Yeah! That's right, same with recruits under 4 stars, instead of dragging them in the mud.
No spinning it.
2027 Recruiting Thread
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
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No spinning it.
Nope, not at all. I gave him 12 years. He built and then the year he should have made a run he completely folded like a cheap suit. Either his feelings were hurt because he couldn’t extract more money from the school, the pressure was too much for him, or he came to believe in the national reputation he developed and earned. Whichever of the reasons, he couldn’t be allowed to remain in charge.
You continue to defend every coach in the profession not named Matt Campbell. I’ll continue to watch games with an honest assessment of their abilities. See you at 5 AM for your morning piss posting spree about Franklin in, of all misplaced locations, the 2027 recruiting thread. I’m done with this back and forth with you. You’re disingenuous in your approach.
You guys are all immature bullies. Marshall is a true fan and you're all so rude. Ignoring all of the Franklin stuff and i'm actually a Franklin support, he truly knows football and can articulate that. His opinions are always well thought out and presented and never stated as fact-you all just don't choose to read them. You say Franklin is a fraud? A used car salesman? That he is a bad coach? When you compare every coach to Joe Paterno,
you're gonna have a bad time. THIS ISN'T 1991. I pray to GOD that PSU hits the pinnacles so many here fill confident they will.
But as an ardent lover of PSU football, WHY do I not have the warm and fuzzies about the state of the program?
Can someone tell me why I really should?My heart beats for PSU so I wouldn't go against my gut-my instinct is pretty worried.
Changing gears-I'm so tired of the disrespect to Franklin after all he did for the program. The way some of you communicate and show your true colors is abysmal-you don't come across as thoughtful or eloquent; you come across as immature and for lack of a better world disloyal.
Even Paterno wouldn't have lasted as long as he did with your lofty expectations. You guys who talk down can't acknowledge his positive traits and use zero intellectual language to defend why you have SUCH concerning vitriol to Franklin. You are idealistic if you think Campbell is just gonna walk in here and do any better. The reality is that we kicked a very good coach to the curb for a potentially good coach.
I'm young but i'm not too stupid to remember to dance with the one that brought you. I love Matt Campbell-it's beyond a miracle we got him, because he's about the ONLY candidate that could carry Franklin's jock. Matt Campbell is the man because he's smart, good talent developer, blue collar, preaches honor, and integrity. SO thrilled we have that at PSU still....So the next time you want to give your opinion, you should speak like Matt Campbell or Marshall does for that matter. It's sad and you can say i'm a Franklin supporter all you want-you're ******* right I am. Because I'm a PSU supporter and he gave 100% to the school and that was apparent from day one. James Franklin is a top ten coach and those don't just grow on trees. Lastly, I would defend ANY of you the way I am standing up for Marshall. If someone's speaking in good faith and factually he should not be disparaged. Marshall's probably forgotten more about football than many of you know.
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Immature bullies for backing our HC and recruits , check!
That’s a lot of money for an 88,000 capacity stadium renovation. Northwestern paid over $800 million for their new 35,000 capacity stadium. The price tag for the Beaver Stadium renovation may not be as bad as I thought!
I'm not concerned with PSU's financial risk, but I would like to see them win and I know they do not have the money to spend that some other schools do, and too win they are going to have to be smarter with what they spend, and you don't seemed to understand that.
Just because you are not concerned with PSU financial risk doesn't means the school wont be, and no matter how stupid you think they are because they wont pony up to pay for Kemon Spell and Peter Bourque. I feel confident in saying its not stupidity, its the people at PSU that are concerned about financial risk.
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and the team that signed the 5 star that got hit by a bus will be out a whole lot more money than the team that signed the 2 star that got hit by a bus.
Except that the Beaver Stadium project covers about a third of the stadium.
Florida is paying for huge amounts of deferred maintenance, ada compliance, more premium seats and luxury boxes, and new technology. It’s still largely bleacher style after the upgrade. I think we are getting better bang for our buck, but both projects are ungodly amounts of money.
Last year all you cared about was beating Ohio state. Now your main concerne is risk management.
It would be a lie to say I've ever really cared about beating OSU. I've enjoyed the majority of the PSU/OSU games over the last ten years more than most games PSU has played. Its high level college football, and they have often been really competitive. Its a helluva lot better than watching PSU whack Villanova by 40+. Does it bother me that PSU losses those games.
Yes, for about 2 minutes, then I go back to the real world. I enjoy PSU football, its good entertinament. Would I'd like to see them win at the highest level. Sure and to do that they are going to have to be smart with the money they spend in the current environment. Sorry, you dont understand that.
Does it really matter to me if they win against OSU or anyone else. Not really.
I left it with James and Joe when he proclaimed "the great Joe Paterno" in his news conference at hiring. The banishment of Joe's legacy or memory went (and continues to go) way above the Head Football Coach's paygrade. I can imagine that Joe's shadow is quite a burden (and may still prove to be one to CMC). It clearly enraged BOB. CMC is getting bouquets for engaging the "lettermen." This is wise. If everyone here would suddenly be honest, all the talk about lettermen, culture, game day coaching....is just that. It all comes down to expectations and results on the field. TBD.
I am grateful that I attended a game in what turned out to be Joe's first season. Also, I attended his final bowl game with my family in Tampa. We went to the pep rally that was held (as I recall in a municipal hall of sorts and we sat in the lobby waiting for the festivities.) I remember watching Sue arrive sheparding several of her grandchildren. I felt like I was in the presence of royalty. That spring we spent a few days attending spring ball and catching up with Coach Sarra (who was stricken with Parkinson's Disease and sadly in a wheelchair). I went to breakfast one morning and read and an article in the paper about accusations against Jerry Sandusky. I believe it was the last day of March. None of us in our wildest dreams could have predicted what was about to occur in a few short months.
They removed Joe's Statue on my birthday 7/22/12. The next day I traveled to State College to pay my final respects to Coach Sarra. On the way home I tuned into ESPN and listened to the NCAA sanctions. I felt I had in a sense buried my life long mentor and PSU football on that day. Because of that to me, that simple victory at the Pinstripe Bowl was the most significant PSU win in my lifetime.
It is what it is. Just the way it works in this society today. GREED LIVES and a person's word is only so good until it isn't.
disingenuous? Pretty big word. I'll make one prediction. I'm likely to be one who is here defending Campbell when he actually begins coaching games. While all of you pom pom boys decry his feet of clay.
Society today?
Do you know that in January 1982 Jackie Sherrill shocked the college football world by leaving a championship caliber Pitt Panther team high and dry for more money at Texas A&M ($1.7 million in 1982).
We have always lived in a capitalistic society in which people look out for their best interests. This is not a new phenomenon. In college football, what has changed is the players are now allowed a piece of the pie.
That looks like PI to me went right through the receiver, knock him down to make the play. Great catch but PI. But let's celebrate like we won the Super bowl.
Celebrate like they won the Super Bowl? The kid got up, shared a couple of high fives with his teammates and threw the ball back.
Naa. Telfair is sitting there waiting for the ball. WR is adjusting and backtracks into Telfair as he is going verticle.
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Would someone please direct me to the recruiting talk on the recruiting thread? Thanks in advance.
This is how it goes on PSU message forums across the different sites. It’s how we roll. Every topic typically detours into battles between Franklin and Paterno fans. There is no allowance for those of us that are fans of Paterno, BOB, Franklin and Campbell. Actual recruiting talk becomes early cycle absolute judgments on individual star ratings, which inevitably change every year between now and December, as they already have done so recently for some of our recruits. Some demand we “throw a bag” at a highly rated recruit who just may not fit Campbell’s plan, not understanding the lack of a plan under Franklin lead to his demise and now we are trying to rebuild a roster that lost 70 players from 2025 and will need to again heavily invest in the portal.