If the Republicans can put up someone with even a little personality for the election, it should be a 1984 style result.
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We definitely disagree. Republicans better start doing what the Democrats are doing to win elections. If not they are going to lose again. No more talk of Red Waves. The Commie Globalist are winning and Chicago, Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, Atlanta, and many other cities are moving to the suburbs.
You know Gunny you keep saying that, and in some respects it's true (voter registration, LEGAL ballot harvesting...paying folks to help get out the vote, poll workers etc). But you know as well as I do Democrats don't win anywhere unless they cheat! If you're suggesting we cheat like they do I couldn't disagree more.
I've got personality...and smarts!
There's your Republican candidate for "diversity"
They say what they are doing isn't cheating. They say no reason to even look into it. No one is getting charged. So it's good to go. Do exactly what they are doing. It obviously works.
It works for them because no one prosecutes their criminal behavior. Let some MAGA hat wearing Republican operatives get caught stuffing ballot boxes, or filling out blank ballots & voter registration cards with dead people's names, or paying "mules" to collect absentee ballots, or rigging algorithms on vote tabulation machines?
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It works for them because no one prosecutes their criminal behavior. Let some MAGA hat wearing Republican operatives get caught stuffing ballot boxes or paying "mules" to collect absentee ballots!
You got no real proof they did that. Not just a video. If Republicans did they could take it to court. Did they cheat in places? No doubt. So sitting around complaining about it at this point isn't going to fix it. It just makes people say screw it and stay home. They are winning. Republicans continue to lose ground. They are organized and know how to win. Their opposition isn't and doesn't.
However Democrats do love them some Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals.
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
OK....so let's just see how much better we can cheat than they do and if we get caught we can just use the "everybody does it defense". If the other side is cheating don't complain, cheat harder!
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I agree with a lot of the ideas to fix it I've seen on here. However can't fix until you win. Besides like I said before I didn't see any Democrats getting arrested so they must not be cheating or nobody is watching. So I'm just saying do what do within the law. They are good at.
Oh yes there is proof! Most if not all of it was never adjudicated or thrown out without even being heard! But that's fine.
Nothing Leftists do that we can't do better, faster, even cheaper! We're the entrepreneurs. When they de-platformed us in Social media, we built our own platforms. When they don't cover our issues in legacy media, we develop our own networks or popular podcasts and then dominate talk radio. When they stuff fake ballots, we increase donations to PACS and other voter registration movements like turning point USA.
So if we need to cheat, we'll be better at it and we will do it more efficiently because we're smarter than most media mind numbed Leftists.
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Oh yes there is proof! Most if not all of it was never adjudicated or thrown out without even being heard! But that's fine.
Nothing Leftists can do we can't do better, faster, even cheaper. We're the entrepreneurs. When they de-platformed us in Social media, we built our own platforms. When they don't cover our issues in legacy media, we develop our own networks or popular podcasts and then doninate talk radio. When they stuff fake ballots, we increase donations to PACS and other voter registration movements.
So if we need to cheat, we'll be better at it and we will do it more efficiently because we're smarter than most media mind numbed Leftists.
I didn't say cheat. I said do what they are doing because they are good at it. They said they didn't cheat and there's no reason to look at it. I say ok not going to keep arguing with them about it right now.
They don't have to cheat if somebody like DT keeps up his volatile rhetoric that turns off female voters. Ballot harvesting is the only way to win.
Anything DJT says is volatile. I'm ignoring complaints about him, particularly in light of what his opposition gets away with in incendiary hate filled rhetoric.
Biden doesn't turn off female voters? This excuse is so lame. Maybe women should stop watching the view and Morning Joe. Next thing they will be telling you that DeSantis new abortion bill turns women off.
Trump has more than a little personality, and if he wins the republican primary, it may be be a 1984-type result in the general election. He’ll get my vote in the primary.
No like I said above he might not win either. But let's not pretend your tribe isn't scared of him. If you weren't Biden, Garland, and Democrat DA's wouldn't be interfering with the election.
Your tribe also thinks this will be a winning issue against DeSantis. Some States will like the idea and want it. But it won't go over well in swing States.
They cheat (they can't win unless they do) So we just need to cheat better! If no one's checking, so what, who cares? Since no one's enforcing the rules, why follow them?
Just remember, there are never any consequences to lying and cheating. We have Joe Biden as proof of that! Folks who cheat always get away with it, and always benefit from it, so it makes no sense NOT to cheat.
So go ahead and cheat, lie, steal, matter of fact do whatever it takes to dishonestly win.
After all winning is everything right?
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In the important Senate elections, his people lost except for the guy in Ohio. He won by four points and the rep gov won by 14
They cheat (they can't win unless they do) So we just need to cheat better! If no one's checking, so what, who cares? Since no one's enforcing the rules, why follow them?
Just remember, there are never any consequences to lying and cheating. We have Joe Biden as proof of that! Folks who cheat always get away with it, and always benefit from it, so it makes no sense NOT to cheat.
So go ahead and cheat, lie, steal, mater of fact do whatever it takes to dishonestly win.
After all winning is everything right?
No you could keep losing. Just like they want you to. Be all deflated because you feel elections are rigged so why even bother.
They say they don't cheat. They say there's no reason to even look into it. I say they are good at organizing and the voting system. So to get the opposition excited I'm saying steal there good ideas and run with it.
You want to win right?
You think it's going to be any different with DeSantis? It won't. Not until the other things I've discussed are addressed.
Yes! We know how they cheat, and we know that they cheat. We also know no one is going to do anything about it. So I agree with you, let's cheat like they do and since no one will check whoever cheats the most and the best wins!
I agree.
Ballot harvesting is necessary, everything the dems are doing. We need 5,000 mules. But DeSantis doesn't talk about how ugly some guys wife is, how ugly Carly Fiorino was. He turns off many a person but the main thing he does, is motivate lazy dems who don't vote, get up and go vote. DeSantis 6 week abortion bill hurt him for sure. Women vote for abortion, it's what really hurt the midterms.
I didn't say cheat. I said do what they doing. They are good at this election stuff. Republicans could learn a lot.
They either cheat or they don't. You say "don't cheat" but you then turn around and say "do what they do". I'm confused.
THEY CHEAT....no question about it. So are you still saying "do what they do" only do it better?
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Democrats say ugly **** all the time. Nobody cares. This is beyond a silly argument. It's selective outrage.
How's being sensitive about those mean tweets working out for everyone now? Of course he says mean ****. Look at what have done to him. Honestly he's pretty tame. I would have made them cry.
@Gunny46 ...Leftists allow illegals into this country, give them driver's licenses and EBT cards, and then register them to vote in Democrat primaries. No one enforces that illegal activity. Should Republicans start allowing their own illegals into the country, give them driver's licenses and EBT cards, and register even more of them to vote in Republican primaries?
Do what the Left does right?
Do what the Left does right?
We can just disagree on his rhetoric. He did the same thing in office. Let somebody else respond. This isn't the apprentice
They either cheat or they don't. You say "don't cheat" but you then turn around and say "do what they do". I'm confused.
THEY CHEAT....no question about it. So are you still saying "do what they do too" only do it better?
I don't see any of them going to jail. Obviously they are just better at elections than Republicans. Better organized and care more. Republicans should learn from them or STFU.
Ok they can keep kicking Republicans teeth out and they just take it. That will keep all the knee doctors in business.
Gunny should Republicans stop fighting this, and join the Democrats pushing for it?
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Ranked-choice voting reveals the candidate with the most support across the entire electorate, not just the most passionate base.
Once there's more than two candidates in a typical "most votes wins" election, it's very easy for the "winner" to have a weak plurality of support. It's entirely possible that the winning candidate only commands 38% of the vote when a majority of the electorate would have preferred someone else (not a contrived example).
Ranked-choice voting allows the will of the majority to emerge.
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Ranked-choice voting reveals the candidate with the most support across the entire electorate, not just the most passionate base.
Once there's more than two candidates in a typical "most votes wins" election, it's very easy for the "winner" to have a weak plurality of support. It's entirely possible that the winning candidate only commands 38% of the vote when a majority of the electorate would have preferred someone else (not a contrived example).
Ranked-choice voting allows the will of the majority to emerge.
Some analysis
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- Ranked choice voting is a scheme to disconnect elections from issues and allow candidates with marginal support from voters to win.
- It obscures true debates and issue-driven dialogs among candidates and eliminates genuine binary choices between two top-tier candidates.
- It also disenfranchises voters, because ballots that do not include the two ultimate finalists are cast aside to manufacture a faux majority for the winner.
Sounds to me like you're saying cheat better than they do? No Republicans would go to jail either correct?
No I'm saying people shouldn't stay home and pout. If your opponent keeps beating you then maybe look at what they are doing and learn from it.
I don't support RCV. However if that's the system you're currently operating in you better master it.
Why aren't you answering me @Gunny46 ? I've given you two examples of what the Left is doing and doing well. Allowing illegals into the country and registering them to vote, and pushing for absurd ranked choice voting results.
You said Republicans should do what they're doing correct? So we should be allowing even more illegals into the country but registering them for our side, and we should be demanding ranked choice voting in all 50 States correct?
I'm just using your arguments on two strategic fronts the Left has opened up in this voting war. Does your advice to copy them still apply with these two examples?
You said Republicans should do what they're doing correct? So we should be allowing even more illegals into the country but registering them for our side, and we should be demanding ranked choice voting in all 50 States correct?
I'm just using your arguments on two strategic fronts the Left has opened up in this voting war. Does your advice to copy them still apply with these two examples?
Who on our side is talking about "staying home"? We are registering record numbers of voters LEGALLY... we're organizing poll watch groups...demanding voter integrity, insisting on updated registration rolls, reducing the number of "absentee ballots" to only to those who can verify they are unable to vote in their home districts, demanding voter I.D., and in some cases requiring paper ballot back ups to electronic votes cast! Democrats are fighting each and every one of those common sense reforms. Should we stop, and just join them in the opposite of those?
More absentee ballots, no poll watchers, no voter I.D. requirements, leave the voting registration rolls alone, & switch to all electronic voting...by phone even? (Yes some Democrats want to vote by phone)
In short, we should make it as easy as possible to cheat & vote! Who cares, no one will check or notice right?
You can't argue "do what they do" and then oppose RCV. You're not being intellectually honest. Either we support it, or oppose it. If we need to be just like them, why vote against them?
Who on our side is talking about "staying home"? We are registering record numbers of voters LEGALLY... we're organizing poll watch groups...demanding voter integrity, insisting on updated registration rolls, reducing the number of "absentee ballots" to only to those who can verify they are unable to vote in their home districts, demanding voter I.D., and in some cases requiring paper ballot back ups to electronic votes cast! Democrats are fighting each and every one of those common sense reforms. Should we stop, and just join them in the opposite of those?
More absentee ballots, no poll watchers, no voter I.D. requirements, leave the voting registration rolls alone, & switch to all electronic voting...by phone even? (Yes some Democrats want to vote by phone)
In short, we should make it as easy as possible to cheat & vote! Who cares, no one will check or notice right?
Republicans are not doing near enough of that. It's going to be the same results if they don't up their game even more.
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