I am not much of a Mendez fan but you certainly have to like how he competes... He's bullied everyone at his weight this year and his confidence got him... I think he wins this match 8 out of 10 times.Mendez died by the same sword he lived by: He has to be the warrior who always attacked and couldn't possibly win by being smart. All he needed to do was get to ride outs and he wins EASILY
I love cstroke..
I'm not trying to argue but my understanding is if he could get the pin meaning more points he would allow the match to continue. That's the travesty here the ref should have let pj continue for a pin unless there was significant amount of time that would dictate it wasn't happening. 2 more seconds it could have been a pin. Like i said thats just my interpretation not saying you sre wrongYou only let a match go in OT when they're in near fall criteria. Having a cradle looked up once the hip hits you award the points and stop the action.
They didn't stop it for a challenge. What you posted doesn't apply to this situation it was stopped because the ref called a takedown
Why did the NCAA decide to allow finger grabbing? The sport is looking for more action, and they gave wrestlers another stalling tool.![]()
Speaking of more action, I like the pushout rule. It would have to be applied only when wrestlers are in neutral, though. Not when action begins from the referee's position.
No transfer portal as we know it today, but getting Andrew Long from Iowa State (suspended) made a huge difference in finishing first v second to Cornell.No transfer portal back in 2010 either. Easier these days to fill in the holes.
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In an OT situation it is first points scored wins. If a TD is secured without exposure and swipes being immediately secured then the match is over. If as PJ broke Robideau to his hip and in a single fluid motion taken him to his back, the winner would have been determined but action would have been allowed to continue to see if he could secure a fall. The instant the ref determined there was indeed a takedown but there was any pause in the continuation to Robideau's back the match was over. There is no need to continue the action.What is the near fall criteria when someone is caught in a cradle? I thought that Duke was getting darned close for swipes, as a matter of fact I will bet my golf clubs that had the match been allowed to continue Duke would have gotten back points within a matter of seconds. What if the team race was extremely close and the referee stopped Duke from adding to his team points? What if Duke's TD resulted in a tech fall, nearly every darned match that I have seen the referee doesn't stop the match for the tech fall he lets it go on when a near fall is possible, to give the wrestler the opportunity for one more point, a pin.
I say Duke met near fall criteria is my argument, just because the referee never looked for back points doesn't mean near fall criteria wasn't met.
So was this just a rumor floating around the arena that the final review of the TD was 4-3?
Name for me one TD that involves interlocking your fingers with your opponents? Clearly, doing so is stalling and it should be treated as such.when someone interlaces your fingers it is hard to wrestle. another form of stalling.
THE HAND TOSS LOLName for me one TD that involves interlocking your fingers with your opponents? Clearly, doing so is stalling and it should be treated as such.
Someone mentioned here is was a 4-3 vote by the review officials to overturn the call. Are there really 7 officials reviewing every challenged call? Can anyone confirm that? If that is true, it's even more egregious that 4 officials didn't see the cradle as a toakedown!In an OT situation it is first points scored wins. If a TD is secured without exposure and swipes being immediately secured then the match is over. If as PJ broke Robideau to his hip and in a single fluid motion taken him to his back, the winner would have been determined but action would have been allowed to continue to see if he could secure a fall. The instant the ref determined there was indeed a takedown but there was any pause in the continuation to Robideau's back the match was over. There is no need to continue the action.
There is only a singular idiot who was wrong in this situation, the review official. Basically what he did was say, I cannot see anything technically wrong with the mat official's call but my opinion is he should have granted a longer reaction time. The mat officials call from an objective measurement was correct and complete. The review official interjected his subjective opinion into the match which is not the role of the review official.
Snyder is 6" shorter than Coon.And some people think Josh might go 285.
Snyder is unique with his freakish build. He's more Mr. Incredible in build than Josh. Photos can be deceptive, but I was surprised how small Josh looked standing next to Trumble.Snyder is 6" shorter than Coon.
Good question. I don't know. I agree with you, 4 officials feeling it appropriate to interject their subjective opinion into the discussion is egregious. They are there to review a situation to see is a black and white situation was an appropriate call or not.Someone mentioned here is was a 4-3 vote by the review officials to overturn the call. Are there really 7 officials reviewing every challenged call? Can anyone confirm that? If that is true, it's even more egregious that 4 officials didn't see the cradle as a toakedown!
Anyone have a link that shows the point totals for each individual?
pennstatewrestlingclub.org
Yeah I don’t see that at all.And some people think Josh might go 285.
The match stops in OT once the takedown occurs unless he takedown puts the guy on his back in NF criteria 45 degrees.What is the near fall criteria when someone is caught in a cradle? I thought that Duke was getting darned close for swipes, as a matter of fact I will bet my golf clubs that had the match been allowed to continue Duke would have gotten back points within a matter of seconds. What if the team race was extremely close and the referee stopped Duke from adding to his team points? What if Duke's TD resulted in a tech fall, nearly every darned match that I have seen the referee doesn't stop the match for the tech fall he lets it go on when a near fall is possible, to give the wrestler the opportunity for one more point, a pin.
I say Duke met near fall criteria is my argument, just because the referee never looked for back points doesn't mean near fall criteria wasn't met.
So was this just a rumor floating around the arena that the final review of the TD was 4-3?
The match ends when the takedown is awarded and that happened before NF criteria was establishedI'm not trying to argue but my understanding is if he could get the pin meaning more points he would allow the match to continue. That's the travesty here the ref should have let pj continue for a pin unless there was significant amount of time that would dictate it wasn't happening. 2 more seconds it could have been a pin. Like i said thats just my interpretation not saying you sre wrong
Because OSU had a near perfect tournament. Pretty much nobody outside of Stillwater expected Vega and Robideaux to win it all or Merrill to make the finals. I was guilty of the same thought process 24hrs after the finals. Once the dust clears and people start looking logically at the math, the OSU and NCAA championship talk will die down...at least until next fall.someone please answer this question,PSU just broke the scoring record again and won by 50 points why is everyone talking about OK ST like they just won the tourney?what a joke!!
near perfect??how many champs did they have compared to PSU plus winning as a fresh doesn't mean they will ever win again!no guarantees in wrestling!Because OSU had a near perfect tournament. Pretty much nobody outside of Stillwater expected Vega and Robideaux to win it all or Merrill to make the finals. Once the dust clears and people start looking logically at the math, the OSU and NCAA championship talk will die down...at least until next fall.
"Near perfect" compared to expectations. Did you have Vega and Robideaux winning it all and Merrill making the final on your bingo card?near perfect??how many champs did they have compared to PSU plus winning as a fresh doesn't mean they will ever win again!no guarantees in wrestling!
someone please answer this question,PSU just broke the scoring record again and won by 50 points why is everyone talking about OK ST like they just won the tourney?what a joke!!
In order for psu to win we have to have a good tournament. For okies to win they need to have a great tournament AND we have to have a bad tournament big difference. My opinion for the next 4 to 5 years is okie state will need us to have a bad tournament in order to win. That brings it down to coaching and I'll take our coaching staff over anybody'sBecause OSU had a near perfect tournament. Pretty much nobody outside of Stillwater expected Vega and Robideaux to win it all or Merrill to make the finals. I was guilty of the same thought process 24hrs after the finals. Once the dust clears and people start looking logically at the math, the OSU and NCAA championship talk will die down...at least until next fall.
Snyder hates Penn State, so you can be sure it wasn't cordial.The end of Haines' finals match ended pretty close to the Nebraska bench. And it appeared that Snider was saying something to Haines, as Levi was trying to shake Minto's hand. Was that noticeable on the broadcast? Any idea if it was cordial, or if snyder was acting like Manning's mini me?
But, we're so likeable. I don't get it.Snyder hates Penn State, so you can be sure it wasn't cordial.
I saw Levi’s reaction which was similar to the JLaw gif below - a kind of “sure, whatever” look. My assumption was that the Nebraska bench was yelling at him about stalling at the end (ignoring Minto doing it for 390 seconds of the match). Levi handled it perfectly.The end of Haines' finals match ended pretty close to the Nebraska bench. And it appeared that Snider was saying something to Haines, as Levi was trying to shake Minto's hand. Was that noticeable on the broadcast? Any idea if it was cordial, or if snyder was acting like Manning's mini me?