2026 B1G Tourney Session IV Thread

Anon1683312534

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AJ had that match won. He is absolutely brutal on top. He just got a bit sloppy at the end. Taye wrestled right down the road from me at Campbell University. Hell of a match.
AJ was thinking about his victory splits!

Posted this on HR too but we have a crisis in officiating right now. They need to fire them all and start over. It’s that bad. They are beyond saving.
It's people like you that cause officials too hang it up and some people who think about officiating to decide not too.
 

Matter7172

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I was shocked to see how poor attendance was throughout the 2 days. Lots of empty seats, especially for the finals. I get States finals are Saturday, but I expected a pretty full house for tonight.
I believe there were a few factors. One, there was probably a lot of speculative buying of tickets by people who never planned to attend (i.e. bought for resale). Two, there were probably a lot of other schools' fans who didn't buy the tickets allocated to them. I saw quite a few PSU shirts in the Iowa section, for example. Three, a lot of those schools' fans were not in their seats a lot of the time. During the semis, the Iowa section was literally empty except for PSU fans.
 

Matter7172

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On the Davino freshman of the year award, my family was arguing the Davino got the revenge win over the undefeated Blaze and 133 is the toughest weight class. First, I believe 157 was a tougher road for Duke than 133 was for Davino and I believe 157 in the B1G is probably stronger than 133 is this year. Second, a revenge win over the reigning national champ by major decision is better than a ride out win over a true freshman. So I think it's safe to say it was an anti-PSU bias.

On Duke: there was a stretch of matches where he didn't look himself to me, including the Nebraska match. I was wondering if he was significantly dinged up. During his post-match interview, he referred to being better physically now.
 
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I believe there were a few factors. One, there was probably a lot of speculative buying of tickets by people who never planned to attend (i.e. bought for resale). Two, there were probably a lot of other schools' fans who didn't buy the tickets allocated to them. I saw quite a few PSU shirts in the Iowa section, for example. Three, a lot of those schools' fans were not in their seats a lot of the time. During the semis, the Iowa section was literally empty except for PSU fans.
Probably 100% sold but fans whose son's were not wrestling went home to save $$$$/ day expenses. Most of these kids come from working class families, ex. P J Duke's family reminded me of the glory days of HS wrestling in the 1950s and 60s at WAHS. My cousins wrestled 3 years but their parents never saw them. They both worked.
 

paleryder

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I’ll gladly take the other side here. Tom doesn’t need to show grace to someone who twice insulted him and then said he would be a coward for reacting accordingly.
100% agree. The way it see it when an opposing fan comes here they're here as a guest. Same thing holds true when our fans go to opposing boards. Up until yesterday, JS was a respectful guest each time he visited. If he would have voiced his opinion one time and let it go that would have been fine. The fact that he doubled and tripled down AND went back to his own board and bragged about it certainly warranted the ban hammer.
 
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It was a Hail Mary in the first match in thr sense that it was the only possible way he could win the match at that point and it required everything to go right in that exact moment including an elite opponent allowing for the opening. I think, as we’ve seen in both matches, that scenario favors Davino and it should be one Marcus takes steps to avoid by changing his approach.

Yep, Devino appears to be the better mat wrestler (not by a lot, it isn't like Devino rode Blaze for any significant amount of time during the match, but Marcus cannot ride Devino at all) - Marcus needs to avoid letting the match be determined by silly TBs.
 

ClarkstonMark

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I didn't see Manning during McDanel's bout with Josh. Perhaps he had to step away to get a hold on his emotions.
there are only 2 coaches on the mat at a time in these tournaments. Just like you don't see Cael for every match - no different for Manning - you can be sure that who will be matside for the finals was not a last second decision - it was planned for each wrestler.
 
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RoarLions1

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Official told CPyles the clock was at .9 seconds when Rocco first hit the mat, then by the time he settled in, time had expired.
Christian said .009 seconds, pretty sure. Honestly didn't know they had time beyond hundredths of a second!

Start at 11:50, it is within 15-20 seconds after.

 

PAgeologist

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He's no more reluctant to shoot on Davino than on Ayala.

Blaze is primarily a counter wrestler. The best guys only give you so many counter opportunities. See also: Rocco Welsh.
After this match, Blaze better rethink his strategy against Davino. He hasn't been any closer to a TD against Davino than I would be. Its pretty apparent that Davino neutralizes any counters and Blaze cant ride him.

Or, as much as I hate to say it, Davino is just better right now.
 

Mstan85

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Official told CPyles the clock was at .9 seconds when Rocco first hit the mat, then by the time he settled in, time had expired.
I haven't seen any replays yet, so I'm not sure what they show, or what feeds they had.

That said I was in the first row of the upper level, dead center of the mat. Looking forward I could see the main scoreboard, the matside scoreboard and mat almost at the same time. For those not there, the main scoreboard had what I was told was the big ten network feed. I noticed fairly early in the day that the scoreboard clock (btn feed) was often a second or two behind the actual time on the matside and that you would often hear a whistle blow when the scoreboard said one or two seconds were left.
 

Aardvark86

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Official told CPyles the clock was at .9 seconds when Rocco first hit the mat, then by the time he settled in, time had expired.
In the video, he actually says “point zero zero nine”. Personally, I’m a little skeptical whether they have timing to the thousandth of a second, so my assumption is he meant nine hundredths.

but whether .9, .09, or .009, a technical question: does the relevant “clock” start at mat impact or from when he had quasi control from behind on his feet?

btw, I agree that the hand on mat issue is ultimately a close judgement call (and the repeated nature of it made it seem exceptionally close), but the concluding sequence was a separate and distinct close call (but just by virtue of time)
 
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ClarkstonMark

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After this match, Blaze better rethink his strategy against Davino. He hasn't been any closer to a TD against Davino than I would be. Its pretty apparent that Davino neutralizes any counters and Blaze cant ride him.

Or, as much as I hate to say it, Davino is just better right now.
on the other hand, the only guy who had a more than 1 point score in their matches was Blaze ... so the gap is razor thin and I disagree with any sentiment that one or the other is just better now (both matches went 10 minutes for crying out loud).
 

randyl

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iirc ... the one time Davino beat Blaze in folkstyle, it was also a TBs decision; so thats 2 out of 3 in TBs for Davino.
Imo Blaze is capable of getting to Davino's leg just as the reverse; he just needs to quit waiting for the perfect time, and quit waiting for his preferred spin-around.

Still ... not much air between them.
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NittanyChris

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He was a bit more conservative with Ayala this weekend, but in their first match he seemed more aggressive.

It will be very interesting to see the adjustments Marcus makes the next time he faces Davino.
 

Dogwelder

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.. Blaze better rethink his strategy against Davino. .. as much as I hate to say it, Davino is just better right now.
Remember when Penn State-affiliated wrestlers suddenly had an unstoppable move or position against one guy for at least one match? Taylor v Burroughs. Cenzo v Marinelli. RBY v NoMas.

I hope the mad scientists come up with one custom move for Blaze v Davino, and another preemptively for Blaze v Jax.
 
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Aardvark86

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IMO closer to Levi 2.0 -- more of a physical beatdown style to go with the high-level technique.
It was fascinating to me watching Barr this season. Often you see guys get to a leg and end up on bottom, and things would sort of stalemate out. But in his case, he was like a dog on a freakin bone and just kept pushing the position til he'd get something.
 

PAgeologist

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on the other hand, the only guy who had a more than 1 point score in their matches was Blaze ... so the gap is razor thin and I disagree with any sentiment that one or the other is just better now (both matches went 10 minutes for crying out loud).
I agree it is razor thin between the 2 of them. Right now that margin favors Davino. I also dont doubt that Cael and crew will have a game plan to flip that result in 2 weeks.

In those 20 minutes they wrestled this season, Marcus didnt sniff a TD, while Davino had several good chances in both. Marcus is learning the valuable lesson of... if you wait for the perfect shot, you'll likely lose.
 

El_Jefe

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I have now seen 0.9, 0.09, and 0.009. Anyone for 0.0009?