'25 (in-season) - '26 CFB Portal Thread

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BobPSU92

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In all fairness Campbell’s depleted roster was self-inflicted unlike the depleted roster Franklin inherited due to the unjust sanctions. His first 2 seasons were the two worst years of the four year sanctions and he won a Big Ten Championship in his third season for those of you who forgot. I think it was time for Franklin to go and like Campbell but given that Campbell has all this NIL money to spend; the other facilities improvements which (blasphemy) Franklin fought for and Kraft proclaiming that the standard at Penn State is winning Big and National Championships when he fired Franklin because the fans deserve a National Championship winning at least a Big Ten Championship by 2028 should be the minimum expectation not? What did I juxtapose here Big Guy?

Funny Cignetti was impressed enough with Grunk that he said after the Indiana game that it looks like Penn State found its QB of the future but what the hell does he know about identifying QB talent? Claiming that losing Grunk is not bad news is unbelievably stupid.

As if ciggie knows more than we do.
 
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94LionsFan

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We can easily survive losing Grunk. He is ranked what #19 in QBs in the portal. He didn't fit the Campbell system and Campbell was not overly impressed with his skill set versus the trust and fit with Becht. Not a huge surprise and certainly not bad news.
You stated the bold like facts. Has there been any reporting or “insider” info to this effect? Campbell recruited him, so I doubt “he didn’t fit the Campbell system.” Doesn’t know the Campbell system, sure…
 

Omar81

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In all fairness Campbell’s depleted roster was self-inflicted unlike the depleted roster Franklin inherited due to the unjust sanctions. His first 2 seasons were the two worst years of the four year sanctions and he won a Big Ten Championship in his third season for those of you who forgot. I think it was time for Franklin to go and like Campbell but given that Campbell has all this NIL money to spend; the other facilities improvements which (blasphemy) Franklin fought for and Kraft proclaiming that the standard at Penn State is winning Big and National Championships when he fired Franklin because the fans deserve a National Championship winning at least a Big Ten Championship by 2028 should be the minimum expectation not? What did I juxtapose here Big Guy?

Funny Cignetti was impressed enough with Grunk that he said after the Indiana game that it looks like Penn State found its QB of the future but what the hell does he know about identifying QB talent? Claiming that losing Grunk is not bad news is unbelievably stupid.
Well, first of all I was responding to Ludd, not to you.
Second, you did in fact juxtapose two unrelated topics, as they pertain to my prior post, as well as make a material misstatement.
The misstatement: How in the world was Campbell’s depleted roster “self-inflicted” (i.e., inflicted by Campbell)? Did he fire Franklin early in the season (leading in large part to the mass exodus of 2025 PSU roster players) and fail to hire himself until the LOI day had passed (leading to the departure of all but two members of the 2026 high school recruiting class)? The answers, of course, are no and no.
The juxtaposition: What in the world does what Franklin inherited upon his arrival at PSU have to do with what Campbell is doing, which is attempting to backfill the aforementioned depleted roster? Answer: Nothing. Campbell is doing exactly what he should be doing, in starting with bringing in those ISU players he knows very well, while seeking out the players he wants from other schools to fill remaining needs within the confines of the NIL budget allotted to him.
Bonus juxtaposition: In addition to wrongfully blaming Campbell for the roster depletion, you’ve doubled down by also (wrongfully) blaming him for Kraft‘s statements during the coaching search process and whatever “minimum expectation” that created in your own mind.
Other than the above (which is to say, other than the entirety of your post), you were spot on there, “Big Guy.”
 

Omar81

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A depleted roster is pretty irrelevant in today's professional era of absolute & unlimited Free Agency with 4500 Free Agents in the Marketplace as demonstrated by this year's Playoff where team after team's starting roster had a large proportion of Free Agents.
So the coaching search dragged on beyond NIL day, leaving PSU with only two 2026 high school signees and the lowest ranked recruiting class in the country. In addition, PSU lost more players from its 2025 roster than any other school, including as was widely pointed out more than the other P4 schools that had also fired their head coach. These two factors combined had people claiming that the PSU football program had been set back 5-10 years. In your view, though, that’s “pretty irrelevant” because playoff teams have a large proportion of portal additions. Okay, I disagree completely but you’re entitled to your opinion.👍🏼
 

BobPSU92

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So the coaching search dragged on beyond NIL day, leaving PSU with only two 2026 high school signees and the lowest ranked recruiting class in the country. In addition, PSU lost more players from its 2025 roster than any other school, including as was widely pointed out more than the other P4 schools that had also fired their head coach. These two factors combined had people claiming that the PSU football program had been set back 5-10 years. In your view, though, that’s “pretty irrelevant” because playoff teams have a large proportion of portal additions. Okay, I disagree completely but you’re entitled to your opinion.👍🏼

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lemonears

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4000+ are in the portal. Penn State did not "lose" players. They left because they have more comfort with the old staff, wanted more money, or they were not valued like they valued themselves. There is nothing "lowly" about the ISU players. All of them ranked in the high 80s and are ball players. They may very well go 8 and 4, which is high for me in year one, but this team will be tough as nails. Penn State has been soft for years and getting softer,

The program needed a hard reset, from the top to the bottom. To fast track the transition bringing in a nucleus of players that now the culture and the system and buy in.
Hope you are right. I have good feelings about Campbell. He seems to have a personality a bit like Paterno.
 
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6’3”, 355 lbs. 😳
Can anyone say Offensive Guard.

As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m perfectly happy loading up on Pacific Islanders for the interior of both lines. They are a large-bodied folk who enjoy contact sports like rugby and football
 
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So the coaching search dragged on beyond NIL day, leaving PSU with only two 2026 high school signees and the lowest ranked recruiting class in the country. In addition, PSU lost more players from its 2025 roster than any other school, including as was widely pointed out more than the other P4 schools that had also fired their head coach. These two factors combined had people claiming that the PSU football program had been set back 5-10 years. In your view, though, that’s “pretty irrelevant” because playoff teams have a large proportion of portal additions. Okay, I disagree completely but you’re entitled to your opinion.👍🏼

Indiana's performance over the last two years is a case-study in how full of crap you and the other "message board posters" are in your OPINIONS. Indiana is factual evidence as to how absurd your claim is that PSU's roster has been set back 5-10 years in the current environment of absolute & unlimited Free Agency in today's Pro Minor-League Football with Universities' names attached to jerseys. LMAO at how utterly moronic your claims are.

BTW, TT was 7-6 and 8-5 in 2023 and 2024 and nowhere remotely close to a B12 Championship, let alone the Playoffs, but completely changed their fortunes on a dime this year via the Free Agent market - you're utterly full of crap that hs recruiting is more relevant to success than the Free Agency Market - hs recruiting has become almost irrelevant to immediate success relative to the Free Agency Market.
 
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Alphalion75

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Naturally, the college football story of the year is the rise of Indiana football to the brink of the National Championship. Win or lose, Cignetti has done an unbelievable job of turning the Hoosier program around in just 2 years. So let's examine how he did it simply from a roster perspective in contrast to what Coach Campbell is doing, broken down by transfers from previous school, transfer from other schools, high school recruits and players retained from the current roster. The following numbers are a little rough.

Cignetti retained 36 scholarship athletes from the previous year........As of today, including those who have not announced, Campbell has retained, scholarship and non scholarship, roughly 70. The large difference is probably due to mostly walk ons.
Cignetti brought 13 JMU players with him through the portal. Campbell has brought, so far, 19 players from ISU.
Cignetti brought another 17 transfers from other schools.....Campbell, so far, just 1.
Cignetti had 16 high school recruits sign in 2024, Campbell has 12 commitments.

Indiana ended up with roughly 82 scholarship athletes for the 2024 season.

Outside of the retained roster, the numbers are trending in the same direction. Campbell's work now is to transfer in elite portal athletes and retain as much of the current roster as possible based on need.
So let's rate the components. I believe we would all agree that the core Penn State retained roster is higher quality than Indiana's. I believe we would also all agree that the best of the ISU roster is higher quality than the best of the JMU roster. Now, I'm not advocating that Campbell will pull off the 'miracle' that Cignetti has done at Indiana. However, I do believe Campbell has much more to work with than Cignetti did. With that being said, it remains to be seen how well Campbell does with bringing in transfers from other schools. As always, the results on the field will determine the success of this transition.
 

Omar81

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Indiana's performance over the last two years is a case-study in how full of crap you and the other "message board posters" are in your OPINIONS. Indiana is factual evidence as to how absurd your claim is that PSU's roster has been set back 5-10 years in the current environment of absolute & unlimited Free Agency in today's Pro Minor-League Football with Universities' names attached to jerseys. LMAO at how utterly moronic your claims are.

BTW, TT was 7-6 and 8-5 in 2023 and 2024 and nowhere remotely close to a B12 Championship, let alone the Playoffs, but completely changed their fortunes on a dime this year via the Free Agent market - you're utterly full of crap that hs recruiting is more relevant to success than the Free Agency Market - hs recruiting has become almost irrelevant to immediate success relative to the Free Agency Market.
I did not claim that PSU’s roster had been set back 5-10 years, as anyone with a fifth grade reading level or IQ above 80 can readily see. You can “LMAO” to your heart’s content about claims I never made — including your false assertion that I EVER said ”hs recruiting is more relevant to success than the ‘Free Agency Market.’“ Is it fun for you to pretend people said things so that you can argue with those pretend statements?
Feel free to reply. You have joined the ignore list because you’re too stupid and antagonistic for me to waste my time on. I’ve seen how you act towards others in post after post so I guess I only have myself to blame for engaging with you in the first place . . .
 
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But not impressed enough to get him to Bloomington.
He doesn't really fit the Indiana model. Indiana has used the portal to get older, physically mature players. It's similar to what has led to NCAA basketball success. 22-23 year-olds vs. 18-19 year olds.
 
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I don't know how it will play out on the field, but I like the approach Campbell and staff seem to have taken. He got a combination of experience and potential from the guys he knew from Iowa State, mostly offense oriented. In the last day, he has picked up DT and DE from elsewhere. I look forward to see how continues to attack the portal and how he balances the roster.
 
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I did not claim that PSU’s roster had been set back 5-10 years, as anyone with a fifth grade reading level or IQ above 80 can readily see. You can “LMAO” to your heart’s content about claims I never made — including your false assertion that I EVER said ”hs recruiting is more relevant to success than the ‘Free Agency Market.’“ Is it fun for you to pretend people said things so that you can argue with those pretend statements?
Feel free to reply. You have joined the ignore list because you’re too stupid and antagonistic for me to waste my time on. I’ve seen how you act towards others in post after post so I guess I only have myself to blame for engaging with you in the first place . . .

You're not going to grace us with your moronic posing-troll responses - oh, if it were only true.
 

lemonears

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Naturally, the college football story of the year is the rise of Indiana football to the brink of the National Championship. Win or lose, Cignetti has done an unbelievable job of turning the Hoosier program around in just 2 years. So let's examine how he did it simply from a roster perspective in contrast to what Coach Campbell is doing, broken down by transfers from previous school, transfer from other schools, high school recruits and players retained from the current roster. The following numbers are a little rough.

Cignetti retained 36 scholarship athletes from the previous year........As of today, including those who have not announced, Campbell has retained, scholarship and non scholarship, roughly 70. The large difference is probably due to mostly walk ons.
Cignetti brought 13 JMU players with him through the portal. Campbell has brought, so far, 19 players from ISU.
Cignetti brought another 17 transfers from other schools.....Campbell, so far, just 1.
Cignetti had 16 high school recruits sign in 2024, Campbell has 12 commitments.

Indiana ended up with roughly 82 scholarship athletes for the 2024 season.

Outside of the retained roster, the numbers are trending in the same direction. Campbell's work now is to transfer in elite portal athletes and retain as much of the current roster as possible based on need.
So let's rate the components. I believe we would all agree that the core Penn State retained roster is higher quality than Indiana's. I believe we would also all agree that the best of the ISU roster is higher quality than the best of the JMU roster. Now, I'm not advocating that Campbell will pull off the 'miracle' that Cignetti has done at Indiana. However, I do believe Campbell has much more to work with than Cignetti did. With that being said, it remains to be seen how well Campbell does with bringing in transfers from other schools. As always, the results on the field will determine the success of this transition.
Cignetti had access to Mark Cuban's unlimited checkbook. Campbell had limited money. The Indiana success story has as much to do with Mark Cuban as it does with Cignetti.
 

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Cignetti had access to Mark Cuban's unlimited checkbook. Campbell had limited money. The Indiana success story has as much to do with Mark Cuban as it does with Cignetti.
Uh.... no
Not even close to close.

Even his 2025 portal class (after he had shown what he could do in 2024):
Aside from Mendoza - who was relatively highly regarded, but still not at the top of the QB Wish Lists - his portal class was a bunch of relative unknowns - none near the top of any rankings boards, and not the guys demanding and getting the big $. (You can look it up)

What he did was identify those folks that were overlooked by others (with incredible success), bringing in the parts and pieces he needed, doing a masterful job of finding the right guy for the right job, developing and coaching them with precision and intent (and with the help of what appears to be a very capable staff he assembled), and running that program like a machine.

That is what he did.
And no one else - to date - has come anywhere close to replicating it..... even those spending much much more $ on every aspect of their programs.
 
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Grant Green

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Cignetti had access to Mark Cuban's unlimited checkbook. Campbell had limited money. The Indiana success story has as much to do with Mark Cuban as it does with Cignetti.
Unlimited checkbook? There is no record of how much money Cuban has given to IU athletics and I highly doubt it is "unlimited". I'm pretty sure IU has spent a lot less than other top 10 type programs in the past few years. Cignetti couldn't have been this successful without ample funding, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think he is by far the main reason for their success.
 
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I did not claim that PSU’s roster had been set back 5-10 years, as anyone with a fifth grade reading level or IQ above 80 can readily see. You can “LMAO” to your heart’s content about claims I never made — including your false assertion that I EVER said ”hs recruiting is more relevant to success than the ‘Free Agency Market.’“ Is it fun for you to pretend people said things so that you can argue with those pretend statements?
Feel free to reply. You have joined the ignore list because you’re too stupid and antagonistic for me to waste my time on. I’ve seen how you act towards others in post after post so I guess I only have myself to blame for engaging with you in the first place . . .
don't swing at the pitch in the dirt :)
 

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Love this:

“I want him to go be a leader of a business or a corporation, but you just look at him, you’d say he’ll be a lifetime bouncer at the doorway of a bar,” said Oklahoma State interim head coach Doug Meacham back in November. “He’s a scary dude now. He comes in there, he’s yoked up. I wouldn’t want any piece of that guy.”
 

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Sooo…how I’m looking at this is that the Iowa State transfers are taking a bite out of the losses from the recruiting commitments who jumped ship, while also picking up some added commitments plus probably more coming. I also wonder how many portal losses would have left if there were no coaching changes? Admittedly a big unknown. Personally I will wait until the dust settles before assessing how the roster looks and my expectations for next year’s record. It’s a jungle out there!
 
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Unlimited checkbook? There is no record of how much money Cuban has given to IU athletics and I highly doubt it is "unlimited". I'm pretty sure IU has spent a lot less than other top 10 type programs in the past few years. Cignetti couldn't have been this successful without ample funding, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think he is by far the main reason for their success.

It's quite doubtful that Cuban is bankrolling Indiana's football payroll (which would require this type of outlay in perpetuity) because there is no return on these massive outlays - and again, they would have to be made in perpetuity. Silly imo that anybody would do this - to what end precisely. These athletes do not represent his "alma mater" - they're professional athletes competing in a silly Minor-League NFL with Universities names written on their uniforms.
 
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pendal1

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Sooo…how I’m looking at this is that the Iowa State transfers are taking a bite out of the losses from the recruiting commitments who jumped ship, while also picking up some added commitments plus probably more coming. I also wonder how many portal losses would have left if there were no coaching changes? Admittedly a big unknown. Personally I will wait until the dust settles before assessing how the roster looks and my expectations for next year’s record. It’s a jungle out there!
You nailed it. We lost an entire recruiting class so we need replacements. We need the bodies but the positive part is many of these guys are older guys and they've played and are solid. Hey, Iowa State was 11-3 and 8-4 the past two years. That's better than us.
 
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