2027 Recruiting Thread

[BobPSU92]

He said favored, so you showed your ignorance by stating that Iowa game. PSU was not favored.

They also wouldn’t have been favored against Toledo had they played later in the season, but they were when it was played despite PSU already having been spanked by USC.

Nothing in any of our lifetimes matches that UCLA fiasco.

Campbell: “Hold my latte.”

 

[Nothing Special]

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I can't verify 100% because I don't tune in to the commit extravaganzas, however, Tengwall mentioned on one of his programs that McGee did the same thing with a Texas hat. So while I wouldn't condone any behavior that others could deem "disrespectful," I don't think its worthy of angst. Suffice it to say that it ranks up there with things an older generation may differ with on with younger ones. Perhaps Taylor really wanted to come to PSU but the fact that their offer was lower than not only Nebraska, but Colorado as well, left him wondering just how much the coaching staff really valued him. This is after all a game where "money talks." Perhaps some here have been in a relationship where someone says that they really care about you, but their actions seem to indicate otherwise?
If this is truly about being averse to spending money on "unproven" high school talent, I would suggest:
It doesn't seem to be a deterrent to Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Notre Dame, USC etc. Is this coaching staff smarter than all others in America? Or is it a matter of Kraft lying about "elite" resources?
Secondly, talent in the portal....proven talent....is much, much more expensive than high school commits. In addition, our adversaries will be shopping for the same jewels and driving the price up and up.
To do better than what PSU has done the past 10 years, they need better talent.
I don't like what college football has become. I appreciate the dialogue.

Again, I agree with much of what you say. I realize it's my problem that I don't like the "dissing" of the school not chosen. I don't wish ill on any of the kids who do it. If I had any influence (I don't), I would recommend a kid not do that, but that doesn't make me right.

I don't like where college football is at this point either. Again, I blame the NCAA for allowing to get this far. It reinforces my belief that Mark Emmert was easily the worst lead executive for any sport organization in the history of organized sport. Although, those that follow soccer may argue that FIFA owns that position.

The willingness to pay for potential is certainly a strategy worth considering. It has worked for the schools you mention. I guess the only counterpoint I can come up with at the moment would be that it seems to have failed at Texas A&M, at least in the short run. I don't completely trust Kraft and don't know the existing resources.

I don't know how Campbell will work out. I rooted for Paterno, I rooted for Franklin and I'll root for Campbell. Initially, I hoped for Meyer. I've dropped the facade of college athletics being anything less than a transactional business.

I, too, enjoy the discourse and do not get offended by opinions that differ from my own.

 

[Thorndike2021]

Someone else gets an opportunity. Step up and deliver.

We have no idea (besides gobs of cash) what this young man was promised. I, for one, hope we aren't promising early playing time, etc. to anyone. I don't care if they have 25 stars. What you get is an opportunity to become your best you at one of the top programs, historically, in the country. Come in and earn it...it will mean more in the end to you and everyone else. You want stuff handed to you, go to Nebraska.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Worst showing by a favored PSU team ever.

Yeah. That be broke me. And I was already on the brink after the Oregon loss.

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

Yeah. That be broke me. And I was already on the brink after the Oregon loss.

I just laughed. Before we played our season opener I told my wife there was no way we were the #2 team in the country and I’d believe Franklin could win the big games when he proved it. I bought no tickets for the season because Franklin had burned me one too many times spending to go to big games. I had no clue the meltdown would be as epic as it was, but whatever the opposite of clutch is—that’s what Franklin is.

 

[HarrisburgDave]

I just laughed. Before we played our season opener I told my wife there was no way we were the #2 team in the country and I’d believe Franklin could win the big games when he proved it. I bought no tickets for the season because Franklin had burned me one too many times spending to go to big games. I had no clue the meltdown would be as epic as it was, but whatever the opposite of clutch is—that’s what Franklin is.

I would guess that 80 percent of the fan base has come around to the conclusion that Franklin did less with more than any coach in recent memory. His positive is he recruited well. His obvious negative, shown by his record, is that he was woeful when confronted by a coach with comparable talent on his squad.

That is over now and he has moved on. Will the new man be any better? It was time to make a change and see what will happen.

 

[Marshall2323]

Well, we have enough jackarses on this board now, can you all just leave and come back in Dec to either tell us that you were right and Campbell isn't as good as Fraudlin, or that PSU has a good record because they have an easy schedule.

I didn't mind Franklin, but he kept asking for more, more, more for himself and didn't hold his players responsible. His coaching staff over the years was terrible. Think of all of the Off Coordinators that we had and as a group they were bad. I believe that he still wanted to control the offense, so he micro managed them to the point where they couldn't do anything. He was fired and ahd all of his cronies contact recruits to bad mouth PSU. He has such class!

He is so high on himself that when the shi$ hit the fan early last year, he couldn't control it and tried to blame everyone else. He was set up to have a great season and he BLEW it.

As for the following 4 people. They are Franklin butt kissers, sPitt or Notre Dame losers. My guess is that Franklin has a few of his guys who followed him to VaTech, commenting anytime anyone says anything positive about PSU or negative about him. EGO, EGO, EGO led him to where he is and that is at a non-football school who hasn't been relevant in 30 years.
Marshall
LB99
rigi19041
Bvillebaron
PSUalreadyknow

They will all come on and explain why they are lifelong PSU fans and I am wrong.
In 40 years of following PSU and enjoying the comments on the boards, I have never put anyone on ignore, so congrats guys, you are the first ones to get that distinction.

As for the rest of the readers, I am excited to see what Campbell can do with more resources than Iowa State had but realistic enough to know that it may take a year to get into the local high schools and build a bond. I expect a 10 win season and excited to see what the offseason recruiting and portal can bring.

Recruiting will be fine. If being in the top 5 every year meant national championships, then why hasn't Texas won 10 over the past 25 years. The recruiting services always over rate Texas, N Dame, etc.. so relax and enjoy the ride. If a recruit wants to decommit, then bye! We only want guys who are good teammates and want to be at PSU.

Go PSU.

LOL

 

[Marshall2323]

There is no way Gibson can be satisfied with a 3rd rate program like Rutgers. If he’s good at the college level he will dump Rutgers via the portal and for more NIL money. Repeat, Rutgers is a 3rd rate college football program.

I don't care about Rutgers. Losing Gibson hurts PSU. If the young man is talented enough he'll find his way to the NFL. He doesn't need PSU for that.

 

[Marshall2323]

See, we have big donors, but that money goes to the stadium each time.

We don't have blue chips but we'll have state of the art luxury suites.

 

[Marshall2323]

Aw poor baby. Do you feel better now that you have taken your ball and gone home in the face of people who disagree with you? Head for Mommy’s basement with your binkey and blankey and assume the fetal position until you feel better.

Can't you see 107k alcohol fueled fans chanting "at least you want to be here?"

 

[DaytonRickster]

I don't care about Rutgers. Losing Gibson hurts PSU. If the young man is talented enough he'll find his way to the NFL. He doesn't need PSU for that.

Gibson obviously made a business decision. No reason to be mad. This is recruiting reality. HCMC and staff need to find and sign a comparable or better RB recruit. They need to get it done.

 

[LB99]

Well, we have enough jackarses on this board now, can you all just leave and come back in Dec to either tell us that you were right and Campbell isn't as good as Fraudlin, or that PSU has a good record because they have an easy schedule.

I didn't mind Franklin, but he kept asking for more, more, more for himself and didn't hold his players responsible. His coaching staff over the years was terrible. Think of all of the Off Coordinators that we had and as a group they were bad. I believe that he still wanted to control the offense, so he micro managed them to the point where they couldn't do anything. He was fired and ahd all of his cronies contact recruits to bad mouth PSU. He has such class!

He is so high on himself that when the shi$ hit the fan early last year, he couldn't control it and tried to blame everyone else. He was set up to have a great season and he BLEW it.

As for the following 4 people. They are Franklin butt kissers, sPitt or Notre Dame losers. My guess is that Franklin has a few of his guys who followed him to VaTech, commenting anytime anyone says anything positive about PSU or negative about him. EGO, EGO, EGO led him to where he is and that is at a non-football school who hasn't been relevant in 30 years.
Marshall
LB99
rigi19041
Bvillebaron
PSUalreadyknow

They will all come on and explain why they are lifelong PSU fans and I am wrong.
In 40 years of following PSU and enjoying the comments on the boards, I have never put anyone on ignore, so congrats guys, you are the first ones to get that distinction.

As for the rest of the readers, I am excited to see what Campbell can do with more resources than Iowa State had but realistic enough to know that it may take a year to get into the local high schools and build a bond. I expect a 10 win season and excited to see what the offseason recruiting and portal can bring.

Recruiting will be fine. If being in the top 5 every year meant national championships, then why hasn't Texas won 10 over the past 25 years. The recruiting services always over rate Texas, N Dame, etc.. so relax and enjoy the ride. If a recruit wants to decommit, then bye! We only want guys who are good teammates and want to be at PSU.

Go PSU.

 

[PSUForever]

I just laughed. Before we played our season opener I told my wife there was no way we were the #2 team in the country and I’d believe Franklin could win the big games when he proved it. I bought no tickets for the season because Franklin had burned me one too many times spending to go to big games. I had no clue the meltdown would be as epic as it was, but whatever the opposite of clutch is—that’s what Franklin is.

So glad he is gone. He was a walking and talking big game disappointment just ready to happen.

 

[LB99]

Well, we have enough jackarses on this board now, can you all just leave and come back in Dec to either tell us that you were right and Campbell isn't as good as Fraudlin, or that PSU has a good record because they have an easy schedule.

I didn't mind Franklin, but he kept asking for more, more, more for himself and didn't hold his players responsible. His coaching staff over the years was terrible. Think of all of the Off Coordinators that we had and as a group they were bad. I believe that he still wanted to control the offense, so he micro managed them to the point where they couldn't do anything. He was fired and ahd all of his cronies contact recruits to bad mouth PSU. He has such class!

He is so high on himself that when the shi$ hit the fan early last year, he couldn't control it and tried to blame everyone else. He was set up to have a great season and he BLEW it.

As for the following 4 people. They are Franklin butt kissers, sPitt or Notre Dame losers. My guess is that Franklin has a few of his guys who followed him to VaTech, commenting anytime anyone says anything positive about PSU or negative about him. EGO, EGO, EGO led him to where he is and that is at a non-football school who hasn't been relevant in 30 years.
Marshall
LB99
rigi19041
Bvillebaron
PSUalreadyknow

They will all come on and explain why they are lifelong PSU fans and I am wrong.
In 40 years of following PSU and enjoying the comments on the boards, I have never put anyone on ignore, so congrats guys, you are the first ones to get that distinction.

As for the rest of the readers, I am excited to see what Campbell can do with more resources than Iowa State had but realistic enough to know that it may take a year to get into the local high schools and build a bond. I expect a 10 win season and excited to see what the offseason recruiting and portal can bring.

Recruiting will be fine. If being in the top 5 every year meant national championships, then why hasn't Texas won 10 over the past 25 years. The recruiting services always over rate Texas, N Dame, etc.. so relax and enjoy the ride. If a recruit wants to decommit, then bye! We only want guys who are good teammates and want to be at PSU.

Go PSU.

You’ve got it all figured out. It’s amazing how thin skinned some snowflakes can be when you don’t just drink the kool aid and pretend everything is rainbows and unicorns. How dare anyone have differing opinions. You clearly haven’t followed my posts over the years if you think I’m a troll from another school.

 

[Mongrel]

False. Go back and watch the team from 2000-2004.

Toledo blowout loss.
6-4 loss to Iowa.

The Toledo loss was a bad loss; however, I wouldn't call it a blowout. The offense was terrible, while the defense was just on the field too much. The final score was 24-6. For the record, Toledo was 10-1 that year with the one loss coming to Western Michigan in Kalamazoo. Western Michigan and Toledo tied for the division title and as a result of the head-to-head advantage, Western Michigan received the berth to the MAC championship game where they lost to Marshall. Marshall had one loss that year, 42-0 to Toledo.

 

[rigi19041]

I just laughed. Before we played our season opener I told my wife there was no way we were the #2 team in the country and I’d believe Franklin could win the big games when he proved it. I bought no tickets for the season because Franklin had burned me one too many times spending to go to big games. I had no clue the meltdown would be as epic as it was, but whatever the opposite of clutch is—that’s what Franklin is.

Are you buying tickets to big games now?

 

[rigi19041]

I would guess that 80 percent of the fan base has come around to the conclusion that Franklin did less with more than any coach in recent memory. His positive is he recruited well. His obvious negative, shown by his record, is that he was woeful when confronted by a coach with comparable talent on his squad.

That is over now and he has moved on. Will the new man be any better? It was time to make a change and see what will happen.

Is building a lesser team an improvement?

 

[rigi19041]

So glad he is gone. He was a walking and talking big game disappointment just ready to happen.

Has the team improved?

 

[Phlebitis]

The Toledo loss was a bad loss; however, I wouldn't call it a blowout. The offense was terrible, while the defense was just on the field too much. The final score was 24-6. For the record, Toledo was 10-1 that year with the one loss coming to Western Michigan in Kalamazoo. Western Michigan and Toledo tied for the division title and as a result of the head-to-head advantage, Western Michigan received the berth to the MAC championship game where they lost to Marshall. Marshall had one loss that year, 42-0 to Toledo.

 

[Phlebitis]

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[rigi19041]

The Toledo loss was a bad loss; however, I wouldn't call it a blowout. The offense was terrible, while the defense was just on the field too much. The final score was 24-6. For the record, Toledo was 10-1 that year with the one loss coming to Western Michigan in Kalamazoo. Western Michigan and Toledo tied for the division title and as a result of the head-to-head advantage, Western Michigan received the berth to the MAC championship game where they lost to Marshall. Marshall had one loss that year, 42-0 to Toledo.

If you were against making excuses for ohio state losses why would you make excuses for a toledo loss?

 

[LB99]

Talking Gibson decommitment, Taylor, Penn State “big boy” recruiting (especially PA) Armstrong, etc. A good listen.

 

[Mongrel]

If you were against making excuses for ohio state losses why would you make excuses for a toledo loss?

When was I against making excuses for the tOSU loss?

 

[ChiTownLionPSU]

 

[PSU4U]

This Taylor decision is not a surprise. We have known this for a couple weeks now after he returned from his Nebby visit gushing all over how great his visit was. Then the experts all CBd him to Nebby and it was a foregone conclusion.

This one stings especially since it is a huge position of need and we only have one WR in the '27 class. Campbell, the GM and whomever else need to take criticism on this one. I posted earlier in this thread that this reeks of poor planning and no contingency plan. I don't think they thought Nebby would sweeten the deal and we were caught unprepared or lacking the flexibility financially to match or at least go up in our offer. Could definitely be because it would disrupt the current WR room payroll.
However that is not an excuse as they should have thought through all the different scenarios. Taylor was clearly after the biggest payday so we could have cooled on him much earlier and focused on an 88 or 89 guy.

We have to get a portal WR now and hopefully flip the kid from Salesianum HS in Delaware who is committed to Rutgers.

A comment on the bigger picture of recruiting and specifically Campbell. I think he has done a solid job, not incredibly great but still solid. I have to admit that a fair criticism of him is whether he can reel in some of these elite guys. Our '27 class has a lot of misses with these 4 star guys but you could chalk some of that to time he had to build relationships. But he did have the same amount of time as some other new coaches like the Florida guy so it wasn't like he was hired in March.

'28 is off to a very good start and Armstrong is a huge pickup at the most important position. Now we have to hold on to him. Georgia offered him so they are lurking.

A lot of comments in this thread about how we lose a lot of talent after '26 and with essentially no recruiting for the '26 class we could be in trouble as in a down year. That is certainly possible but Campbell and the GM, etc know this already. It is their job to know this. The question is if they can make significant moves in the portal to shore up the glaring holes. I think we will be pleasantly surprised with our portal haul next winter. The biggest question will be at QB. The staff will make an assessment if Manske or even Falzone has the chops to assume the starter role but even if they are feeling good I think they go after a high end portal QB and then let the QB battle follow. WR as I mentioned will be another big priority.

Comparing PA recruiting to Fla TX or Cali is um is lacking in knowledge or just ignoring some glaring facts.

 

[Alphalion75]

Has the team improved?

How can anyone answer your question when delivery of the new product doesn't occur until September 5th.