then they could go the interim manager route (like they did in 2018) until they find a permanent manager in time for the lead up to Copa America. A lot of things can happen, but I still default to I think they will choose to retain Berhalter either for another half cycle or full (despite the fact that I want a fresh start with a coaching staff).
Over all, depending on the timing/availability of course, the US should be able to attract a few more interested managers than was the case in the previous cycle. What still remains to be seen is how interested are Stewart and company in 1) retaining Berhalter or vice-versa, and 2) being open to pursuing foreign managers vis-a-vis American managers. Another aspect here that could be a factor is that we are not obligated to make a hire right now all the way through the next World Cup. US Soccer could conceivably re-sign Berhalter through 2024 (Copa America) and reevaluate the position then, or if Berhalter exits and goes elsewhere now, then they could go the interim manager route (like they did in 2018) until they find a permanent manager in time for the lead up to Copa America. A lot of things can happen, but I still default to I think they will choose to retain Berhalter either for another half cycle or full (despite the fact that I want a fresh start with a coaching staff).
I think an understanding of both the current US soccer structure and a knowledge of the structure of other countries would be crucial. I would also add that someone with the ability to convince the US soccer power brokers to make changes is just as important.
It seems like the players were onboard with the benching of Reyna, but it getting out could be the issue. I posted a comment above from Charlie Davies and it appears that the team was behind GB. Reyna was in the wrong and the fact they were close to sending him home just reinforces that. He was spoken to by the staff and his teammates on more than one occasion while over there. Why GB thought to bring it up even off the record is odd/stupid, but the more that seems to come out the more it was an immature player acting like a brat. This was the World Cup and this is what people are talking about? He was a distraction to his own team and while it got out....that in itself is the problem. I'm happy the TEAM and the staff called him out on it and it going public may ensure he never pulls this stunt again regardless of the HC.
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I agree Reyna was a brat and needed to be taken to task.
However, I question the leadership of a coach that would disclose these details off the record with outsiders while at a leadership summit. If I was one of the other players, I would have some serious trust issues with Berhalter.
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Yeah, it’s not something I personally could ignore.
It very well may have. Sounds like some on the team were upset with him playing Reyna at all versus the UK for 10 minutes. They may not trust him and if that is the case it will find its way back to the right people. It doesn’t sound like that is the case thus far, but you never know. It may take time or maybe there isn’t a rift.
I used to like the kid and thought I wanted him on the pitch more for the USMNT. No more. Screw him. He was born with a silver spoon but only wants to eat Michelin meals with it. I don't want to see him in a US kit again. He's 20 not 6.
He was still a teenager just two weeks ago. He apologized, he will grow up.
He'll be a huge part of the USMNT moving forward. This too shall pass and the message that was sent by the team and staff is a great one. F--k off and you'll go home or be left off the roster. We all hate that this even occorred and got out, but the long term will be a positive as the players will be there regardless of the staff or HC. Most of which are barely older than him and now have to hold up those standards for the next 2-3 WC's.
The US does not produce a talent to the level of Gio very often. I mean, he may even be the highest raw talent we've ever produced. The kid has been through a lot in his young life and I think this is the right age to learn from all this. We will need him in the years to come and we will need him to stay fit.
So #10 GOAT vs. the next generation #10....old man on his way out, 22 year old phenom who has never lost a Cup game. Europe vs. S. America.....just a great final.
One of the few on this planet rooting against Messi to lift the cup I see. Boooo.
Pulisic still regrets missed chance in WC exit
United States talisman Christian Pulisic has said he is still haunted by the memory of a chance he missed against Netherlands in the World Cup.
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There’s a lot of pressure involved, but it might seem that the best way of of dealing with your mistakes is to put them in your rear-view pdq.Pulisic still regrets missed chance in WC exit
United States talisman Christian Pulisic has said he is still haunted by the memory of a chance he missed against Netherlands in the World Cup.
Remember Georgetown’s Fred Brown, who threw away the ball in the closing seconds of the UNC championship game? Thompson refused to let this become a thing and the next year he won a championship.
Pulisic is out for at least the next two months with a knee injury. This is really a shame since he just started getting a run of starts under Potter.
As an aside, @Tom McAndrew should we perhaps start a new USMNT thread for 2023 since the WC is obviously over?
As an aside, @Tom McAndrew should we perhaps start a new USMNT thread for 2023 since the WC is obviously over?
I already started a new USMNT thread:
USMNT Thread
With the 2022 World Cup over, it's time to start a general thread for the USMNT. Please use this to discuss any news, issues, friendlies, etc. involving the USMNT.
Establishing it in perpetuity, I see.I already started a new USMNT thread:
USMNT Thread
With the 2022 World Cup over, it's time to start a general thread for the USMNT. Please use this to discuss any news, issues, friendlies, etc. involving the USMNT.www.on3.com
Sorry, it got so buried I even forgot it was there.I already started a new USMNT thread:
USMNT Thread
With the 2022 World Cup over, it's time to start a general thread for the USMNT. Please use this to discuss any news, issues, friendlies, etc. involving the USMNT.
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