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Ring It!!! Fightins win 6-4. Duran with 3 Ks in the top of the 9th for the save!!! The bottom of the order, and Lazardo bounding back after the top of the 1st, were the keys.

 

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I was chuckling the entire bottom of the ninth because the Mets had absolutely nothing for Duran. There have been a couple games in which the other team has gotten to him but dang, when he's on there's no answer for him. Hats off to Luzardo for shaking off the first inning and becoming a beast. Fun game to watch.
 

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Last year they did what?

played baseball. Different teams, different situations, different ...

last month, the Fightins traveled to NYC for a 3-game series against the NY Mets. They were swept by the Mets.

This week, the Mets traveled to Philadelphia for a 4-game series against the Fightins. The Fightins swept the series.

So which data set, both more recent than last year's playoffs, would you like to use to predict how the Fightins will do in the upcoming MLB playoffs? And why would either of these data sets be of any value in trying to predict how the Fightins do in the 2025 playoffs?

MLB baseball teams play 162 games in a season. They play 9 innings in any particular game. What happens in a particular inning in any game, or in a particular game during the season, only occasionally has a huge impact on that game, or in how a team does during a season, respectively. And then teams get to the playoffs, and what they've done against another team during the season, or what they did against a particular team in a prior year's playoff, is only marginally predictive of how a team will do in the playoff series. Which teams are hot, which teams have key injuries, which teams had a bye or didn't have a bye, are generally far more predictive of how a playoff series will go than anything that happened between teams during the season, or in past playoffs. And just when you think you've got it figured out in terms of predicting a playoff outcome in MLB, then a series goes the opposite of how all the trends are pointing. That's the nature of baseball, and why fans should never get too high after a successful inning, season, or playoff series, or too low after a poor inning, underperforming season, or a loss or two in a playoff series. Each game is unique, each series is unique, and every team is different from prior teams that played under the same name. That, in a nutshell, is MLB baseball, and why it's so enjoyable to watch.
 

Grant Green

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played baseball. Different teams, different situations, different ...

last month, the Fightins traveled to NYC for a 3-game series against the NY Mets. They were swept by the Mets.

This week, the Mets traveled to Philadelphia for a 4-game series against the Fightins. The Fightins swept the series.

So which data set, both more recent than last year's playoffs, would you like to use to predict how the Fightins will do in the upcoming MLB playoffs? And why would either of these data sets be of any value in trying to predict how the Fightins do in the 2025 playoffs?

MLB baseball teams play 162 games in a season. They play 9 innings in any particular game. What happens in a particular inning in any game, or in a particular game during the season, only occasionally has a huge impact on that game, or in how a team does during a season, respectively. And then teams get to the playoffs, and what they've done against another team during the season, or what they did against a particular team in a prior year's playoff, is only marginally predictive of how a team will do in the playoff series. Which teams are hot, which teams have key injuries, which teams had a bye or didn't have a bye, are generally far more predictive of how a playoff series will go than anything that happened between teams during the season, or in past playoffs. And just when you think you've got it figured out in terms of predicting a playoff outcome in MLB, then a series goes the opposite of how all the trends are pointing. That's the nature of baseball, and why fans should never get too high after a successful inning, season, or playoff series, or too low after a poor inning, underperforming season, or a loss or two in a playoff series. Each game is unique, each series is unique, and every team is different from prior teams that played under the same name. That, in a nutshell, is MLB baseball, and why it's so enjoyable to watch.



 

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^^ the attitude of a fan that would have bailed tonight, after the top of the 1st inning ^^ :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
As I have told before, a friend of mine wanted Charlie Manual fired in 2007. I frequently remind him of that and tell him he does get to celebrate the 2008 World Series win.

Full disclosure. He also wants Franklin fired on a weekly basis. Oh, the angst of Philly fans.
 

Grant Green

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As I have told before, a friend of mine wanted Charlie Manual fired in 2007. I frequently remind him of that and tell him he does get to celebrate the 2008 World Series win.

Full disclosure. He also wants Franklin fired on a weekly basis. Oh, the angst of Philly fans.
He was definitely not alone. There was lots of Charlie hate until he won. Kind of like Howie Roseman. Winning cures everything.

Funny thing about baseball. That 2008 team had the 5th best record in MLB (so definitely not the best team). They had the fewest wins of any of the Phils teams from 2008-2011 and were the only one to win it all. All about getting hot in the playoffs.
 

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He was definitely not alone. There was lots of Charlie hate until he won. Kind of like Howie Roseman. Winning cures everything.

Funny thing about baseball. That 2008 team had the 5th best record in MLB (so definitely not the best team). They had the fewest wins of any of the Phils teams from 2008-2011 and were the only one to win it all. All about getting hot in the playoffs.
Yes. I remember Philly sports talk radio being a sh^tshow. Everyone thought old Charlie was in over his head at his age and they wanted him gone. The same group wanted Doug Pedersen fired less than six games into his tenure as the Eagles HC. Then he won them their first Super Bowl and he didn’t last long anyway.
 

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last month, the Fightins traveled to NYC for a 3-game series against the NY Mets. They were swept by the Mets.

This week, the Mets traveled to Philadelphia for a 4-game series against the Fightins. The Fightins swept the series.

So which data set, both more recent than last year's playoffs, would you like to use to predict how the Fightins will do in the upcoming MLB playoffs? And why would either of these data sets be of any value in trying to predict how the Fightins do in the 2025 playoffs?

MLB baseball teams play 162 games in a season. They play 9 innings in any particular game. What happens in a particular inning in any game, or in a particular game during the season, only occasionally has a huge impact on that game, or in how a team does during a season, respectively. And then teams get to the playoffs, and what they've done against another team during the season, or what they did against a particular team in a prior year's playoff, is only marginally predictive of how a team will do in the playoff series. Which teams are hot, which teams have key injuries, which teams had a bye or didn't have a bye, are generally far more predictive of how a playoff series will go than anything that happened between teams during the season, or in past playoffs. And just when you think you've got it figured out in terms of predicting a playoff outcome in MLB, then a series goes the opposite of how all the trends are pointing. That's the nature of baseball, and why fans should never get too high after a successful inning, season, or playoff series, or too low after a poor inning, underperforming season, or a loss or two in a playoff series. Each game is unique, each series is unique, and every team is different from prior teams that played under the same name. That, in a nutshell, is MLB baseball, and why it's so enjoyable to watch.
This team is playing on a different level post-trade deadline. The run production is more consistent and coming from 1) different players across the lineup and 2) seems less reliant on big HRs in general.

I’m sure Grant has a data point or three on that. I’m more optimistic about their postseason chances than I was 6 weeks ago for that reason.
 

nittanyfan333

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I was chuckling the entire bottom of the ninth because the Mets had absolutely nothing for Duran. There have been a couple games in which the other team has gotten to him but dang, when he's on there's no answer for him. Hats off to Luzardo for shaking off the first inning and becoming a beast. Fun game to watch.

I'm telling you, the biggest difference last year to this year was the emotion in the staff. Think about it, last year were Ranger, Nola and Wheels. all three are stoic as heck. This year, Sanchez, Luzardo, Duran.... they're pitching with emotion. Last night was a perfect example. Luzardo gets tagged early, but he stays within himself, settles in, and the emotion builds over the game and carries him to the 8th. LOVE seeing ending an inning with an emotional yell. that was a big-boy start for Jesus. Dont' get me wrong, the daycare crimes last year were cute, but this year it feels like they've grown up. And everyone is getting hot at the right time. and not just long ball, but fundamental small-ball baseball when they need it. talking hitting behind the runners, staying within your swing (Talking about you, Casty....), making contact....

this team is crazy dangerous right now...
 
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played baseball. Different teams, different situations, different ...

last month, the Fightins traveled to NYC for a 3-game series against the NY Mets. They were swept by the Mets.

This week, the Mets traveled to Philadelphia for a 4-game series against the Fightins. The Fightins swept the series.

So which data set, both more recent than last year's playoffs, would you like to use to predict how the Fightins will do in the upcoming MLB playoffs? And why would either of these data sets be of any value in trying to predict how the Fightins do in the 2025 playoffs?

MLB baseball teams play 162 games in a season. They play 9 innings in any particular game. What happens in a particular inning in any game, or in a particular game during the season, only occasionally has a huge impact on that game, or in how a team does during a season, respectively. And then teams get to the playoffs, and what they've done against another team during the season, or what they did against a particular team in a prior year's playoff, is only marginally predictive of how a team will do in the playoff series. Which teams are hot, which teams have key injuries, which teams had a bye or didn't have a bye, are generally far more predictive of how a playoff series will go than anything that happened between teams during the season, or in past playoffs. And just when you think you've got it figured out in terms of predicting a playoff outcome in MLB, then a series goes the opposite of how all the trends are pointing. That's the nature of baseball, and why fans should never get too high after a successful inning, season, or playoff series, or too low after a poor inning, underperforming season, or a loss or two in a playoff series. Each game is unique, each series is unique, and every team is different from prior teams that played under the same name. That, in a nutshell, is MLB baseball, and why it's so enjoyable to watch.
Do you think the Phillies are going to win the national?
Do you think the Phillies are going to win the World Series?
 

Tom McAndrew

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Do you think the Phillies are going to win the national?

I have no idea. The Phillies, Brewers, and Dodgers seem to be the top teams in the NL. In their last 10 games, the Fightins have gone 8-2, the Brewers have gone 4-6, and the Dodgers have gone 5-5. And that tells us nothing about how the teams will do in the playoffs. There are 15 games left in the season (for most teams; not all). The Brewers are up by 2 games in the overall race, while the Fightins are up 4 1/2 games on the Dodgers. So the Fightins could still overtake the Brewers, or could be overtaken by the Dodgers. The #1 seed seems to have the advantage, as if things go to chalk, then the #2 and the #3 teams will play in the 2nd round of the NL playoffs, though the #2 seed will avoid the wild-card round. The next 9 games for the Fightins are pretty tough -- they host the Royals for 3, then head to L.A. to face the Dodgers for 3, and then head to AZ to face the Diamondbacks for 3.

And yet, as my point was in my reply to you, what happened in the regular season, or in past year's playoffs, is not all that important in the playoffs.

You could make a strong case for any of the Fightins, the Brewers, or the Dodgers to win the NL. I think it will be one of them that win it, but I haven't a clue as to which one it will be.

Do you think the Phillies are going to win the World Series?

That's even more difficult to predict than who will win the NL. The Fightins have 87 wins, and the Brewers have 89. The top teams in the AL, and their wins, are Toronto (84), Detroit (84), Yankees (81), Red Sox (81), Houston (79), Seattle (79). And again, the regular season only gives you a hint of what might happen -- it's hardly definitive with regards to the playoffs.

I like what David Murphy said in his column today in the Philadelphia Inquirer:

"There is no such thing as The Team to Beat in the major league playoffs. The Phillies have seen both sides of that coin. They were that team in 2010 and 2011. They beat that team in 2023.

Come October, there are only hot teams, hotter teams, and everybody else. Regular-season records have little correlation with which teams fall into which categories. It helps to be hot in September, except for when it doesn’t.

The Phillies are hot, and they also happen to be within striking distance of entering this year’s postseason with the best record in the National League."
 
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