I can't figure if you're a troll or just a negative person but you never have anything positive to say.
2027 Recruiting Thread
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I can't figure if you're a troll or just a negative person but you never have anything positive to say.
I am positive, we will be mediocre.
How will Campbell improve his Iowa state results? I see two main variables. Coaching or recruiting.
I think most people believe that he will take advantage of having more recruiting resources at PSU. The expectation is that he will keep PSU at a Top 15 level in recruiting while doing a better job of development and gameday coaching than we saw under Franklin.
The recruiting part isn't going to happen overnight because his staff has to develop relationships with the 2027 and 2028 recruits. Expectations for him to have all of these commitments 2 months in are unrealistic. People need to give him time.
Hard to quantify any of this until we see what we have on the field; hell, they still have not had one single practice. Before things start trending more in PSU's favor on the recruiting trail recruits need to see the team play and how successful they are. I suspect that the staff will lean more heavily on the portal until they demonstrate to recruits that they can be successful at PSU. If in September the product looks solid, recruiting will pick up.
Campbell is an exceptional ball coach. What he managed at Iowa State with no NIL is nothing short of miraculous. I am eager to see what he does with more.
I think the King of Hatboro here is either family or a friend of Big Game James. Hatboro is within 12 miles of Langhorne where BGJ grew up. Either way, he has a boner for BGJ that won't quit.
Two things. 1. Campbell and his staff are not recruiting the same players to PSU that they did to ISU. There are surely exceptions but without NIL chances of them signing top flight talent to ISU that was being courted elsewhere with lucrative financial packages is low. 2. Top-flight recruits are not going to jump on offers a year out, especially when money is not yet being discussed.
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You are one of the dipchits that had Big Game James winning a Natty and beating OSU every year. No receivers, soft at LB, inconsistent QB and you pick them to win a natty.
You will be one of the first people calling for MC to be fired after a bad loss.
Lions and bear has it right. Tell me one post that you made that was positive without being the petulant child that you are. How exactly are you related to the Franklins. As I live within 1 minute from where he grew up I was curious as we may know some of the same folks.
Uh, no dipchit. I was in the I will believe it when I see it camp after years of disappointment from BGJ. CMC will get plenty of slack but it won't be as much as your hero BGJ got to go 4-21 versus the top 10 before getting sh!tcanned. How much slack are you giving MC right now, Mr. Positivity?
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Ryan, Is PSU pursuing 2027 QB Israel Abrams? I thought there was an article here when Campbell was hired that PSU would be an instant connection and potential front runner for him because of the relationships the new staff had with him at ISU. However, when you look at his recruiting profiles, none of them list PSU as an offer for him?
On your first point, I agree with you, the recruits that Campbell were pursuing at ISU may not be guys he thinks can compete at the B1G level. However, with the amount of guys he brought with him from ISU (out of necessity, I know), I figured there would be a few that he thinks can be successful at PSU. On the second point, I disagree. Top flight recruits are jumping on offers from schools all over the country, just not PSU for some reason. Many of the top recruits have committed. That’s not to say that there aren’t plenty more to get, but kids are committing way ahead of signing day even in the NIL world.
If they have to wait until September for recruiting to pick up then they are cooked with the 2027 class. That is way, way too late to think they will have a good recruiting class for 2027. Plenty of other new coaches will have recruits committed before playing a game.
BOB and BGJ had more initial recruiting pop with sanctions and post season bans in effect....l m trying to be patient, however too many blue chippers in PSU s backyard are ignoring this staff
I agree. Most new coaching hires see increased recruiting interest and a bump. We have not seen this. It is concerning.
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We were led to believe there was plenty of NIL money for PSU to compete with the big boys? Where is it? Why isn’t it resulting in bringing in recruits?
2025 NIL spending for football was reported as a little over $13 million. Now, it is supposed to be $30 million. That’s a massive increase. I’m pretty sure Kraft referenced the big increase, as well. Is it not valid until the Adidas deal kicks in?
Everyone else increased funding too.
Psu reportedly has $30m. Texas tech lettermen committed that two years ago at one lunch.
Love it when sources have sources.
Let's say PSU has enough money. Is it the best tactic to show your highest bid at the opening of an auction?
I guess not. I guess we should be satisfied with zero recruits until September as someone else mentioned. That seems like it should be a successful timeline.
Sorry, I guess I’m being a little impatient, but it feels like this program could use some momentum. It feels very stagnant right now. I expected for Campbell to have a few recruits committed already. It is a little disappointing.
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Yes. All the players he brought with him he believes can compete. The ones that could not he left where they are. There are highly ranked recruits with previous ties to Campbell that have legit interest in PSU, but pulling the trigger without ever seeing a practice at PSU, how the staff executes a game, or what the compensations structure will be is imprudent. As for the second point. In the 2027 class, MIchigan has not gotten a single commitment since KW took the reins; the two 4* and the two 3* all were before he came on board. LSU has two commitments, both 4* . 1 since Lane took over. Ole Miss has 3 commitments, all committed before PG took over. Kentucky has 3 3* players, only one committed since Stein took the reins. UCLA has 1 3* since Chesney took over. MIchigan State has 2 unrated recruits since Fitz took over. Florida has 1 recruit a 4* since Sumrall took over, Virginia Tech has 1 recruit, a 4* committed before Franklin took over .... So, no, top flight recruits are NOT jumping on offers from schools where the staffs are new. It will take time for the staff to build relationships and for recruits and their parents to feel comfortable that the new staff will do right by them. 2027 was always going to be a portal heavy class. I am looking to 2028 to see what they do.
Even in silly academia, When applying to grad programs and weighing assistantships, teaching versus fellowships, jumping on an early offer is dumb. Weaker candidates will hop on early offers. Stronger candidates wait to see how they can leverage their abilities.
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I never said top recruits were committing to schools with new coaches now. I said top recruits were committing to schools already a year out (the parameters you set in the conversation). You said recruiting will pick up in September. If that’s the case, the 2027 class is a loss, which is hard to fathom with a whole year to get kids on board. I may be too impatient with this process, but you seem to be way too nonchalant about it. The program is stagnant right now. They had a jr day and didn’t really see much momentum out of it. That’s concerning after Campbell said the foundation for a successful program is still recruiting and developing your own players.
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My bad. I am comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges. I am not going to look at Georgia's recruiting and the PSU's recruiting through the same lens. I am nonchalant because I did not have any expectations for high school recruitng for 2027. The staff will need proof of concept before they can be competitive. And yes, I am not concerned, because we had over 1/3 of college football players in the portal this year. So, any shortfall can be made in the portal.
But more generally, there are 30 to 40 5* recruits annually. As of today, only 6 are committed nationally. There are 300 to 330 4* recruits nationally. As of today 70 are committed. And these are juniors in high school.
So, no, I am not concerned. I want Campbell to find the right players for the program he is building, not recruit players because of how they are valued by a recruiting service. But if you want to rend and pull your hair out and think the program is stagnant knock yourself out.
I get what you are saying and I don’t disagree. However, if the 2027 recruiting class is a punt year also, then this could be a multiyear rebuild and it may be a rough ride in the meantime. I think we made several steps forward in coaching and took several steps back in recruiting and roster talent. They are going to have to be more aligned to have the success we all want to see.
Premature. The portal can equalize things quickly. Lane operated with a 40% portal roster at Ole Miss and did well. Not saying Campbell will go that route, but there are different ways to succeed in today's football landscape. He needs the right players, not just talented players.
Agree. But the new HC at PSU said recently that the backbone of the program should still be recruiting and developing. If that’s his view, he has some work to do.
It is his view, but it will take a while to stabilize the program. He apparently will do what is necessary to be competitive out of the gate, but it will take a minute to get the program where he wants it. Then we can assess. But, no, I am not worried about recruiting for 2027
Found this Local TV interview of LB Blake Betton. This kid is going to be a 4* with a lot of options. Right now we're the leader and I hope we can gain his commitment.
Feb 13th Interview with Blake Betton
Feb 13th Interview with Blake Betton
Some interesting RPMs recently in favor for PSU. Seems like Campbell & Co are going to chip away with building relationships in our traditional regional base - but they seem to be tapping into the relationships they had built at ISU. Really strong offer lists on these guys, even the 3*s.
3* LB Betton (MN)
4* DB Telfair (OH)
4* DB Taufoou (CA)
4* LB Alexander (OK)
4* DL Aiden Oneil (NJ)
3* S Galette (NJ)
3* DT Montgomery (PA)
3* LB Betton (MN)
4* DB Telfair (OH)
4* DB Taufoou (CA)
4* LB Alexander (OK)
4* DL Aiden Oneil (NJ)
3* S Galette (NJ)
3* DT Montgomery (PA)
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We may not have any commitments right now but you can read the tea leaves. This staff is building relationships with kids who are PSU quality. These relationships will bear fruit and when it happens I think they'll come in bunches starting this Spring.
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This coach has some heavy lifting to do with development and recruiting. All the best to him.