2025-26 PSU MBB Thread

PSUForever

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Wait until Mingos younger brother announces. If he does not pick Penn State, then go ahead and kick everybody to the curb. If he does pick Penn State, then rhoads would’ve pulled off the biggest upset in recruiting history.
When is Mingo's brother announcing? It is so bad he may not get enough time to wait for that. More likely scenario is Mingo portals and his brother doesn't come.
 

Bison13

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When is Mingo's brother announcing? It is so bad he may not get enough time to wait for that. More likely scenario is Mingo portals and his brother doesn't come.
It was supposed to be two days ago, but he pushed it back. I think it will be Baylor, they are throwing tons of $ around, but now that they are bringing in NBA cast offs, they may be following the IU football model and going for older guys who just happen to be ex pros.

They delay is probably due to $, since they are paying out a large amount to the NBA guy, my guess is the Mongo family is renegotiating
 
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Went 2-3 zone… Wisky ran a simple 1-3-1 offense against it. PSU… let the middle open… when ball was passed to the wing the Wisky player was allowed to penetrate to the middle…and my absolute favorite… PSU allowed the short corner to catch the ball. I so wish I saw a team play this defense when I coached!
 

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Yet the line was only 5.5 points.
That's because Wisconsin is by no means a powerhouse team this season; at best, they're just a good Big 10 team that's not going to win anything of importance. Yet, they waltz into Rec Hall and dismantle this hapless PSU team.
 

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Went 2-3 zone… Wisky ran a simple 1-3-1 offense against it. PSU… let the middle open… when ball was passed to the wing the Wisky player was allowed to penetrate to the middle…and my absolute favorite… PSU allowed the short corner to catch the ball. I so wish I saw a team play this defense when I coached!
It seemed like they never practiced the defense before. Rhoades just decided to finally try something new and said "hey lets try a zone" and they just went and stood in spots. My favorite was when Reed was the block-corner defender on the right side of the offense. Wisconsin had noone on his half of the floor and he was playing defense almost up to the Ft line extended around 17 ft from the hoop. There was noone within 10 feet of him, he had to help on the high post guy but just stood and watched.
 

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It seemed like they never practiced the defense before. Rhoades just decided to finally try something new and said "hey lets try a zone" and they just went and stood in spots. My favorite was when Reed was the block-corner defender on the right side of the offense. Wisconsin had noone on his half of the floor and he was playing defense almost up to the Ft line extended around 17 ft from the hoop. There was noone within 10 feet of him, he had to help on the high post guy but just stood and watched.
That's the point. When you're at a tremendous talent disadvantage like PSU is against basically everyone in the Big 10, the easiest thing to do to at least be competitive is to play hard-nosed defense, which requires mostly effort and desire rather than pure talent. It's coaching negligence that this team plays very poor defense and is content with scoring over seventy points but still getting blown out by fifteen or twenty points.
 
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Does Pat go to Basketball games? Or does he just. Ride the bench. Any vids of the golf shot that the student made to win free rent for a year?
 

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That's the point. When you're at a tremendous talent disadvantage like PSU is against basically everyone in the Big 10, the easiest thing to do to at least be competitive is to play hard-nosed defense, which requires mostly effort and desire rather than pure talent. It's coaching negligence that this team plays very poor defense and is content in scoring over seventy points but still get blown out by fifteen or twnety points.
his teams at VCU were built on pressure D, his first year was the same but he relied on Ace last year and now none of the guys know how or like to play D.

He would be better off going to a big city and finding 5 tough kids who are super competitive and can move but might not be great basketball players. They would at least keep the team in games defensively
 

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Does Pat go to Basketball games? Or does he just. Ride the bench. Any vids of the golf shot that the student made to win free rent for a year?
That was the highlight of the evening.

The second time a kid has made the putt this year - which is amazing (90 foot "putt" over a basketball court - to a "hole" that looks to be about the width of an actual golf cup).
When I saw the first one, a month or so ago, I thought I could go to 200 games, and not see that happen again. I was very wrong.
 
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his teams at VCU were built on pressure D, his first year was the same but he relied on Ace last year and now none of the guys know how or like to play D.

He would be better off going to a big city and finding 5 tough kids who are super competitive and can move but might not be great basketball players. They would at least keep the team in games defensively
I've said before that this is what Ben Howland basically did when he took over a bad Pitt program; he had a team filled with a bunch of junkyard dogs who played ugly basketball but very quickly began to win a lot of games in the best conference in basketball, after which he and Jamie Dixon began to attract a higher caliber of player.
 

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I've said before that this is what Ben Howland basically did when he took over a bad Pitt program; he had a team filled with a bunch of junkyard dogs who played ugly basketball but very quickly began to win a lot of games in the best conference in basketball, after which he and Jamie Dixon began to attract a higher caliber of player.
Yeah PSU does not have the money, history or cache to get the top end kids. They need to be a team that is 'different' than other teams and thus hard to plan for. Something like Loyola Marymount or at least a super up tempo team, or maybe a bunch of white guys who shoot 3's and play a 2-3 like Syracuse, or a dirty in your face defensive team that slows it down and plays in the 50's, try something....

In his last decade Boeheim (POS) didnt get the talent he used to but he still won games because his defense was different than everyone and teams weren't prepared to play that style
 

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The most frustrating thing is how PSU doesn't block out. How many times does the opponent miss only to get an offensive rebound and easy put back?
Blocking out is fundamental to rebounding. Work for inside position, stick your butt into the opposing player, try to back him away/seal him off, and get your hands in position to grab the rebound. It takes effort and perhaps it's effort they don't want to expend?
 
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his teams at VCU were built on pressure D, his first year was the same but he relied on Ace last year and now none of the guys know how or like to play D.

He would be better off going to a big city and finding 5 tough kids who are super competitive and can move but might not be great basketball players. They would at least keep the team in games defensively
Seems like he doesn't understand what worked for him at VCU in the A10 doesn't work so well in the B10 due to the talent differential. Even his mentors at VCU Smart and Wade had to adjust their defensive approach when they moved up the competition ladder.

I also have some doubts about whether Crispin is the right person for the offense. Way too much staring and dribbling and not enough player and ball movement.
 

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Seems like he doesn't understand what worked for him at VCU in the A10 doesn't work so well in the B10 due to the talent differential. Even his mentors at VCU Smart and Wade had to adjust their defensive approach when they moved up the competition ladder.

I also have some doubts about whether Crispin is the right person for the offense. Way too much staring and dribbling and not enough player and ball movement.
He need shooters to do what he wants, they don’t really have any except ones who don’t play D
 
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Yeah PSU does not have the money, history or cache to get the top end kids. They need to be a team that is 'different' than other teams and thus hard to plan for. Something like Loyola Marymount or at least a super up tempo team, or maybe a bunch of white guys who shoot 3's and play a 2-3 like Syracuse, or a dirty in your face defensive team that slows it down and plays in the 50's, try something....

In his last decade Boeheim (POS) didnt get the talent he used to but he still won games because his defense was different than everyone and teams weren't prepared to play that style
Try to emulate what Tony Bennett started at UVA. His teams played suffocating defense and did not have the talent of Duke or UNC but still went toe to toe with them. We won't get UVA level talent but need to get guys who will grind and hustle on D like what Bennett got out of his teams.
 
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Try to emulate what Tony Bennett started at UVA. His teams played suffocating defense and did not have the talent of Duke or UNC but still went toe to toe with them. We won't get UVA level talent but need to get guys who will grind and hustle on D like what Bennett got out of his teams.
Huggins did that for years at WVU. He didn’t have shooters very often, but they won a lot of games.
 

johnmpsu

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Not looking good early. Turnovers, Ciani & Juric both missed the gym on 3 pt attempts, fouling the 3 pt shooter.

13-0 run by Wisconsin

Try to emulate what Tony Bennett started at UVA. His teams played suffocating defense and did not have the talent of Duke or UNC but still went toe to toe with them. We won't get UVA level talent but need to get guys who will grind and hustle on D like what Bennett got out of his teams.
This may not be a popular opinion but Chambers teams always played hard. The program would be better today had PSU not fired him.
 

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I don’t have any issues with firing Chambers. He got them to mediocrity, which for Penn State was an improvement, but there is nothing wrong with trying to do better. So you move on and find the next guy. Well, that is not looking good. Is it his coaching? A lack of dollars to “buy” players? I don’t know.

On the other hand I don’t really care anymore. It’s hard to give up on things you enjoyed or followed for so many years. The fact is minor league sports, what the college game is, just dont get me interested. I find myself enjoying high school basketball.
 
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Typical PSU. Juric fouls on the opening tip. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
 
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Bison13

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This is what I mean about the guys not wanting to play defense and not being very good at it. Mingo loses the ball and the guard from Ohio State brings it down in a three on two or 2v1 kind of break. Rice has the man with the ball, but then as soon as he gets to the three-point line, he turns his head to the ball and runs to the guy going down the right wing, leaving the guy, a clean path to the basket. Fortunately, their guard chose not to take the layup and kicked it out to the left corner.
 
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This is what I mean about the guys not wanting to play defense and not being very good at it. Mingo loses the ball and the guard from Ohio State brings it down in a three on two or 2v1 kind of break. Rice has the man with the ball, but then as soon as he gets to the three-point line, he turns his head to the ball and runs to the guy going down the right wing, leaving the guy, a clean path to the basket. Fortunately, their guard chose not to take the layup and kicked it out to the left corner.
Nobody takes the ball.
Sloppy ball handling.

The offense is just passing the ball around the perimeter. Dillione is the only one trying to penetrate.

And of course OSU gets a 3 pt opportunity on their 3rd attempt.

Next possession they don't even get a shot up.

Has Mingo already decided to portal? He shows no effort.
 
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johnmpsu

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Ignoring the defense they seem to do everything right to get a wide open shot and then miss. Nobody seems to be able to make a shot. That's a problem. You can't win if nobody can make a shot.
 

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What would you do if you were Rhoades? I'd be tempted to empty the bench.
 

Bison13

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They are getting the ball to the FT area but Reed has made some bad passes for TOs