Spot dogs were a very dangerous thing. Also remember a buddy drinking a bottle of Tabasco on a dare. He regretted that.Curious how many of you old timers from the Harrisburg area remember The Spot in the downtown square?
Spot dogs were a very dangerous thing. Also remember a buddy drinking a bottle of Tabasco on a dare. He regretted that.Curious how many of you old timers from the Harrisburg area remember The Spot in the downtown square?
The guy would put the rolls up his arm. It was sad to see it close.Curious how many of you old timers from the Harrisburg area remember The Spot in the downtown square?
If your in the area check out the Jackson House in Harrisburg. Really cool little place with good burgers & subs.Yeah I remember their foot long dogs and their subs. Makes me a little hungry thinking about them.
Every excuse I’ve heard for Duke just has me howling in laughter.So did the Vega-Mendez takedown call. Mendez still had both arms around Vega's leg, where both of Duke's legs were free.
Even if they apologize and owned the mistake (they won’t but), what’s it matter in the end?If you watched on ESPN, you would have seen that Cody was super POd and saying some very angry things to someone. If there’s any post season official review board, you can bet that this one is going to get some serious attention. What’s worse is that we saw two other very similar situations in the finals where the takedown was awarded. Someone better have a good explanation.
Exactly. I mean it’s not like either Angel or the guy that looks like miles finch have been relegated …Even if they apologize and owned the mistake (they won’t but), what’s it matter in the end?
As many already know Oklahoma State is not playing by the Rules. There’s reasons why Gilman and RBY left and came back to PSU. That’s why Cael said our program can sleep well at night when the wind blows. Thought that was a good way of putting it lolCurious if this is just a feeling or there's some smoke?
Duke didn't have a takedown, by the same people who think this was an interception.Every excuse I’ve heard for Duke just has me howling in laughter.
“He needed to hook the leg”
Buddy, he stopped because they blew a whistle, didn’t have a chance.
“He was out front on the cradle”
Buddy, he had him on a hip for 2 seconds and was closer to taking him to his back for 1 more second than anything.
“Officials didn’t see a takedown”
Buddy, for once in our lifetimes, the mat official actually got it right.
Sport is closest to gymnastics and cheer as it is to anything. Perform a rep, pass judgement of it on to a bunch of subjective experts that can’t get on the same page to see how much it’s worth.
Just go to freestyle takedown rules and move on.
Where have i heard this before, oh that's rite it was on the Iowa boards about PSU. Who already knows? And what don't the rest of us know?As many already know Oklahoma State is not playing by the Rules. There’s reasons why Gilman and RBY left and came back to PSU. That’s why Cael said our program can sleep well at night when the wind blows. Thought that was a good way of putting it lol
Wait. Bobby Telford was an assistant at psu for a spell?Where have i heard this before, oh that's rite it was on the Iowa boards about PSU. Who already knows? And what don't the rest of us know?
Nobody knows what Spyker knows, including Spyker.Where have i heard this before, oh that's rite it was on the Iowa boards about PSU. Who already knows? And what don't the rest of us know?
It won’t do anything to help Duke, but it’s possible someone might introduce a rule change to prevent a reoccurrence. Don’t forget that the TD criteria has been changed twice in the last 10 - 12 years because of wrestlers getting into controversial positions.Even if they apologize and owned the mistake (they won’t but), what’s it matter in the end?
You'll have to see corby on that one lolWhere have i heard this before, oh that's rite it was on the Iowa boards about PSU. Who already knows? And what don't the rest of us know?
Brings back memories! Yrs ago headed to then named Western Reserve but 10 days prior to start of my Freshman year PSU offered me an athletic schoarship. Saved me money, peace of mind and almost too much fun!Funny story. I took my daughter to visit Case Western, which has a good pre-med program. It would be a potential safety school for her. When we arrived and looked around, including the campus, she turned to me before our official visit started and said, "Dad, can we go? I don't like this town." I rebooked flights, and we were gone. LOL.
Probably a better 184 but took one for the teamWas morgan mc a 197 pounder i forget
The Oliver/Stieber non-TD change is the one that stands out the most.It won’t do anything to help Duke, but it’s possible someone might introduce a rule change to prevent a reoccurrence. Don’t forget that the TD criteria has been changed twice in the last 10 - 12 years because of wrestlers getting into controversial positions.
Those great local "coney" aka "Texas Weiner" joints are going away. I miss Pete's in Bethlehem.It’s been several years ago since I was there with him. I’ll ask him to find out.
Same for one of the the two Coney spots in Scranton. Coney Island Lunch. Health dept made him change. Lol. It is/was closed but is supposed to reopen after remodeling.The guy would put the rolls up his arm. It was sad to see it close.
Sounds like that isn’t the case. He’s from NC. Moved to Bishop McCruit
Just crazy situation withPJ. Funny he gets the pin award and was about to do it again in that absurd loss.I guess it just shows how spoiled we (I) are/am that I feel oddly disappointed with "only" 4 national champions. I really think it's still a hangover from the absolute travesty committed against PJ Duke. You'll never convince me he wasn't going to be our next 4 timer. As far as stalling goes, they have to address the finger grabbing again next year. That was the main tactic opponents used against PSU wrestlers, especially at the national tournament.
I do. Cruise “the circuit” and hang out at the Spot. Good times!Curious how many of you old timers from the Harrisburg area remember The Spot in the downtown square?
Yep. He moved up here to be with his girlfriend. Just kidding. I believe his dad made the move to PA due to the state's level of competition.He moved here in 7th grade. I remember the video of him driving the moving van up here from NC.
Some things never get old, just like Rutgers and elite in the same sentence.Where have we seen that look before?
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Exactly. I mean it’s not like either Angel or the guy that looks like miles finch have been relegated …
It won’t do anything to help Duke, but it’s possible someone might introduce a rule change to prevent a reoccurrence. Don’t forget that the TD criteria has been changed twice in the last 10 - 12 years because of wrestlers getting into controversial positions.
Not wrong and I understand what you mean. Might get a change on interpretation, but I don’t even think interpretation is the issue here.It won’t do anything to help Duke, but it’s possible someone might introduce a rule change to prevent a reoccurrence. Don’t forget that the TD criteria has been changed twice in the last 10 - 12 years because of wrestlers getting into controversial positions.
And Beau Bartlett's wife, Syd, felt the need to reply to Cael's comments:
Whay was said, ot got deleted before I saw it.
She said that Cael shouldn't have said anything, insinuating he lied.Whay was said, ot got deleted before I saw it.
One final thought regarding the call reversal in PJ's semi. I would love to see a rule change that in SV, once the referee believes a TD has been achieved, they should hold up three fingers and hold it (just like they do with NF) until the position plays itself out. Then award the points and let any challenges occur at that point.Not wrong and I understand what you mean. Might get a change on interpretation, but I don’t even think interpretation is the issue here.
I am looking at it from a perspective of the rule is fine. Cael didn’t lament a bad rule, he lamented human error (calling it a “blown call”). I’m not sure how you fix that in this case when the mat official actually got it right and gets overturned by the back office.
Maybe a clearer interpretation of the cradle position but now we’re introducing a new way for human error to impact what we see. This wasn’t Oliver/Stieber where we can sit and say ok, how much weight is on his hands, could the defensive guy move, etc. Maybe let the action go on in OT, but I also understand why you stop it at a TD. It’s sudden victory and what happens when I guy gets taken down and steps over on a turn and pins the original guy with the takedown?
Again, just go X points of contact with the mat and the positions an O guy can be in and just move on. Humans have broken college wrestling and it’s not interesting. I turned if off Friday after 157. Just seemed to waste time, like watching football and touchdowns no longer being touchdowns.
100% with you.One final thought regarding the call reversal in PJ's semi. I would love to see a rule change that in SV, once the referee believes a TD has been achieved, they should hold up three fingers and hold it (just like they do with NF) until the position plays itself out. Then award the points and let any challenges occur at that point.
Tell me this is AI
Anytime Syd sees anything PSU:She said that Cael shouldn't have said anything, insinuating he lied.
What about his secretary?Nobody knows what Spyker knows, including Spyker.
Damn. Hillbilly nationButt hurt - NINE …. count em 9 times! Lashing out in his last college match. Guys has to live with himself forever. Sad & embarrassing end for a guy who mighta won 1 or 2 in the absence of MM.
I live not too far from VT, but, am a long time PSU season tix holder. Down here in the hillbilly nation there is great excitement. VT fans who never followed wrestling are reading and talking about wrestling at levels I’ve never seen. They are growing the sport! Now … I just have to hope that Cael inks another home and home series with VT. Such a dual would have 3-4 outstanding matchups.
What happens when they mandate top ten teams go to national duals and Iowa is matched up against VT?I live not too far from VT, but, am a long time PSU season tix holder. Down here in the hillbilly nation there is great excitement. VT fans who never followed wrestling are reading and talking about wrestling at levels I’ve never seen. They are growing the sport! Now … I just have to hope that Cael inks another home and home series with VT. Such a dual would have 3-4 outstanding matchups.
When the guys voted to change that call, they should put their name and address, as well as their email and cell # on the bottom of the screen. I'd bet they'd be better about getting the call correct then.One final thought regarding the call reversal in PJ's semi. I would love to see a rule change that in SV, once the referee believes a TD has been achieved, they should hold up three fingers and hold it (just like they do with NF) until the position plays itself out. Then award the points and let any challenges occur at that point.
You remember! Up 2nd Street and down Front Street. My friend and I were doing that circuit in his 440 Roadrunner when we pulled up along side a convertible with the two nice looking blondes. I crouched in the passenger door window and jumped across and landed in their back seat. They loved it!I do. Cruise “the circuit” and hang out at the Spot. Good times!
100% with you.
I think in this case, as the 3 would have been found to be wrong when it was called, not sure it would have mattered.
Would have gone back to the point of action when the takedown was overruled.
Might be wrong on that.
He was very well-spoken and is obviously mature beyond his years. That homerish Oklahoma State question was cringe though.I love this kid. He owns his losses and is so grounded by his family that you have to root for him. I am sooo glad he is at PSU. It did make me laugh that the only times he could remember having to wrestle back for 3rd were in World Championships. Now that is first-world problems right here.
If he loses another college match, I will be surprised.